Do you remember the Munich Olympics 1972?

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  1. HBendor

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    Newly revealed details and photos from the 1972 Olympic games...

    terror attack prove that the terrorists came to kill and maim – not to free their friends from Israeli imprisonment, as they claimed.

    Members of the Israeli Olympic delegation to the 1972 games in Munich were tortured and brutalized by their Palestinian captors prior to their murder, their families have revealed after years of silence.

    Relatives of the 11 Israeli team members who were murdered by Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) terrorists during the Munich games revealed new details of the grizzly attack, including how the Israelis were brutalized and, in at least one case, even castrated by the terrorists.

    Read the rest here
    http://unitedwithisrael.org/new-det...s+Brutalized+Israeli+Hostages+at+Munich+Games
     
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    I remember that. Typical false flag terrorist operation by you know who.
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I do remember that horrible incident back in 1972.
     
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    I believe Steven Spielberg will now withdraw his infamous film "Munich" and strongly apologize for this anti-Semitic canard.
    And I also believe in Santa Claus !
     
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    I was young, but I remember it.
     
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    Nope. Before I was hatched.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "United with Israel" is simply another fraudulent Hasbara site and infamously dishonest.

    What ever Mossad, the PLO etc ever did in Munich decades ago pales in comparison to what the US subsidized Netanyahu Regime has done only months ago & the State of Israel has been doing continuously:



    “Israel using banned weapons in Gaza: Medical sources”
    http://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/356451...edical-sources

    EXCERPT “Eyewitnesses, meanwhile, have reported that Israeli airstrikes had incinerated the bodies of Palestinians who happened to be near targeted sites.
    Israeli warplanes, they added, were using missiles that destroy their victims' bodies, often cutting them to pieces.
    Some activists posted photos of victims online, advising the fainthearted not to look at them.
    Photos showed Palestinians whose limbs had been blown off and others whose bodies looked as if they had been subject to chemical attack.
    Palestinian doctors say the Israeli airstrikes had incinerated the bodies of a large number of Palestinians, while a number of others had lost limbs.
    They added that the conditions of victims admitted to hospital revealed that Israel was using internationally-proscribed weapons in its current war on the embattled Gaza Strip.”CONTINUED

    - - - - - -

    Can you think of any more brutal, sadistic & ruthless way of killing than experimental weapons in which your human flesh falls: '...off like jelly"? [1]


    “Medical personnel claim Israel tested new weapons during attacks on Gaza”
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world...gaza-1.1919645

    EXCERPTS “Doctors and an ambulance officer believe Israel tested new weapons during its July 8th – August 26th assault on the Gaza Strip.

    “The five children from the al-Jaal family in Zeitoun were the strangest thing I ever saw in my life.”

    The room where three girls and two boys...
    ... “Their bodies were hot. Their hair and skin were black liked charred wood. When their parents arrived at the hospital, they didn’t recognise them,”

    Dr Sobhi Skaik, chief surgeon and medical director at Shifa hospital and a member of the Royal College of Surgeons in Edinburgh, told me earlier: “We saw third-degree burns that cannot be explained; neither flame burns nor chemical burns.

    It was as if the patient became mummified, and most of them died. Their skin blackened and their tissue became tough and solid. I saw dozens of patients like this in the intensive care unit,

    . “I saw more than a dozen bodies that looked normal, with no marks or wounds. But when we touched them they were slippery. If you tried to pick them up, the flesh fell off like jelly. We had to roll them in blankets.”

    . “In previous wars, we could treat most of the wounded,” says Dr Skaik. “This time, the number and magnitude of wounds was far greater. One third were dead on arrival.”CONTINUED


    To ensure that the maximum number of civilians die the most painful forms of deaths, The Israeli government bans the most qualified Dr. to treat them.


    “Israel shuts Dr Gilbert out from Gaza for life”
    http://www.thelocal.no/20141114/israel-shuts-gilbert-out-from-gaza-for-life
     
  9. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The relentlessly hyped Munich incident would not be the first time that Zionists / Jews have killed Zionists / Jews for P.R. or political purposes
     
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    The antisemitic have no problem with Muslims hacking off someone's genitals in front of his comrades but go insane if Jews try and rescue them.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who are you claiming is "anti-semitic" (aka "the rhetorical White Flag of epithets")?

    It is my understanding that the native Palestinian Arabs & indigenous Jews (pre 1850, Sephardi Jews) are "Semites" while the recently arrived, Ashkenazi, Jewish / Israeli residents of Israel / Vichy Palestine are not.
     
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    Those that have no problem with Muslims hacking off someone's genitals in front of his comrades but go insane if Jews try and rescue them.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then you should have no problem with Palestinian Resistance movements who attempt to "rescue" the targeted population of the Israeli government's Ethnic cleansing Plan Dalet:


    "ISRAEL'S PLAN DALET"; THE GREEN LIGHT FOR ZIONISM'S ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE"

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels...estine/5326140
    EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.”CONTINUED


    AND:


    “Op-Ed: Israeli Deputy Speaker calls for ethnic cleansing of Gaza”

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/...leansing-of-gaza/article/392650#ixzz3rO9NImd7
    EXCERPT " Sadly, Feiglin isn't the only prominent Israeli official to advocate accelerating the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Earlier this month, far-right Knesset member Ayelet Shaked posted a bloodthirsty call for the extermination of the Palestinian people, "including its elderly women, its cities and its villages" (shades of '48 again), on her Facebook wall. She got more than 5,000 "likes."CONTINUED


    It is important to note that in addition to the ".......5,000 Likes" other Israeli leaders & politicians have expressed similar sentiments supporting Ethnic cleansing:

    CONTINUED FROM ABOVE: "Michael Ben-Ari, another far-right lawmaker, urged Israeli troops preparing for the last invasion of Gaza to show no mercy toward any man, woman or child they encountered.

    "There are no innocents in Gaza... Mow them down," he said. "Turn it into rubble. Paint it red."

    Agreeing, IDF Major Gilad Sharon, son of Israeli war hero and "man of peace" Ariel Sharon, who once upon a time commanded a unit that, according to Time magazine, "shot every man, woman and child they could find" in multiple civilian massacres in his and Israel's youth, proposed the total destruction of Gaza and everyone in it."CONTINUED

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    Since your opposition to "Gun Control" & support of Self Defense is the same as mine, I don't understand why you would oppose Occupied Palestinians the same right that we both support against modern history's most brutal, humiliating & deadly subsidized Occupation.

    Very few Westerners who enjoy rarely interrupted electricity, drinkable water, food supply, HVAC, the freedom to travel when & where you chose, a comfortable, secure home etc etc can imagine what decades with little of any of those things & more.

    Meanwhile, you're supposed to be grateful to get an alleged "Knock on the roof" before everything you own & many you love is/are destroyed.

    Please try to imagine a life like that since you were born & ask yourself if you, honestly, wouldn't strike back at your persecutors as you would someone breaking into your home to steal an easily replaced TV at 3AM?

    The excuses that the Netanyahu Regime's multi-million dollar, State supported Hasbara (P.R.) network distorts for slaughtering thousands of innocent civilians herded into a squalid Concentration Camp / Weapons' Testing Ground [1] are so called "Raining Hamas Rockets" that have killed a total of 30 Israelis over decades* & a relative handful of stabbings by individuals who'd been pushed over the edge.

    Thanks


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    (*) “Dissecting IDF propaganda: The numbers behind the rocket attacks”
    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissecting-idf-propaganda-the-numbers-behind-the-rocket-attacks.html

    source Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC).

    EXCERPTS “To begin, Israeli spokespeople frequently remind the world that a million Israeli citizens are within range of Gaza rockets, twelve thousand of which have been fired into Israel in the last twelve years, inflicting thousands of injuries and several dead.
    However, we are rarely told exactly how many people have been killed by these rocket attacks.”
    Throughout the years of rocket attacks into Israel, a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.” CONTINUED



    [1] “The Lab”: Israel Tests Weapons, Tactics On Captive Palestinian Population”
    http://www.wrmea.org/2013-september...actics-on-captive-palestinian-population.html
    EXCERPT “The film highlights the kind of inventions for which Israel has become feted by foreign security services. It pioneered robotic killing machines such as the airborne drones that are now at the heart of the U.S. program of extra-judicial executions in the Middle East.
    The reason is that there are massive profits to be made from testing Israeli military innovations on the more than four million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.”CONTINUED



    “The Benefits” of the Israeli Occupation: Gaza is a Weapons Testing Ground for Military Contractors”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-be...sting-ground-for-military-contractors/5403047
    EXCERPTS “Palestine has long served as a laboratory for Israel’s ballooning “homeland security” industry to test and perfect weapons of domination and control, with disenfranchised and stateless Palestinians serving as their lab rats.

    Easy access to a captive population to experiment on allows Israeli weapons manufacturers to market their products as “combat-proven,” a coveted label that gives Israel a competitive edge in the international arms trade.

    The Kalanit and Hatzav tank shells detonate in midair, blanketing the people and structures below with deadly bomblets. The Kalanit, an Israeli army favorite, is so popular that it was awarded Israel’s esteemed “Defense Prize” in 2011. Though they have been used in the past, Operation Protective Edge marked the first time the Kalanit and Hatzav shells were deployed on a colossal scale."CONTINUED

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    Among the last group of people who used human beings as "Lab Rats" were hung at Nuremberg
     
  14. HBendor

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    Here is a good article on the subject matter...

    Islamoterror is the Problem, not 'Islamophobia'
    ~by Tarek Fatah (Muslim)
    The Toronto Sun
    December 22, 2015

    http://www.meforum.org/5730/islamoterror-not-islamophobia

    http://www.meforum.org/5730/islamoterror-not-islamophobia#print http://www.meforum.org/article_send.php?id=5730 Share: http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://www.meforum.org/5730/islamoterror-not-islamophobia https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?so...slamoterror+is+the+Problem,+not+'Islamophobia' http://www.meforum.org/5730/islamoterror-not-islamophobia
    http://www.meforum.org/facebook_lik...eforum.org/5730/islamoterror-not-islamophobia Be the first of your friends to like this.
    Originally published under the title "Terror the problem, not Islamophobia."


    Few North American Muslim advocacy groups have been willing to condemn violent jihad.


    One would have hoped that after the latest Islamic terror attack in America by the husband-wife team of Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, U.S. Islamic organizations would recognize it was time to condemn "jihad" itself and to stop playing the victim card. However, that was too much to ask.

    Last year, in the face of growing ISIS-inspired jihadi terrorism, the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) along with other American Islamic organizations such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), formed the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations (USCMO), which hosted a National Muslim Leadership Summit on Sunday in Washington, D.C.

    ICNA is a conservative Islamic group formed in 1968 by Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi followers of the Jamaat-e-Islami in North America. Its stated goal is "to seek the pleasure of Allah " (for the) establishment of the Islamic system of life as spelled out in the Qur'an and the Sunnah (sayings) of Muhammad."

    ICNA and CAIR have shunned liberal Muslim groups that are critical of armed jihad and Shariah as a source of public law.

    ICNA states in its 2010 members' handbook, "Wherever the Islamic movement succeeds to establish true Islamic society, they will form coalition and alliances. This will lead to the unity of the Ummah (Muslim nation) and towards the establishment of the Khilafah (the Caliphate)."

    Predictably, ICNA and CAIR did not invite secular or liberal Muslim American groups who are critical of the doctrine of armed jihad and Islamic Shariah as a source of public law.

    Reacting to the formation of the USCMO, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, an ex-U.S. Navy officer who founded and heads the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, told Fox News:

    CAIR may condemn the acts and means of radical violent Islamists, but no one should be fooled for a moment that CAIR's singular fixation (is) on stoking the flames and raising funds off the exaggerated narrative that Muslims are under siege by 'bigoted Americans' "¦ They are feeding the global movement against America.

    (CAIR says its "formula on terrorism is simple and comprehensive: CAIR condemns terrorism whenever it happens, whoever commits it" and is a "natural enemy of violent extremists.")

    After the two-day USCMO session, the coalition promised "to combat all forms of violent extremism in the homeland," noting Muslims are the major victims of terrorist groups like ISIS and frequent victims of Islamophobia. But it did not renounce the doctrine of armed jihad that feeds Islamic terrorism nor call for taking politics out of American mosques.

    Instead, USCMO flexed its electoral muscle, deciding to conduct "a drive to register one million voters prior to the 2016 presidential election."

    There was no call to cleanse the American Muslim house of all jihadi literature.

    The problem is the Islamist victimhood agenda works well among guilt-ridden liberal Americans who are quick to buy into the propaganda of Islamophobia.

    Indeed, two Muslim women recently took to the Washington Post to protest the bizarre infatuation U.S. liberals have developed towards the symbols of Islamism. As Asra Nomani and Hala Arafa wrote,

    Americans are getting duped by the agenda of Muslims who argue that a woman's honor lies in her 'chastity' and unwittingly pushing a platform to put a hijab on every woman. Please do this instead: Do not wear a headscarf in 'solidarity' with the ideology that most silences us, equating our bodies with 'honor.. Stand with us instead ... against the ideology of Islamism that demands we cover our hair.

    But is anyone listening to the voices of reason among North American Muslims?

    Tarek Fatah, a founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress and columnist at the Toronto Sun, is a Robert J. and Abby B. Levine Fellow at the Middle East Forum.
     
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    I remember it very well.
    Do you remember Deir Yassin or the bombing of the King David Hotel?
     
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    Winston Churchill: in his youth described Islam as such:
    "Islam is an ideology wrapped in a religion."

    Winston S. Churchill:
    "Some people like the Jews, and some do not. But no thoughtful man can deny the fact that they are, beyond any question, the most formidable and most remarkable race which has appeared in the world."
     
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    Deir Yassin? the place where you can find Magen David on the crossbar of the doors?
    The bombing of the King David Hotal? Do you mean when the Etzel fut bombs in vessels and then infiltrated it to the side of the hotal where the HQ of the British police were, and then warned all the rest of the residents of the hotel to leave the hotel till noon, because there is a bomb in the hotel?
     
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    My answer, and subsequent question, were aimed at Mr (I guess) Bendor in response to his original thread question but, hey-ho, this is an open forum so I acknowledge your replies too.

    You might remember Deir Yassin by the non-jewish hexagram 'on the crossbar of the doors', but the rest of the world remembers it for the massacre of the innocents there by the Irgun/stern gang/hagenah scum. Similarly with the bombing of the King David Hotel, and there is no evidence whatsoever, anywhere, that a warning was given before those same scumbags blew 90+ innocents to death.

    I mention these two events purely to illustrate that you reap what you sow.
     
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    I am not going to start apologizing for a 69 years old event.
    'Dir Yassin' was a sniper's den of malevolent B------s shooting from their high position on the Jewish convoys trying to supply food to the encircled Jerusalem...

    What the 'Irgun' did 69 years ago was their responsibility... The 'Irgun' folded in 1948 and joined the 'Haganah' which became the IDF of today.

    To scrape the bottom of the barrel to find ancient instances where Jews were trying to liberate themselves from the British yoke and compare this... for instance to the 'intifadahs' or the knifing of defenseless women is something that Israel will have to confront [this anomaly called fifth columnists Arabs living between Jews!]
     
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    ..... on top of that the KD was a military target and fair game for an insurgent wanting to push the British Military out of the Palestine Territory, if there were civilian deaths like that Patras they were collateral and certainly nbot the purpose of the attack nor any reason for it from the perpetrators standpoint.
     
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    I remember waht happened in Deir Yassin as you remember it, but just that I noticed that the Arabs that lived in Deir Yassin were actualy Crypto-Jews. On the crossbars of their doors there were Magen David.
    You could see that evidence in this short video:
    [video=youtube;StlMl077Ei8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlMl077Ei8[/video]

    Not quite.
    There are evidecnes that a warning was been given. According to the Etzel site two women fighters had the responsibility after the rest of the fighters plent the bombs in the hotel, to send a vocal warning by phone to the the hotel switchboard and they said:
    The women fighters also delivered a warning to the French consulate that was located near by. And after 25 minutes that the warning was given, an explosion shooked the area.
    The Irgun also published a poster that warned the British to evecuate all the children, women, clerks and rest of an innocent civilians from their officies, as well as not to be near the British officies because it is a life-threatening:
    9.gif

    Source: http://www.etzel.org.il/english/ac10.htm
     
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    The Arabs in Deir Yassin being Crypto-Jews doesn't make them any less innocent.

    Interesting that you should refer to the terrorists as 'women fighters' and just because the Irgun said there was a warning given, doesn't make it so. The poster might have had more credence if it had been published in English as well as Hebrew and Arabic; and where was this 'poster' posted? In the hotel? Of course it would have survived the explosion... not.
     
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    I pointed out a fact that the Arabs in Deir Yassin were Crypto-Jews.

    If there are evidences that shows that a warning was been given, then a warning was been given.

    BTW- according to you, does a terroris attack is an attack agains army bases/offices? If so, then all the armies in the world are terrorists.

    This poster was not the warning in King David hotel. The poster was anothe warning not connected to what happened in the hotel.
    The warning that was issued to the hotel were made by phone.
     
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    So why did you feel it necessary to point out they were Crypto Jews?



    Agreed, but the word of the perpetrators alone does not constitute evidence. In modern times, of course, it would be relatively easy to confirm a phone call was made; perhaps even have a recording presented. But this was 1948, not 2016.

    There are many in this world that would agree with you - all armies are terrorists. However, my personal definition is 'a single person or group that is physically belligerent towards a state or its people, not being organised or controlled by or aligned with any other state, with the implicit or explicit purpose of disrupting proper administration of that state'.



    So why mention it?
     
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    So the historical fact would not be forgotten.
    As well we need to not forget that there are evidences from verious Arab newspepers from that time, that shows something else. Like what was written in The Jordanian daily newspaper Al Urdun, April 9, 1953:
    Hazam Nusseibeh also stated that it was Hussein Khalidi who started to say what we know today, even though that the residents of Deir Yassin said otherwise:
    Hajj Amin al Husseini was Khalidi's boss, and the one that had Khalidi for secretery in the Palestine Arab Higher Committee. As the BBC TV series from 1998 showed us:
    And here are Hazem Nusseibeh himself and former resident of Deir Yassin say that it was all Khalidi fabrication: (it is an extract from the BBC TV series)
    [video=youtube;72Ata-hY9WQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72Ata-hY9WQ[/video]

    It fits nicely with the fact that Hajj Amin al-Husseini was trying to get the Arabs flee the area. As The Cairo daily Akhbar el Yom, Oct. 12, 1963 stated:
    Then, you probably will tell that there were voices from Jews that condemned it and accepted that it was Etzel and Lehi, and for that I can tell you that the Etzel and the Lehi had rivelry with Ben Gurion and thus Ben Gurion's Haganah persecuted them. Despite all this, Etzel and Lehi swallawed their pride and joint forces with the Haganah in the 1948 war, but the political rivelry between those group continued to exist.
    Historian Uri Milstein expleined it in his most meticulously researched multi-volume history of the 1948 war:
    Uri Milstein regarded it in his book from the 90's "The Rabin File":
    So what did happened in Deir Yassin? Begin expleined:
    Hence, 110 died in Deir Yassin, and not 254, after the village got warnings by speakers in Arabic to leave the village due to upcoming attack.

    Source: http://www.hirhome.com/israel/deir-yassin.htm#_ftn10

    RIght that in 1948 it was much harder to confirm a phone call by recording or something like that, that's why the thing that confirms that there was a phone call of warning in the hotel are the women and men themselves that were part of the Etzel that still live today.

    ok.


    To show you that Etzel did published warning for attacks they made. And it not was a single oceasion in King David hotel.
     

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