Confedferate Soldxiers are American Veterans by law.

What the cultural-marxist revisionist don't teach you in school today that all Confederate soldiers, sailors and Marines are American war veterans.

Those who attack their Confederate battle flag are attacking all American military veterans. The Confederate battle flag is part of America's heritage.

Those low lives who have defaced the graves of of Confederate war veterans or have removed the Confederate battle flags from their graves or their burial grounds should be tarred and feathered and sent to a federal prison for 25 years.

 

I agree that defacing ANY grave or cenotaph is a despicable thing to do, and we should respect the heroism of any American who died for a cause he believed in.

That being said there were lots of people who said your second penalty is what should have happened to all the Confederate soldiers after the ACW, or their leaders at the very least.

Let's just call it even, and not permit either thing to ever happen again.

 

the flag had no place on the state house lawn

now if someone disrespects a burial by defecating on it or whatever, I do not care what the person has done, that should be a crime

so the vandalism that is not part of an actual grave, should that be considered part of history and preserved?

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In California when I see Gov. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown signing some bill in to law usually another nanny state law taking away personal freedoms you usually see three flags being displayed, the American flag in the center, the California state flag to it's left and to the right the Mexican flag. I find that offensive and the liberal / progressives label me a racist.

Confederate soldiers, sailors and Confederate Marines under the law are American military veterans equal to the Union "Civil War" military veterans.

That would make the Confederate battle flag a legitimate American military battle flag.

The radical left demanded that the Confederate battle flag be removed from state grounds but they wanted more. The Confederate battle flag just wasn't lowered at National Military Civil War cemeteries but also removed from any place on federal/military grounds where Confederate soldiers are buried including Gettysburg National Military Park !!!

Now that's offensive and disrespectful to all American military veterans.

Remember when we were told that a Confederate battle flag killed nine black Americans in Charleston, South Carolina ? Then some ******** decided to go on federal property, a military cemetery and removed the small Confederate battle flags that was on each of the Americans graves who were Confederate soldiers and no prosecution by the Obama's DOJ but instead he was treated as a hero of the radical anti-American left.

Didn't stop there, Confederate Civil War monuments were desecrated, the demanding of changing of the names of schools anything to further cultural-marxist agenda of rewriting American history to further their radical political agenda.

 

Not in my book. They chose to take up arms against America. They are Secessionist Veterans.

 

Only after being invaded from the North.

Before 1861 Americans held their loyalty to their states not the federal government. The states were only united in the common defense of all of the individual states, the union, the United States of America.

Look at both the Confederate army and the Union Army, all made up of state's militias and volunteers. Technically there was no CSA Army just state armies.
The Union army mostly made up of state militias and volunteers that were usually commanded by regular U.S. Army commissioned officers.

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That is outright false. The Confederacy, like the North, had an involuntary draft. Most Confederate soldiers - as most Northern soldiers - were FORCED into military service. Desertion was punishable by death, though huge numbers of Confederate soldiers did desert, as did many Union soldiers.

Your claim is false, but is a lie most people believe.

 

Your message is also false. Both the North and South imposed an involuntary draft forcing men into the military.

It is curious how slogans cause people to make up facts to support those slogans - so much so that everyone just accepts the assertion as true.

One lesson of the Civil War is people should NEVER answer the call of their governor that calls up the National Guard. It is not just that you might get killed, but that later the Country and people might declare you were evil for answering that call and that your even having existing should be erased from the history books.

How much longer before the Vietnam war is erased and the black POW flags banned by government since those POWs, including those drafted, were evil men and their existence itself should be erased from the history books and any government acknowledgement?

While the German and Japanese government condemns their country's actions in WWII, they still honor their soldiers that fought - whether volunteers or drafted. Trashing our own soldiers has become a national past time representing the enlightenment of the left.

 

Shouldn't the state flag be banned too? It was the state government, not the troops, that declared independence from the USA.

Explain why you curse the troops (ie battle flag) - but not the actual government that caused this? You are another government worshipper, but soldiers of the government doing what the government orders them to do are the evil ones?

 

Your "book" don't count.
Even Grant didn't want men like Lee arrested after the war.

 

My mistake, I should have posted >" Look at both the Confederate army and the Union Army, almost all made up of state's militias and volunteers."<

I haven't forgotten the conscripts. But unlike the Union conscripts who only served a short time in uniform, the Confederate conscripts were in it until the end, so I have read.

Did you know that the first U.S. Army divisions that were sent to the Pacific theatre of war during WW ll in 1942 were National Guard units that were federalized.

 

the state flag was not used for hate the way the Confederate flag was and still is to this day



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the Mexican flag has no place on the state house grounds either..... the confederate flags have no place on government property other then a Museum....

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Roof has the flag on it's own left, that's improper flag etiquette.

There are also photos of Roof wearing a "Golds Gym" t-shirt burning the American flag and also displaying the Confederate battle flag. Why haven't the progressives and their minions labeled Golds Gym as a racist gym? liberal PC double standers ???

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/20/us/charleston-shooting-website/

 

simple, the gold gym t-shirt did not have a history of hate and racism..... common sense

 

It does today.

 

As of April of this year, we are still paying one civil war pension http://www.va.gov/opa/publications/factsheets/fs_americas_wars.pdf

 

Thanks for the link Deckel.
The last Civil War vet died in 1958.

There's still one child of a Civil War vet receiving a pension, interesting.

 

A physical impossibility. How can federal troops invade federal states?

 

From what I've read, confederate conscripts were originally in it until the end of their original enlistment periods. When thousands and thousands were about to head home, word came down that their enlistment periods had been extended for the duration, not by the governors but by the 'confederate' army, the equivalent of the federal army, with its commander in chief, Jeff Davis. Moreover, the only people given exemptions were those who owned 20 or more slaves. Confederate soldiers avoided military service by immediately going out and buying all the slaves the could afford.

 

Yep I went exploring after I recall seeing a discussion about people alive today who had met people born into slavery and was curious if there were any pensioners still about.

 

So why aren't the Axis military members American war veterans as well?

SEC. 410. The Administrator shall pay to each person who served
in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America
during the Civil Wa r a monthly pension in the same amounts and
subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such ​

This strikes me as problematic in light of 14A §4:

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.​

Not sure what the basis for this claim is, but the provisions in the Constitution as originally ratified which subjected state officials to a constitutional oath and state militias to federalization in the case of invasion or insurrection would seem to militate against it.

 

Probably because none of the Axis soldiers were American citizens.

 

KKK and Fox network revisionism would have people become sympathetic to the rebel cause. But every logical thinking American who is patriotic knows that the rebs were guilty of treason. They were lucky that Lincoln gave them amnesty.

Had I been prez I would have put them all on trial for treason and made full use of the hanging tree because those traitors led to the death of 600,000+ Americans.

 

I'm having problems with finding the U.S. Code for "Treason" that was on the books in 1861.

Looks like another trip down to a research library.

 

check Article III of the Constitution