Tarut Island: a 7,000 Years History of Mankind

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    Canaanites and Arabs or Arab Canaanites have a long history all over Mesopotamia, Syria, Palestine and the Levant as well as on the Arabian Peninsula.

    Tarut Island: a 7,000 Years History of Mankind

    http://www.qatifoasis.com/?act=artc&id=2000

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    Tarut: The Name and the History

    Tarut history is date back to pre-5,000 BC. It is considered as one of the most ancient sites that were inhabited by humans, as well as one of the oldest areas along the Arabian Peninsula.

    The island itself is also one of the components of Al Qatif oasis in the eastern province. The name of the island was taken from Ishtar or Ashtaroot, which refers to (love and war), as was believed by the Babylonians, the Canaanites and Phoenicians.

    Tarut was the heart of Dulmon (Dilmun) Kingdom and had a major role in the history of the region since 3,000 BC.

    Human habitation in this area over the centuries was very large and archaeological discoveries were found until recently, which is rare in most parts of the world's archaeological sites.

    The Island had a significant role in trade activity in the entire Gulf region. It was a central point for trade between Mesopotamia and along the coastal areas in the east of the Arabian Peninsula. Its strong relationships with many of the urbanized areas along the region were well known.

    Archeological Collections:

    The most important collections found in the Tarut was pure golden statue representing (Ashtaroot) goddess. The statue was found placed on the ground in one of the palm groves in the Tarot.

    There are many other statues, copper and pottery vessels and traditional weapons found in the Tarut that are displayed in the Riyadh Museum. It also contains a Portuguese fort which is located in Al Derah. The Portuguese castle was repaired in the 951H, which had been built on the ruins of former settlements and one of the oldest ones, dating back to over 5,000 years ago.

    The site consists of the Fortress of Al-Sheikh Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Fehani, which was built in 1303H as well as the Fortress of Abu Al-leaf, which is located between the Tarot and Al Qatif, in addition to the three mosques on the old road from of Al Qatif.
     
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    And of course we shouldn't forget the another offshoot of the Canaanites - the Jews.
     
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    Now THERE'S an interesting viewpoint! So you acknowledge that it's the Canaanites that have a more genuine claim to Palestine than do the Jews...
    Your mate Bendy might have something to say about that: he's under the peculiar impression that the Canaanites were "absorbed" by the Jews...LOL
     
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    There is also an ancient Christian tomb on Tarut Island. ... a young girl.. some say a princess.
     
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    Canaanites are not Arab nor Arab Canaanites!
    When Joshua conquered Canaan he was not aware there were Arabs from Arabia there... In fact as always on this Forum you and your minions tried to connect Palestinians to the Philistine and since this was not a success you go back a few years to the Canaanite period... you failed again.

    Israel/Palestine is the ancient Land of the Jews and not the Arabs please go and check what I said, and stop being the <enfant terrible> on this forum.
     
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    I just wanted to confirm again for the umpteen time to cheddar cheese that the Canaanites were absorbed by the Israelite/intermarried with them and today the blood that flows in Jewish veins is Canaanites... Sooooo today, the Jews are the original owners of that piece of land... Please do not connect us to the present "catastrophe called Arabs"!!!
     
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    Hate to break this to you but unlike the Jews who have existed continually as a peoples with common ethnic and religious beliefs for thousands of years and now have their own nation in modern day Israel there is no such thing as an organized or historical group known as the 'Canaanite Peoples.'
     
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    Once more to back your statements... the Canaanite were absorbed through the years by the Israelite and what is present today is the Jewish people that is the descendants of the Hebrew/Israelite/Jews! I do not think that today any Jew would be offended if called half/quarter Canaanite.
     
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    Job was an Arab from Uz in Arabia Deserata aka Edom.

    Joshua didn't conquer Canaan.. The Hebrew armies were small.. as was the population of the village of Jerusalem.. And, there is zero evidence that any of the Canaanite cities were interrupted or destroyed. Its braggadocio ...
     
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    The Canaanites had towns and villages all over Sinai and Canaan.. Its recorded by the Egyptians. They paid tribute to Pharaoh .. Many of these towns have been excavated .. they were involved in mining, metallurgy and pottery making.

    There was no grandiose history of Israel.. Its an elaborate fiction.

    The Hebrews weren't even monotheistic until after the Babylonian exile.. That's why there is so much evidence of the Teraphim.
     
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    Can't for the life of me remember being invited for cocktails at a Canaanite community dinner but then again I don't get out much. How about you, have you many Canaanite buddies you hang out with?
     
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    To fortify the above... This is a unique piece I kept for the <mixed up genre> on this forum.
    Land of Canaan

    Canaanites,

    In the Old Testament, original inhabitants of the land of Canaan. According to the Book of Judges, the Israelites, during the 2nd millennium BC or earlier, gradually subjugated the Canaanite cities. By the end of the reign of Solomon, king of Israel, the Canaanites had virtually been assimilated into the Hebrew people, among whom they appear to have exerted a reactionary religious influence. The Canaanite religion itself was based on the worship of the divinities Baal and Ashtoreth. Biblical scholars now believe that the Hebrew language was derived from Canaanite sources, and that the Phoenician language was an early form of Hebrew. Recent discoveries indicate that, before the Hebrew conquest of the south of Canaan, the Canaanites and the Phoenicians constituted a single nation, and that the people now known as the Phoenicians subsequently developed as a separate nation

    Any Encyclopedia would have given a somewhat restricted description of Jewish antiquity since it derives mostly from the Bible and some from Josephus Flavius (our turncoat). The Septuagint, Greek Ancient writings and Archeology tend to give a fragmentary analysis on Canaan and the Philistines (Trude and Moshe Dothan <People of the Sea> the search for the Philistines).

    As this is a very interesting theme to those that would want to augment their knowledge&#8230; I will G-d willing try to expand on the subject matter and write some more at a later stage. I hope what follows will give you in the meantime a satisfactory picture, quote:-

    The &#8220;Land of Israel&#8221; had many names and was called by many names in Antiquity&#8230; in between; it was called the &#8220;Land of the Jordan&#8221;, after the large river, which flows through its entire length (Psalm 42:7), and also &#8220;Land of Carmel&#8221; (Jer. 2:7). The term &#8220;Land of Zion&#8221;, the poetic name of Jerusalem, appears in modern literature.

    The ancient peoples who lived there before and during the Israelite conquest also gave the Land their names: &#8220;land of Canaan&#8221; or the &#8220;land of the Canaanites&#8221;, after the ancient people who lived in the northern part of the country, and &#8220;land of the Amorite&#8221;, after those who dwelled in the south.

    The prophet Amos, speaking in the name of the Lord, said: &#8220;I brought you up... to inherit the land of the Amorite&#8221; (Amos 2: 10). The Sages added: "There is no people harder than the Amorite; a hard person is called an Amorite" (Tosefta, Shabbat 7,23). Also &#8220;land of the seven peoples&#8221;, as in the Book of Joshua: &#8220;&#8230;He will dispossess for you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girga(*)(*)(*)(*)es, Amorites, and Jebusites&#8221; (Josh. 3:10). The Jebusites lived in Jerusalem; hence the ancient name &#8220;city of the Jebusites&#8221;. The Midrash uses the term &#8220;land of the ten peoples&#8221;, and gives their names: the Kenites, Kenizites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Refaim, Amorites, Canaanites, Girga(*)(*)(*)(*)es, and Jebusites (Genesis Rabbah 48,27). The Israelite tribes settled in the Land and gradually overcame these various peoples until with passing generations the other peoples disappeared, and the entire land became the Land of Israel.

    The sages of the Talmudic period, who spoke Aramaic, rendered the names of the Land in that
    Language, and said: &#8220;The Lord's presence does not dwell outside the Holy Land&#8221; (Zohar
    Exodus, Terumah, p. 170b). The residents of Babylonia, to the east of Israel, called the Land
    &#8220;West&#8221; and its inhabitant&#8217;s "children of the West": "The sons of the West read the Torah during
    a three-year period" (Babylonian Talmud, Megillah 29a). The Land was called "mother"; other
    lands, &#8220;alien&#8221;. The Sages said of one who left the Land: &#8220;He left his mother's bosom and
    embraced an alien bosom&#8221; (Jerusalem Talmud, Mo'ed Katan 3). Of one who died in the Land
    and one who died elsewhere they said: &#8220;One who gives up [his soul] in his mother's bosom is
    unlike one who does so in an alien bosom&#8221; (Jerusalem Talmud, Ketubot 12). The Land of
    Israel is called &#8220;home&#8221; and the other lands &#8220;outside&#8221; (Psalms Midrash, &#8220;Shoher Tov&#8221;, 68:4).
    Scholars who live in Babylonia (&#8220;here&#8221;) are different from those of the Land of Israel (&#8220;there&#8221;)
    (Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 5a). The Midrash calls the Land &#8220;world&#8221;: &#8220;Why 'world'
    (Tevel)? Since it is involved (m&#8217;tubelet) in all&#8221;. [Play on the Hebrew word &#8220;tevel&#8221;] (Sifrei Deut.
    37, Proverbs, 8:26). Another name is strength as the ancient said: &#8220;there is no strength but the
    Land of Israel&#8221;.

    The name &#8220;Palestini&#8221;, from the Greek and Roman &#8220;Palestina&#8221;, appears in ancient Jewish literature. On the words of the Torah "there was famine in all the lands" (Gen. 41:54), the Sages said: "In three lands, one of them &#8220;Palestini&#8221; (Genesis Rabbah 90,6). On the Philistine city of Gath, which according to the Bible is in the South (Amos 6:2), it is said: &#8220;Those are the hills of Palestini&#8221; (Leviticus Rabbah 5,3). The Rabbis also refer to the Roman governors a high official in the Land of Israel, as &#8220;ruler of Palestini&#8221; (Yalkut Shimoni, Amos, 145).

    The name &#8220;Palestine&#8221; was also used by the early Zionists. The first Zionist bank established in England was called the &#8220;Anglo-Palestine Company&#8221; (A.P.C.). The bank, which became the nucleus of today's "Bank Leumi", printed bills with this name. Hebrew pronouncements during the early part of the British Mandate used the term &#8220;Palestina&#8221;. The British were later convinced, after great effort, to add in parentheses the name &#8220;Land of Israel&#8221;, and then only in abbreviation.
    Many terms for the Land exist in other languages. The English call it &#8220;Palestine&#8221;, and the Germans &#8220;Palastina&#8221;, having adopted the name through the course of generations from the Greek and Roman inhabitants of the Mediterranean coast. As seagoing peoples, the Greeks and Romans first discovered the Land of Israel through direct contact with its Philistine inhabitants, who lived in their coastal country of &#8220;Philistia&#8221; - From there, the name spread to the entire country. During the period of Roman rule the land was divided into districts: &#8220;Palestina Prima&#8221; in the South, &#8220;Palestina Secunda&#8221; in the central portion, and &#8220;Palestina Tertia&#8221; in the southern part of Transjordan. The English also called the country &#8220;the Holy Land&#8221;, and the French &#8220;Terre Sainte&#8221;, from the Latin &#8220;Terra Sancta&#8221;. The State of Israel issued a special medallion bearing the words "Terra Sancta" for non-Jewish pilgrims. The English "Land of Israel" and the French "Pays d'Israel" appear in Christian literature, and writers have called their books on the Land by these names. Another name common among non-Jews is &#8220;the promised land&#8221;, found in Latin literature and maps of the country. The English and Germans also use the names &#8220;land of the Bible&#8221; and &#8220;land of the Holy Scriptures&#8221;. &#8220;Das Gelobte Land&#8221; (the praiseworthy land) appears in German literature praiseworthy for the great events, which occurred during the time ancient Israel dwelt in the homeland of the Holy Scriptures and cradle of Christianity.

    In Arabic literature, the Land of Israel appears once in the Koran, as &#8220;Ard al Makdasa&#8221; (the Holy Land) in the Islamic version of Moses' words to the people of Israel: &#8220;Enter, my people, the Holy Land which Allah has assigned for you&#8221; (Koran, 5, &#8220;The Table&#8221;, 24). The Emir of Mecca called it <Ard Ibna&#8217;a Ihal Aslyin> =<Land of the original Owners> Ref. The Jews.

    Today the Arabs call the land &#8220;Falestin&#8221;, the Arabic version of &#8220;Palestina&#8221;, appearing in ancient Jewish literature. This name is found also in medieval Arabic literature, where it designates only a part of the Land of Israel, the southern district and its capital Ramla, corresponding to the ancient Roman &#8220;Palestina Prima&#8221;.

    Between medieval and modern times, the Arabs also called the Land of Israel, together with neighboring Syria, &#8220;A-Sham&#8221;.

    During the modern period, after the end of World War I, nationalist Arabs called the Land, including Transjordan, &#8220;Suria a-Jenubiyeh&#8221; (southern Syria). This was also the name of an Arabic newspaper published in Jerusalem. These nationalists hoped to annex the Land of Israel, then under British rule, to Syria, where an Arabic kingdom had been established. When the French, who had been promised the mandate over all of Syria and Lebanon, put an end to this kingdom, the term &#8220;southern Syria&#8221; disappeared.

    Bibliography Zev Vilnay
     
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    The Greek Historian Herodotus referred to Palestine as Syria-Palestine.

    Joshua's army didn't defeat the Canaanites or destroy their towns.. The Jews were a small population, perhaps 2,000 people lived in and around Jerusalem.

    Archaeologists have excavated many Canaanite towns in Sinai and Palestine and there's no evidence that their cities were destroyed or even interrupted.
     

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