Marine Corps study finds few women in combat in other nations’ militaries

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    Marine Corps study finds few women in combat in other nations’ militaries.

    Also the myth is exposed of women serving in the Israel Defense Forces, just a liberal lie made up to force liberal social engineering experimentation upon the U.S. military. I already knew that it was just a left wing myth about women serving in combat units in the IDF.

    Kinda like the myth of female Soviet soldiers during WW ll. It was nothing more than Soviet communist propaganda. All those photos you saw of women carrying rifles in the Soviet army were most likely nurses, The Soviet army issued rifles to their nurses.

    What the female Soviet soldiers really did as the Soviets fought their way towards Berlin was to provide sexual services to the Soviet army's officers corp. While the average male Soviet soldier had to rape their way across Europe, the officers had their own female soldiers to provide sexual services. It caused major unit cohesion problems with in the Soviet army that as soon as Germany surrendered one of Stalin's first orders was to order that female soldiers be sent back to the Soviet Union ASAP.



     
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    When Granny was inna Army, she wanted to get a bulldog tattooed on her butt but the base commander wouldn't approve it - said her butt was fine just the way it was...
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    Ash Carter takes notice of differences between men an' womens...
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    'There Tend to Be Physical and Other Physiological Differences Between Men and Women'
    March 11, 2016 | Defense Secretary Ashton Carter announced on Thursday that he has formally approved plans prepared by the individual military services and U.S. Special Operations Command to integrate women into all combat roles.
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    War chiefs to approve of womens in combat...
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    Pentagon to Announce Approval of Women-in-Combat Plans: Sources
    Mar 10, 2016 | Defense Secretary Ashton Carter has approved service-specific plans opening previously closed combat and special operations jobs to women, Military.com has learned.
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    There is no doubt a policy of this sort is motivated by social engineering. Our President is thinking about his legacy and promises made to various factions, including feminists. I realize this may sound like histrionics, "blame Obama speak.," however there is an element of truth to suspect this is more about demographic quotas than military readiness. There have been numerous complaints from outsiders, that our officer corps is too white and too male. Often times female officers, particularly in the Army and Marine Corps hit a glass ceiling because the general ranks often, not always, but more often than not... require a leadership position in the combat arms. How can you lead a combat unit, if you're banned from being in one because of your gender? Well, develop a policy that opens up combat jobs, or more specifically direct ground combat jobs to females. The hope is to have an officer corps that is more reflective of the population at large. This is otherwise known as social engineering.

    MTC...my two cents.
     
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    Uncle Ferd quit datin' tattooed womens - he says dey spank too hard...
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    Marines Update Uniform Policy to Allow Some Tattooed Women to Enlist
    Mar 14, 2016 | A small change in Marine Corps uniform policy will allow women with some chest tattoos to enlist, according to an announcement from a Maine lawmaker.
     
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    That always annoys the hell out of me. Because people who make such claims are almost always looking to blame the military for being racist-sexist, and do not actually look at the organization itself.

    The military has been all-volunteer for over 40 years now, and that means that they can only accept those who volunteer for the military. And in this, you generally have 2 distinct groups, Officers and Enlisted.

    Now to be an Officer, you must meet even higher standards then the Enlisted do. You must have a college degree, as well as a sufficiently clear record to obtain a Secret security clearance. But ultimately, if the claim is that there are "to many White officers", then what are those individuals who are complaining doing to encourage more minority college graduates to join the military? After all, the military can only select from those who actually want to join in the first place.

    So unless they can somehow prove that more minorities and women are being weeded out in the selection process because of questionable reasons, I say they have no case there at all.

    And to make that claim look even more silly, look at the ranks of the senior NCOs. In the last 8 years, I have served under 7 Sergeant Majors. 4 were black, 2 were hispanic, 1 was white. And the figures are pretty similar for the rank of First Sergeant. When you get to the top most ranks in the military, ability is the most important thing considered for advancement, not color or religion or sex. Of course, in the enlisted side there is no requirement for having a college degree (although it helps at the highest levels). So people from all over and join, and rise according to their abilities and the needs of the military.

    But the rise of Combat Arms over other MOS in officer promotions is par for the course. For one, that is where most of the more senior Generals are posted. And if you are looking for a new General to command the 1st Armored Division, of course you are going to look for a tanker. If you want somebody to command the 82nd Airborne, of course you want an Airborne Infantry Officer (not even a "leg" who served most of his career in the 5th Mountain will do). This is nothing more then "putting the round peg in the round hole".

    If the position is for commanding a Corps sized organization, one first qualification is normally be who has served as a Division Commander. And for that position, they want somebody who has commanded a Regiment or Brigade. They are generally not going to take a General from the Quartermaster Corps and place them in command of a combined arms combat Brigade.

    But the majority of General ranks are not even in command of the various Combat organizations. At this time we have 13 4 star generals. And about half of those at least are available to any General Officer, nothing in their position mandates that it be a male. One of them is the Chief of the national Guard Brueau. Another is the CG of TRADOC. Others are Chief of Staff, Vice Chief of Staff, North American Aerospace Defense Command, even the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And any other position can be opened up to a 4 star position, as required by Congress and the President.

    And to be honest, how many 4 star Generals have we had who were cooks? Or doctors? When was the last 4 star Dentist in the military? How often does somebody from the Vetinary Corps make 2 star rank? To be honest, I always found those complaints rather silly. Like a certain movie that made the complaint there was no "Best Producer" Academy Award.
     
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    All excellent points as usual.

    A report ordered by Congress in 2009 called for greater diversity in the military's leadership so it will better reflect the racial, ethnic and gender mix in the armed forces and in American society

    The data utilized from this report in September 2008:
    77% percent of senior officers in the active-duty military are white, while only 8 percent are black, 5 percent are Hispanic and 16 percent are women,

    This was at the start of President Obama's first term, and now we're nearing the end of the second term, so it's a question of legacy. We're seeing a push now from the DoD to open up combat positions to females that were previously closed.

    I agree with you, that there are no barriers in place that would prevent non-white officers or females from being promoted up the ranks or getting commissioned in the first place. As this is an all-voluntary military the DoD can't exactly conscript their way into shaping an Armed Forces that more closely resembles American society.

    The folks complaining about this probably glance at a battalion photo and think, well there's too many white males leading combat units, where's the diversity? We have to change this, as clearly something is preventing females and minorities from seeking a career as officers in the Armed Forces. None of which means a thing in terms of military readiness of course and shouldn't readiness be the primary concern for Congress and the Commander-in-Chief and not the "image" of the services.
     
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    Gee, I wonder why...

    maybe it's because everyone else has the sense not to turn their military forces into a social engineering petri dish?
     
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    Hell, the Battalion level Commander that I had the most respect for, and would to this day follow anywhere she led me was an Asian female. She was my CO during my deployment, and was an outstanding leader and officer.

    Shortly after leaving my Battalion, she did a tour at the Pentagon in the personnel division placing officers into new positions. After 3 years there she was sent to the Command and General Staff College, at about the same time she exchanged her Silver Oak Leaf for her Silver Chicken. And from what I have heard, she is one of the contenders on the short list for getting her first star in a few years.

    And having spent the majority of her career in Air Defense, there is no question she is in a "Combat Arm" field. She has already proven herself at both the Company and Battalion level as an outstanding commander, and it would not surprise me if her next position might be in command of one of the various Air Defense Brigades. The only problem there is that in ADA, the highest rank you generally have in command is a Colonel commanding a Air Defense Brigade. If you move up to stars you become more of a staff officer then an actual combat commanding general. Air Defense does not deploy in large units, it is broken up and sent by Battery and Battlion sized units that are attached to other units. General officers in that field generally work at part of the G-3 in Corps sized organizations and larger. Or in the Pentagon working out which Battalions will be deployed where, and when. Because of the way they are organized, they are no longer actually commanding those units.
     
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    To provide some balance. There are females in military leadership positions who are fully competent.

    Way back in 1994 - [​IMG]

    and more recently....The woman who became the Air Force's first female fighter pilot in 1993 is adding another first to her list of achievements. Col. Jeannie Leavitt has become the first woman to take command of an Air Force combat fighter wing Friday in North Carolina.

    The 45-year-old from St. Louis, Mo., takes over the 4th Fighter Wing at Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, one of only three units of F-15Es, the service's premier fighter jets. Leavitt will be in charge of the wing's 5,000 active duty men and women, with 12,000 civilians in the base population.
     
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    Air Force General becomes first Female Combatant Commander...
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    Carter Nominates 1st Female Combatant Commander
    Mar 18, 2016 | Air Force Gen. Lori Robinson was named by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter on Friday as the nominee to head Northern Command, which would make her the first woman leader of a combatant command in the history of the U.S. military.
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    Women have served in the Marines in the past...
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    Kansas WWII Marine Women's Reserve Veteran Was Among First to Serve
    Mar 18, 2016 | Kathryn Wilson Schroeder -- back then, just Kathryn Wilson -- was impatient.
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    Uncle Ferd says it don't surprise him...
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    DOD Official on Women in Combat: ‘Numbers May Be Very, Very Small Or None At All’
    April 22, 2016 – A Defense Department (DOD) official said on Friday that for the number of women who want to fill combat posts heretofore not open to them, and then being able to meet the standard set for those posts, the number who actually serve will be “very, very small or none at all.”
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    Uncle Ferd says he'd like to draft him a woman...
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    This really is big breaking news and deserves it's own thread.

    It was Congress telling Obama stop using the military for PC social engineering in the name of diversity.

    I wonder how all of the female liberal millennials are going to take this ?

    How wonder how the fathers and mothers of young daughters who will have to register to fight on the battlefields in the future feel about this.

    Obama is very likely to veto this bill if it makes it on his desk before January of 2017. Which would make him a hypocrite.

    This social engineering of the military by the Obama administration has gone to far.
     
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    Black female admiral to command Europe, African theaters...
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    Navy's Highest-Ranking Female Officer to Command Europe, Africa
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    If this was 70 years ago, the OP and other Cons posters in this thread would be posting about how we can't allow "negroes" to serve alongside whites because "social engineering" has no place in the US military and everyone knows "negroes" are inferior soldiers.
     
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    Where do you dig this stupidity from? 20 minutes googling:

    Some 800,000 women served in the Soviet Armed Forces during the war, which is roughly 3 percent of total military personnel, mostly as medics. About 300,000 served in anti-aircraft units, projector lightning divisions, balloon launchers.

    Buffs:
    "Night Witches" 588th Night Bomber Regiment,
    Colonel Marina Raskova
    Major Yevdokia Bershanskaya,
    Was made entirely of women volunteers in their late teens and early twenties.
    The regiment flew harassment bombing and precision bombing missions against the German military from 1942 until the end of the war. At its largest, it had 40 two-person crews. The regiment flew over 30,000 missions and dropped 23,000 tons of bombs.
    It was the most highly decorated all-women unit in the Soviet Air Force, each pilot having flown over 800 missions by the end of the war and twenty-three having been awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union title. Thirty of its members died in combat
    http://www.wio.ru/aces/gal-f.htm



    Fighters. They had a mixed Division that included women.
    Liliya Litvyak. Fighter pilot. 168 Sorties – 12kills. KIA.
    Ekaterina Budanova. Fighter pilot – 11 kills. KIA.

    Snipers:
    From February 1945 until the end of the war, Lobkovskaya commanded a company of female snipers who eventually saw action in the Battle of Berlin. 89 Kills.
    http://ww2db.com/person_bio.php?person_id=872

    Liudmyla Pavlychenko
    Credited with 309 kills, she is regarded as one of the top military snipers of all time and the most successful female sniper in history.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko

    e.t.c.
     
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    "Polevaya Pokhodnaya Zhena"

    A hot looking woman would almost certainly find herself taken under the wing of an officer and become his mistress. AKA "mobile field wife."

    Being a Soviet mobile field wife had perks, so of course earned further enmity of the male soldiers who would see them as sleeping their way up the chain of command.

    Now Comrade Zhukov, who had taken Lida Zakharova as his mobile field wife, spoke out against the practice, but not because he was against it per se, but because he believed many officers neglected their real duties to hang out with their women. After the war, a woman who wore the Military Service Medal, "za boevye zaslugi", was said to have earned the "za polevye zaslugi", or Sexual Service Medal.




    THE MYTH OF THE WOMAN WARRIOR AND WORLD WAR II
    IN SOVIET CULTURE
    -> https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/bitst...d=9F0531BAE29614BFD622D477D9D48D0E?sequence=1
     
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    So our helicopter and fighter pilots on combat zones who are women aren't in combat roles? The Coast Guard commanding officer intercepting a drug cartels boat under fire and her female crew members aren't in combat roles? Seriously in a ground army it might be less common but in other roles where gender doesn't matter but they are in combat its likely balanced more but not all people are fit for all roles for example not everyone would be a good pilot just like they won't ever all be master chefs.
     
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    Who inserted "warship" in the sentence ? :roflol: Must have been a directive from Valerie Jarrett.

    The USS Rushmore is a LSD, a sea going taxi for U.S. Marines. It's not a warship.

    Armament:
    2 × 25 mm Mk 38 Mod 2 cannons
    2 × 20 mm Phalanx CIWS mounts
    2 × Rolling Airframe Missile
    6 × .50 caliber M2HB machine guns

    No offensive capability at all.

    During WW ll Admiral Nimitz would change the classification of amphibious ships to warships because they provided naval shore fire support, shore bombardment and fought off Japanese kamikaze attacks. Those days of an amphibious warship came to an end in August of 1945.

    The facts are, Adm. Michelle Howard has never commanded a warship.

    It's not that Michelle Howard was fast track up the chain of command because she was black and female but going back to the G.W. Bush administration eyebrows were being raised while thousands of officers and enlisted sailors were being discharged because they no longer met naval minimum physical standards (being over weight, to much body fat unable to pass the PFT) Howard was being held to lower standards. Basically she is exempt from naval regulations in the name of PC diversity.

    Michelle Howard is 99% blubber.

    This is just another example of Obama's social engineering of "Obama's PC Navy" affirmative action in the name of diversity.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the Marine Corps, ever Marine is a rifleman first.

    In the Navy what is a sailor ?

    In the U.S. Navy every sailor is a fireman. That was before the PC Navy.

    Why did the U.S. Navy win the war in the Pacific during WW ll ? Why did Jap ships sank to the bottom of the ocean while American ships took hits, kept on fighting and stayed afloat ? The U.S. Navy had perfected battle damage procedures. American sailors are firemen who are able to keep a ship from sinking.

    Female sailors are incapable of carrying out battle damage procedures.

     
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    I say an excellent work for a high school student, good language, a lot of material, knowledge of Russian I presume.

    But this is Marie Harris, for Kansas university Graduate School, the lady is running for a doctor of philosophy.
    For a doctor of philosophy the work is poor.
    Drawbacks – all contradictory facts are left out, too much dependence on folklore to little on actual documentation of the time. First part tells us about a role of female warrior in ancient Russia.
    link to ancient folklore – 1
    Whining about sexism - 10
    Link to legal documentations (Domostroy codex that describes Female – Society relationship in Ancient Russia) - 0
    Domostroy is already in effect in times of Kiev Russia, how a Doctor of philosophy can possibly not know about it?

    Altogether I do not understand why you bring this work here? This work is totally supporting the myth from top to bottom.


    Where is it stated? I have read 100 pages out of 300. All of them Support the Myth, Have you actually read the link that you posted?


    Why the hell not? Tomorrow they both might be killed, so why do you find it surprising? Or you mean that a Sniper with 50 kills can be forced to be a “mobile field wife” against her will? :). Think again. She is meeting the enemy face to face every day. She is a part of a team of hard boiled killers, with a personal graveyard behind their backs that would make any US marine cry and ask for more :).
    A female in Soviet society had more protective mechanisms than majority of societies can provide even now (well, that is what I’v been told, in legal area I confirm this statement, but I have little idea how all these mechanisms worked in the field…). Especially at war, where discipline was not a luxury but a necessity, that guaranties the effectives of a war machine. You do not want to mess with NKVD over a sexual harassment case, not really.


    Again, why the hell not? We are all humans. If this is common in peace time, why do you expect this mechanism to lose effectiveness in war period?


    I’v read the same :). But never say anything like that in presence of person that has it. You might find your internals way outside of their usual place :). The people who say such things about War Veterans are not really welcomed in majority of societies. And the medal was given to roughly 5000000 people soldiers and civilians. It is given for heroism related to War Effort (but not necessary direct combat). Receivers – flooding a German company with a dam. Putting down a fire on a bomber standing in the middle of an airfield, loaded with bombs, e.t.c.
     
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    Once again we see the confusion of a great many people on what a "combat role" is, and what is generally meant by that phrase.

    Combat Roles are generally used to define the 3 main componants of the ground army. Infantry, Cavalry (tanks) and Artillery. And those are the 3 branches that are as of this time still almost exclusively reserved for men.

    Women however have been and are serving in other aspects of combat. Pilots, Air Defense, Naval operations, the list goes on and on.

    But because somebody ends up in combat, that does not mean they are in a "Combat Role". That is determined by MOS (job) and unit. A female truck mechanic in a PATRIOT air defense unit is not in a "Combat Role", but she may still find herself in combat. The phrase does not mean what you think it does.
     

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