Palestinains will lose 2% of the west bank every year. after 50 years they will have nothing left and it will be their own fault for refusing to accept reality. They could have had all of the west bank in 67 but they wanted everything. Soon they will have nothing and they can pump their stupid little fists in the air shouting allahu akbaar in an overcrowded tenement in Gaza and tell us how they will beat the Israelis. They have their chance and they wont take it...(*)(*)(*)(*) 'em
We will not have to wait until 2055 Jordan will become Palestine.. and the Bedouins will return to their true land
Jordan renounced all claims to West Bank in 1988. The Arabs residing here in West Bank are here to stay and won't go. The outcome of the conflict will be two states likely in confederation with each other, probably something along one home land two state initiative(private initiative between Israelis and Palestinians). https://www.facebook.com/notes/711885432271832/
What on earth makes you think that Israeis would ever vote to be in confederation? If the Stupid Palestinians wont come to an agreement then they are (*)(*)(*)(*)ed
Its the fault of thieving jews and israel that Palestine is losing 2% a year. They are the extremist who racially oppress arabs. To blame the victims of racial oppressing is like blaming a woman for being raped.
Dream on... This is the Land of the Jews. There are 11 Million S. Americans in the USA... Would you think America will concede to give them Oklahoma? No way Jose!
Baloney... a) there is no such a thing as Palestinian. b) the fact is just the reverse, the Arabs are oppressing Jews. c) nice analogy of rape... a woman cannot prove rape in an Arab country without FOUR male Arab witnesses.
Abbas tried to negotiate peace with the Israelis accepting most of Olmert's terms in 2008 with both sides admitting they were months away but ran out of time to solve the remaining differences like Abbas accepting Israeli annexation of all the settlement blocs except Ariel(which sits on fertile land reserves). Bibi since 2009 has refused to go back to these terms. In last years negotiations Abbas accepted border outline prepared by the Americans that let 80 percent of the settlers stay in the West Bank, Bibi didn't respond to border outline and refused to agree to any changes regarding Israeli control over the West Bank. Israel does have the power to already go close to what the final borders be and would be the only to make Israel a truly Jewish and democratic by withdrawing to fence and Jordan valley(along with operation defense shield style operation to dismantle tanzim, aqsa martyr brigade and Hamas in West Bank dismantling most of the extremists on both sides). http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/magazine/13Israel-t.html http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4515821,00.html http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-envoy-to-resign-after-blaming-settlements-for-talks-failure/
Oklahoma is universally recognized as part of United States. West Bank is not recognized as part of Israel. Oklahoma's residents are citizens. Arabs residing in West Bank don't have citizenship. There is nothing in international law that says West Bank exclusively belongs to Jews or even that Israel exclusively belongs to Jews. After Israel declared its independence and won its independence it was recognized by the world becoming part of United Nations making area covering Israel's borders after independence exclusively belonging to state of Israel(a state that describes itself as a Jewish state and home with most of its citizens Jewish but also democratic state with it's non Jewish minorities equal under the law). Both Israel's and Jordan's control of West Bank before has not been recognized by the world with only Pakistan and United Kingdom recognizing Jordan's annexation of West Bank in 1950 and no countries recognizing Israel's annexations of East Jerusalem and Golan Heights after 67 war. The only legal way for Israel to annex entire West Bank would be if Arabs residing in West Bank and Israel both agreed for Israel to annex entire West Bank. However both sides would not agree on(most Arabs residing in West Bank probably would support it) it as correctly the Israelis don't want a binational state making the Joint List overnight the largest party in Israel.
So according to you Tibet doesn't really belong to China; the Western Sahara doezsn't really belong to Morocco; the Western part of Poland doesn't really belong to Poland; Kashmir doesn't really belong to India, Pakistan and China; etc. ?
Tibet doesn't belong to China. It invaded and annexed China in 1950. Western Sahara doesn't belong to be Moroccan as other than some African governments and Arab leagues is not recognized as Moroccan by any country in the world. Why wouldn't the western part of Poland belong to Poland? All of Poland is recognized as sovereign Polish territory just like all of United States including obviously Oklahoma. It's disputed that Kashmir is part of India(some of it is occupied by Pakistani troops) due to Kashmir at time expected to be part of Pakistan due to population being majority Muslim, the Hindu prince of Kashmir didn't join either Pakistan or India, spurred on reports of attacks against Muslims in Kashimr(during time of partition attacks against Hindus and Muslims was common) Pakistani irregulars invaded Kashimir with Kashmir prince responded by asking for help form India, India responded by capturing most of Kashmir. Agreement ending fighting between Pakistan and India promised a referendum for Kashimir's residents to determine if they want to be part of India, with referendum never fulfilled. Again like in case with Tibet(although in Tibet's case China is in the wrong a lot more) the rest of India is indisputable sovereign Indian territory. Kuril islands belong to Japan as again all of the world(except for Russia) recognizes it as Japanese territory. The falkland islands belong to Britain not Argentina(they had a war over this in 1982 which Britain won) with most countries in the world recognizing it as British territory. Crimea doesn't belong to Russia since Russia invaded Crimea which is Ukrainian territory and annexed it; an annexation most countries don't recognize Russia's annexation of Ukraine. Again Oklahoma comparison is completely baseless. No one says that Oklahoma isn't part of United States with its residents American citizens. Oklahoma is as much of United States as Tel Aviv(where all the embassies are too) is of the state of Israel with most countries in the world recognizing that and nothing will change that. In contrast, the fact is that the world including Israel's allies doesn't recognize West Bank as Israeli territory. If it was Israeli territory than the world would have recognized East Jerusalem and Golan Heights annexations. If it was Israeli territory than the world including Israel's allies both United States and E.U. wouldn't recognize settlements in West Bank as illegal. Until most of the world especially democratic countries like United States and countries that compose the E.U. recognizes West Bank as Israeli territory, the West Bank is not Israeli territory. If it was Israeli territory too all the residents of West Bank would have Israeli citizenship and be under Israeli civil law which again will never happen as Israelis don't want to commit suicide and undue the hard work Israel's founders did to achieve Herzl's vision of a Jewish state.
If the Arabs had accepted reality in 1948,56,67, and 73 there would now be no more issue but they keep attacking Israel and keep losing land. The burned the British flag last week so £uck em £uck em all
The only 'chance' they had was to bow to Israeli conditions-including not being able to have a military for self defense. The Palestinians would gain nothing. - - - Updated - - - No it is not. 25% of Israel's population is non-Jewish. Palestine's time is coming and you can do nothing about it.
How exactly are the Arabs oppressing Jews with your massive military and nuclear weapons? Quit playing the victim; the constant whining is embarrassing.
Self defense? You mean to attack Israel the moment that peace was signed as they always do? (*)(*)(*)(*) it the Palestinians have been constantly losing for 65years and they still insist its all theirs, £uck em. They burned my flag and they can all go £uck themselves.
Some time very powerful countries get inundated by perfidious statements... in the case of Israel, stone throwing on main highways, attacks on young Jewish maiden on the beaches, destroy or undermine whatever they are given to produce at work, harass young religious Jews in the streets of Jerusalem, stab elderly Jewish people, try to stab soldiers and getting killed in the process etc... I could write some more... but anyone could understand that except some revengeful, argumentative UK youngsters... living in quasi British Paradise.
I am surprised at someone who writes English so well. We are not and will not try to force anyone to believe that Israel is the 'Land of the Jews from time immemorial... The Golan/Bashan is Jewish, Judea and Samaria/Shomron is Jewish, part of Jordan is also Jewish soooo the Land of the Jews has been recognized by <Billions and Billions of Bibles> bought or distributed. and your fallacious statement that Oklahoma is recognized as part of the US just to deny recognition of Jews to their 'ancestral patrimony', is akin there was no Jewish Temple in Jerusalem (Arabs) and the Holocaust never happened (Iran).
"The Golan/Bashan is Jewish, Judea and Samaria/Shomron is Jewish, part of Jordan is also Jewish soooo the Land of the Jews has been recognized by <Billions and Billions of Bibles> bought or distributed." Golan Heights, Judea and Samaria, and part of Jordan were part of the ancient Jewish kingdoms. However we aren't talking about the ancient kingdoms. We are talking about the state of Israel and the fact is West Bank did not become part of state of Israel after they declared and fought for their independence(with David Ben Gurion wisely denying demand by some Palmach commanders to take West Bank knowing the threat it would pose annexing West Bank. Just because ancestors of most Israeli Jews lived there thousands of years ago doesn't mean automatically it's Jewish territory. By your logic Russia is right for annexing Crimea since they used to rule it as part of Russian empire, by your logic Iran is right for ruling Iraq and Lebanon as proxies since they ruled it in ancient times as part of the Persian empire. That is not how international law works. International law is not based on the bible either. Bible also says stuff like adultery is punishable by stoning to death, those who curse their parents killed, those who are homosexual killed. " and your fallacious statement that Oklahoma is recognized as part of the US just to deny recognition of Jews to their 'ancestral patrimony', is akin there was no Jewish Temple in Jerusalem (Arabs) and the Holocaust never happened (Iran). " Do you always resort to slander when someone disagrees with you? I never said there was no Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Nor did I ever say the holocaust didn't happen. I was just pointing out how invalid your Oklahoma comparison is. The fact is Oklahoma is universally recognized as part of United States. It's residents are citizens too. West Bank is not recognized as part of Israel with no countries recognizing East Jerusalem and Golan Height annexations with embassies in Tel Aviv. E.U. and United States along with most of the world and most legal experts view settlements as illegal. This is the stance of Israel's allies like United States(including past administrations) and E.U. not Iran who has opposite policy of those countries. Again the fact is unless United States and E.U. along with other countries recognized West Bank as Israeli territory(for example recognized East Jerusalem annexation and the settlements) and/or Israel and most of the Arabs residing in West Bank agreed to Israeli annexation of West Bank it will never be Israeli territory(except for settlement blocs).
I am not slandering anyone here, but just putting my point across... A country that lost its citizen would would wither away and die... Israel on the other hand, has the right to return home for it is a vibrant community searching its sources in history and archaeology, and no 'squatter' come lately is going to change that nor would he be able to play a fast one on the naive people. We are the Jews of that 'Land', it is calling us and we are ready to oblige for this is the 'Patrimony of the Jews' notwithstanding what the opponents think or do.
That's what their "leaders" and "supporters" have been telling them for almost 70 years. Look where it has got them.
Not accepting a ridiculous "offer" does not justify a bunch of religious extremists to go ethnic cleansing. That's like saying, oh you don't want to go on something like a date with me? Than I guess I go rape you just ones a week. While there is nothing wrong with attacking those who rape you / attack those who vote in the rapists.
I guess you're cussing at me (in other words) that I'm something like a nazi that supports a new Halocoast, just because I oppose people being ethnic cleansed.
