The evidence is conclusive when the idea is to establish the facts lawfully. When the idea is to fabricate deceptive lies the evidence tends to confuse people instead of establishing facts lawfully. The original federal government was voluntary and it worked as a free market of governments because that was the way the works best for mutual defense against all enemies foreign and domestic. When the British were federated with the American people that voluntary federal association was ended once the British first ignored the right of people to defend themselves with words (redress of grievances) and then the voluntary federal association was ended when the British resorted to open, aggressive, violence upon innocent people in America. The American federation of former colonies then setup a federation of republics beginning with the forming of independent states, then the forming of The United States of America in Congress Assembled, a Declaration of Independence, which was a formal indictment of the former federally associated British, following up with a written Constitution. The members of The United States of America in Congress Assembled clarified the voluntary nature of free market government in the following words: Source: http://teachingamericanhistory.org/ratification/elliot/vol1/approaches/ "That, as to the people or Parliament of England, we had always been independent of them, their restraints on our trade deriving efficacy from our acquiescence only, and not from any rights they possessed of imposing them; and that, so far, our connection had been federal only, and was now dissolved by the commencement of hostilities: "That, as to the king, we had been bound to him by allegiance, but that this bond was now dissolved by his assent to the late act of Parliament, by which he declares us out of his protection, and by his levying war on us a fact which had long ago proved us out of his protection, it being a certain position in law, that allegiance and protection are reciprocal, the one ceasing when the other is withdrawn:" The second Constitution was a fraud from the start. The first Constitution was perpetual according to those who authorized the printing of the first Constitution. So you have before you an indictment, along the same lines as redress of grievances, along the same lines as the choice to solve conflict peacefully instead of violently, along the same lines as the Declaration of Independence, along the same lines as the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights which Amends the second, fraudulent, Constitution. I made the choice to put this effort here in this Conspiracy Theory topic so as to save the moderators the trouble of moving this topic from Current Events, or from some other topic, to this topic, as those who are apt to choose deception instead of accurate, honest, accounting, are those who often label, with false labels, such as "Conspiracy Theory," any evidence that uncovers the facts about American Empire, which is a false label itself, for the word Empire is just another label covering up the naked Emperors whose true label is criminal. One link, so far, and in the one link above are the words from the official federal record during the debate concerning the publishing of a Declaration of Independence, and in that debate the accurate account of the true meaning of federation was laid out in plain English. Those who voluntarily associate for their mutual defense do so (perpetually) until one PARTY decides to resort to criminal means, such as War of Aggression, such as the British perpetrated as the CAUSE of the requirement, the necessity, to form an American federation for mutual defense. A second link, in this effort, is now offered an a relevant quote concerning the effort (by some few people) to force (by deceit, knowable as fraud) out the voluntary federal association, which existed in the form of a perpetual federal union under an existing federal (meaning the federal constitution constitutes the federal part of the union) constitution, and to force into power a replacement which replaces the voluntary federal union with a criminal version. Source: http://archive.org/stream/secretproceedin00convgoog#page/n14/mode/2up Page 13 Luther Martin "One party, whose object and wish it was to abolish and annihilate all State governments, and to bring forward one general government, over this extensive continent, of monarchical nature, under certain restrictions and limitations. Those who openly avowed this sentiment were, it is true, but few; yet it is equally true, Sir, that there were a considerable number, who did not openly avow it, who were by myself, and many others of the convention, considered as being in reality favorers of that sentiment; and, acting upon those principles, covertly endeavoring to carry into effect what they well knew openly and avowedly could not be accomplished." Additional evidence: http://www.constitution.org/afp/pennmi00.htm "Whilst the gilded chains were forging in the secret conclave, the meaner instruments of despotism without, were busily employed in alarming the fears of the people with dangers which did not exist, and exciting their hopes of greater advantages from the expected plan than even the best government on earth could produce...." The game (false labels) explained: http://www.rightsofthepeople.com/fr...deralist_papers/anti_federalist_papers_03.php "There are but two modes by which men are connected in society, the one which operates on individuals, this always has been, and ought still to be called, national government; the other which binds States and governments together (not corporations, for there is no considerable nation on earth, despotic, monarchical, or republican, that does not contain many subordinate corporations with various constitutions) this last has heretofore been denominated a league or confederacy. The term federalists is therefore improperly applied to themselves, by the friends and supporters of the proposed constitution. This abuse of language does not help the cause; every degree of imposition serves only to irritate, but can never convince. They are national men, and their opponents, or at least a great majority of them, are federal, in the only true and strict sense of the word." Summing up round one, before offering closing statements, the true voluntary federation was taken over by fraud in the form of a criminally led Constitutional Convention that was not authorized lawfully, due to the fraudulent actions of criminal frauds working to CAUSE the removal of the existing (perpetual) federal, voluntary, constitution, and in place of the voluntary federation the criminals place their criminal version of so called government. True government is always for all the people all the time with no exceptions. That is what the criminals (who take over governments) claim in order to sell their snake oil, or that is the cheese (true government) they use in their rat traps. The criminals claim that government is for all people all the time without exception, and then those criminals exempt themselves as soon as their victims are led to believe their lies, and as soon as the criminals gain their power to extort power from all the people all the time. I can explain in greater detail onward in this thread, if this thread is allowed to be published. In closing there are going to be 6 more links, with some quotes, and these links afford all the people everywhere a mountain of evidence concerning what is true government of the people, by the people, and for the people, if the people want it. During the brief time of the true American voluntary federation two trials help explain how true government works: Link 1: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/artconf.asp "Freedom of speech and debate in Congress shall not be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Congress, and the members of Congress shall be protected in their persons from arrests or imprisonments, during the time of their going to and from, and attendence on Congress, except for treason, felony, or breach of the peace." That means that congressmen (including the president of congress) are not above the law, which includes common law trial by jury, etc. Link 2: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/1/35/ That is a court case in 1778. It is not a court case run by the Criminal British so as to extract wealth from American people who earn wealth. That is how common law trial by jury works as the people form a Grand Jury and they as Grand Jurors ARE the official voice of the people passing sentence of indictment upon the accused so as to then afford the accused a trial by jury. If a common man can be indicted and tried for treason then rule of law, if it is true, applies to even worse criminals, such as criminals in congress, who have a lot more power to destroy America when they perpetrate treason. This is common sense. Link 3: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/1/236/ "It is a matter well known, and well understood, that by the laws of our country, every question which affects a man's life, reputation, or property, must be tried by twelve of his peers; and that their unanimous verdict is, alone, competent to determine the fact in issue. If then, you undertake to enquire, not only upon what foundation the charge is made, but, likewise, upon what foundation it is denied, you will, in effect, usurp the jurisdiction of the Petty Jury, you will supercede the legal authority of the court, in judging of the competency and admissibility of witnesses, and, having thus undertaken to try the question, that question may be determined by a bare majority, or by a much greater number of your body, than the twelve peers prescribed by the law of the land. This point has, I believe, excited some doubts upon former occasions but those doubts have never arisen in the mind of any lawyer, and they may easily be removed by a proper consideration of the subject. For, the bills, or presentments, found by a grand Jury, amount to nothing more than an official accusation, in order to put the party accused upon his trial: 'till the bill is returned, there is, therefore, no charge from which he can be required to exculpate himself; and we know that many persons, against whom bills were returned, have been afterwards acquitted by a verdict of their country. Here then, is the just line of discrimination: It is the duty of the Grand Jury to enquire into the nature and probable grounds of the charge; but it is the exclusive province of the Petty Jury, to hear and determine, with the assistance, and under the direction of the court, upon points of law, whether the Defendant is, or is not guilty, on the whole evidence, for, as well as against, him. You will therefore, readily perceive, that if you examine the witnesses on both sides, you do not confine your consideration to the probable grounds of charge, but engage completely in the trial of the cause; and your return must, consequently, be tantamount to a verdict of acquital, or condemnation." Link 4: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/JEFFERSON/ch14.html "In every county are appointed magistrates, called justices of the peace, usually from eight to thirty or forty in number, in proportion to the size of the county, of the most discreet and honest inhabitants. They are nominated by their fellows, but commissioned by the governor, and act without reward. These magistrates have jurisdiction both criminal and civil. If the question before them be a question of law only, they decide on it themselves: but if it be of fact, or of fact and law combined, it must be referred to a jury. In the latter case, of a combination of law and fact, it is usual for the jurors to decide the fact, and to refer the law arising on it to the decision of the judges. But this division of the subject lies with their discretion only. And if the question relate to any point of public liberty, or if it be one of those in which the judges may be suspected of bias, the jury undertake to decide both law and fact. If they be mistaken, a decision against right, which is casual only, is less dangerous to the state, and less afflicting to the loser, than one which makes part of a regular and uniform system. In truth, it is better to toss up cross and pile in a cause, than to refer it to a judge whose mind is warped by any motive whatever, in that particular case. But the common sense of twelve honest men gives still a better chance of just decision, than the hazard of cross and pile." Link 5: http://www.thekingcenter.org/sites/default/files/KING FAMILY TRIAL TRANSCRIPT.pdf Page 1582 William Schaap Because when year, after year, after year you hear that something was the case, one story -- one day saying, hey, the whole thing was a lie, and it doesn't register on their brain. Page 1614 Q. (BY MR. PEPPER) "Mr. Schaap, you've described an awesome power that exists in government influenced and controlled, sometimes owned, media -- print, audio, visual media entities -- and how that infrastructure gets focused on opponents of the United States such as Martin Luther King. Page 1632 A. "Oh, but -- as we know, silence can be deafening. Disinformation is not only getting certain things to appear in print, it's also getting certain things not to appear in print. I mean, the first -- the first thing I would say as a way of explanation is the incredibly powerful effect of disinformation over a long period of time that I mentioned before. For 30 years the official line has been that James Earl Ray killed Martin Luther King and he did it all by himself. That's 30 years, not -- nothing like the short period when the line was that the Cubans raped the Angolan women. But for 30 years it's James Earl Ray killed Dr. King, did it all by himself. And when that is imprinted in the minds of the general public for 30 years, if somebody stood up and confessed and said: I did it. Ray didn't do it, I did it. Here's a movie. Here's a video showing me do it. 99 percent of the people wouldn't believe him because it just -- it just wouldn't click in the mind. It would just go right to -- it couldn't be. It's just a powerful psychological effect over 30 years of disinformation that's been imprinted on the brains of the -- the public. Something to the country couldn't -- couldn't be." The concluding done by anyone looking at this information is their work done their way. What the information above offers is to know how the criminals in America took over and how Americans can take it back peacefully. Those who choose violence as a means of getting what they want from other people define the meaning of crime, those who say they are the authorities while they choose violence as their means of getting what they want are those who define the meaning of color of law, which is simply called fraud, or malfeasance, or treason. Knowledge is powerful in the hands of everyone, therefore knowledge must be kept from the people in order for the criminals to take-over.
what you say is true, look at Marijuana, the gov said it had no medical purpose for years, and now it is hard for some to accept that is does
I sent a reply but that reply did not publish. In my reply I linked and quoted: http://teachingamericanhistory.org/ratification/elliot/vol1/approaches/ "On the 21st of March, Congress recommended to the several provincial assemblies to exert their utmost endeavors to promote the culture of hemp, flax, and cotton, and the growth of wool, in the United Colonies; to take the earliest measures for erecting and establishing, in each colony, a society for the improvement of agriculture, arts, manufactures, and commerce; and forthwith to consider of the ways and means of introducing and improving the manufactures of duck, sail-cloth, and steel." When the criminals take-over government their actions confess their guilty minds. This time the message published.
