What's wrong with less poor babies being born into poverty ?

Besides a garbage culture, one of the major causes of black crime is poverty. Poverty is a result of too many people, not enough resources, and a lack of education, and no jobs.

My question is very simple: If you can't stand black on black crime and black crime in general, why are you not in favor of encouraging and offering tax payer funded birth control, vasectomies, and early term abortions for people in poor areas ?

This would apply to anyone of all races, but it would impact black Americans the most as they tend to be the poorest. Imagine a situation when the black population started to level off to a more sustainable and viable population ?

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Why are you against free birth control and abortion for the poor ? One is a direct result of the other. The garbage thug culture is out of control because there are too many babies, not enough stable homes, and no guidance for these guys. Instead, if we encouraged, and, hell, even paid for those who aren't fit to be parents to get their tubes tied or vasectomies what's wrong with it ? It's IMMORAL to allow babies to be born into unfit environments to unfit parents.

 

People should be responsible for themselves.

 

Well, we have Repub/Conservatives who want to close ACCESSIBLE AFFORDABLE health care clinics for women in poor neighborhoods.

Then there's the screamers who insist that IF clinics are placed where poor people have easy access that's racist genocide ( they think minority women are forced to get abortions).


Yup, MUCH cheaper to give access to cheap, reliable birth control than have to pay for poor kids but Repubs hate that idea....

 

You say one of the major causes of crime is poverty. I say one of the major causes of poverty is crime. I doubt we'll agree to solutions if we can't agree on the problems.

This is a classic example of the racism of low expectations. The only thing that will prevent blacks from committing crimes is to keep them from reproducing?

Why am I against taxpayer funded contraception and abortion? There are many reasons, but not among them is my belief that we'd be better off with fewer black people. The current trend of fatherless homes, which is the root of the crime problem, not poverty, is reversible.

 

But then how will Democrats be able to skim money for police funding, (*)(*)(*)(*) poor school districts, abortion services, and other economies of misery?

 

we'll just take it from your guys

 

I'm in favor of mandatory abortions for anyone who can't support their child without public assistance.

 

Well this would be atypical of a belief in eugenics and the control and elimination
of inferior blacks in our society that has been exhibited by the democrats and the
socialists for over one hundred years. This is the purpose of putting so many of
Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood abortion mills in primarily poor black
neighborhoods and offering government assistance to them through medicaid
or other government assistance programs.

 

Well, you'd be generally wrong about that. Without regard to any ethnicity/culture... research has shown clearly that POVERTY contributes to crime in significant ways. (This isn't new, nor is it debatable.)

There is SO much information to discredit what you suggested... even so, here is just one chunk of data for people to review:

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5137

 

It was LBJ who made it Federal policy to pay poor single women to have babies. This creates more Democrats.

 

I am not opposed. In fact I think birth control should be mandatory to receive public assistance.

And to further reduce crime, I propose making heroin freely available to those on public assistance.

 

I always felt Democrats were like that with their either or choices. They'll take $$ either way.

BTW, I appreciate your post. I'd like to see more Democrats be more transparent about where they stand.

 

You're showing data that expresses correlation, not causation.

 

On come on now .. admit that you really think we would be better off with fewer black folk. I do not believe for a second that you are immune to the GOP indoctrination and xenophobia.

 

FYI- black Americans do NOT have a "garbage culture".

 

Yep, I have zero problems with this. The bigger problem, however, is paying people to have kids. End tax credits for having children. Once the burden for raising children is no longer on the US taxpayer, and there is no financial incentive to having another kid, the problem will start to correct itself. Of course, this may mean less Democrat voters in the future, so there's always a political consequence to consider.

 

Admit you beat your wife.

 

I see some racist believe that wealthy Wall Streeters and bankers didn't commit any crimes, no millionaires ever murdered anyone, no wealthy person ever fiddles their taxes or steals anything... how odd to think in such a stupid way.........

 

The child tax credit helps all families not earning more than $250,000 (I think). I'd just assume keep it as long as there's no fair tax. I assure you I'm not having kids because of a child tax credit, and neither are poor black people. They're having kids because they're irresponsible, just like everyone else having kids before they're ready.

 

LOL Don't you ?

 

More Black babies are aborted in NYC than are born.

 

I am against an insurance company being prohibited from issuing policies that don't cover those things even if the insured is a 60 year old single man, and in that there is a difference. I don't know what you consider to be a "unfit parent" but we probably differ on that. Where I do agree with you maybe is on the stability of homes. More specifically, strong family support system seems to be one of the reasons immigrants, legal or otherwise, usually bring less crime into neighborhoods as their concentration increases in those neighborhoods. I don't know the in and outs of social policy as the requirements have changed over the years, but there seems to now be an economic incentive for poor people to not marry to get better benefits. I assume that is either due to poor design or because the GOP has blocked expansion of benefits to the point that people have actually started changing their circumstances to get enough to survive on even if they otherwise would not be inclined to do that.

 

A family making $240,000 a year should not receive tax credits for their children. They can afford them.

A single mother with 2 kids on welfare gets paid more than the minimum wage (sometimes MUCH more in states like Hawaii) in the majority of states in the country. And, the way our welfare system works, if she was to plop out another kid, her monthly stipend increases. So I have a very hard time believing that there are no instances out there of poor people viewing the welfare system to their advantage by having more kids.

Regardless, though, the taxpayer should not be held responsible for the irresponsibility of others. If someone wants to screw around and have kids when they aren't ready, and they don't want to abort, they should pay for them. We don't need to subsidize their behavior.

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So what? Do you really lose sleep over there being less black people in New York than there otherwise would be?

 

Sounds like Eugenics.

 

Proof?