If Hillary is elected President....

If Hillary Clinton gets into the Oval Office this fall, I predict panic-buying in the gun market.

There will be extreme shortages of both guns and ammo.
Hillary could win the NRA Salesperson of the Year for what she will do for gun sales.

 

The funny thing is I think she will be like Obama, and talk a good talk about gun control, but do absolutely nothing. At this point in American history, I'm not too concerned about losing my gun rights. That could change quickly, but I doubt it. Most of my adult life has seen lessening gun control. (I consider my adult life to have started in 1987, when I graduated college). We had about 8 years of worsening gun control, but since then it's just gotten better.

 

You figure 310 million aren't enough? Could be.

 

Likely, which is why I've taken advantage of the relatively low prices of late.

 

Hillary is a terrible candidate and once again she not doing a great job of waddling down the stretch. What if Bernie surprises us in New York? What if the "FBI Primary" results in super-dels pealing off the fat little frog and joining the socialist?

Bernie certainly has problems, but it is my understanding that he is actually pretty good on 2A.

 

I think the only thing limiting gun sales is the lack of things to shoot at. Jaysus those people must get bored.

 

Bernie Questions Her Judgment:

Her Senate vote for war in Iraq, crony of Wall Street.

"If you're both screaming at each other, the viewers won't be able to hear either of you," Blitzer said after Clinton and Sanders spent several seconds talking over each other.

Clinton still losing ground on her Left Flank. She isn't even close to being able to pivot to the middle for the General Election.

Clinton campaign won't release speech transcripts of her highly paid speeches to financial firms after she left the State Department. She positioned herself as the future President and then charged $225k a pop for crappy 35 minute speeches, the only function of which was to serve as vehicle for these firms to "donate" to her. Similarly foreign governments "donated" to her "charitable" Foundation which allowed her to launder bribes and evade income and election laws.

Sanders has hammered her for refusing to release transcripts of remarks she made to companies like Goldman Sachs, gigs that have earned her millions.

"Why not just release the transcripts and put this whole issue to bed?" CNN co-moderator Dana Bash asked Clinton.

If releasing the transcripts would put the issue to bed, she would.

She regrets the Democrat Crime Bill that put a generation of Black Men behind bars.

 

It all depends on how one judges her judgement. If you value judgement based on the most politically expedient option at the time, nobody comes close to Hillary Clinton. For myself, I can't give her a pass on the Iraq War vote.

 

State Dept. Releases Phone Transcript of Hillary Admitting She Knew Benghazi Was Planned Attack

The Liars of Benghazi:


Hillary Clinton blamed an “awful” internet video for the deaths of four Americans in the terror attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi just three days after the assault on the compound that killed Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

“We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film,” Clinton told Kandil. “It was a planned attack – not a protest.”

Kandil agreed.

“You’re not kidding. Based on the information we saw today we believe that group that claimed responsibility for this is affiliated with al-Qaida.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...edly-releases-new-clinton-benghazi-documents/

The fat ugly lying corrupt waddling frog. I used to feel sorry for her that she was likely the most cheated on woman in America. No more.

 

The supposed Iraq "war vote" is political hindsight and a mischaracterization.

The Senate vote authorizing use of force was passed in November, 2002, months before Bush decided to invade. It was not a vote to go to war in Iraq. It was a vote authorizing the Bush administration to use force, *if* diplomatic efforts failed. It was done at a time was the administration was negotiating with Iraq about inspections and and compliance with UN resolutions. A vote denying the president to use force would have completely undermined any credibility or leverage the administration would have with such negotiations. It was a reasonable thing to do. Clinton explained exactly that in the speech she gave when she signed it.

It worked in that Iraq agreed to let UN inspectors in with unfettered access to everywhere in the country. UN inspectors made hundreds of spot inspections all over Iraq and found no evidence of the supposed WMD. In spite of that, the Bush administration pressed ahead with the war.

It was the Bush administration, not Clinton or the Democrats, that made the decision to invade Iraq.

Now, I can agree that in hindsight, knowing how the Bush administration abused its power, that giving them that authority was a mistake. Clinton herself has stated that. But that is judging in hindsight.

It always irks me a bit when people say that Clinton voted for war. That's not accurate.

 

Thanks for sharing the RW propaganda.

But the truth, as found by multiple investigation including bi-partisan House and Senate intelligence committee reports, is that early on they were getting lots of intelligence that pointed to the video as being a spark for the event, just as it sparked violent protests in numerous places throughout the middle.

And still today they don't know the real cause for it.


Weeks after the attacks, intelligence reports similarly remarked on the "fragmentary and contradictory reporting about who organized the attack," and that it is "unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control and if the extremist group leaders directed their members to participate in the attacks or the attackers did so on their own. To this day, significant intelligence gaps regarding the identities, affiliations and motivations of the attackers remain.

On September 15, the CIA assessed that the attacks were inspired by the September 11 storming of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo. On September 12, the DIA reported that there were no indications of preoperational planning, but that a mix of terrorists attackers "likely leveraged a target of opportunity amidst security vulnerabilities created by protest activity. Weeks afterwards, CIA and NCTC reported that "the attack probably was not specifically planned for 11 September. In total, analysts received 21 reports that a protest occurred in Benghazi-fourteen from the Open Source Center; one from CIA, two from ___, and four from NSA.
House Permanent Committee on Intelligence, bi-partisan report. p. 25
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/11/21/benghazi.report.pdf


It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attacks or whether extremist group leaders directed their members to participate. Some intelligence suggests the attacks were likely put together in short order, following that day's violent protests in Cairo against an inflammatory video, suggesting that these and other terrorist groups could conduct similar attacks with little advance warning.
Senate Select Intelligence Committee, bi-partisan report, pp 40-41
http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/press/benghazi.pdf

Conservatives demonstrate what classy people they are in almost every post.

 

No. Clinton was right within hours. Then she and the WH lied and lied and lied and lied some more. She even stood by the caskets of the fallen and "her friend Chris", looked into the eyes of their grieving family members AND LIED HER ASS OFF.

She is a horribly evil woman. Fat, lies, and has cankles. I suspect she stinks as well. Understandably she isn't particularly popular. She is a terrible choice, I can't believe you guys are trying to gift wrap the nomination to her. Why in the world would you even be associated with her? Bernie is a much better choice.

 

Thanks for sharing your unsupported opinion.

I'll take the bi-partisan reports signed off by the House and Senate Republicans. Others can decide for themselves.

 

The Gun Manufacturers dog whistle.

Every time gun sales dip, they trot out the "end of the world," scenarios.

Meanwhile, gun laws are really less restrictive now than during the Bush I years.

 

Yes.... and, since 1993, violent crime, gun-related violent crime, murder, and gun-related murder has fallen 55%

 

Actually The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform released an interim report on the Accountability Review Board appointed by Clinton that pointed out that Clinton appointed the board that investigated and criticized the conclusions in the board’s final report.

The Senate Committee On Homeland Security And Governmental detailing the "high risk" of a terrorist attack at the U.S. facilities in Libya criticized the State Department for not addressing the security concerns leading up to the attack, it also found "administration officials were inconsistent in stating publicly that the deaths in Benghazi were the result of a terrorist attack." The report attributed the State Department’s security failures to intelligence problems and a failure "to imagine the type of attack that occurred."

The Senate Intelligence Committee report called the Benghazi attacks "preventable." The committee concluded the State Department had received ample warning about deteriorating security in Libya and did nothing to increase security in the weeks leading up to the attack. The report faulted intelligence officials for not relaying information on the CIA annex to the U.S. military.

The House Committee on Foreign Affairs released a report criticizing Clinton and other high-ranking officials who they said were "provided extensive warning of the deteriorating security environment in eastern Libya." The report also criticized the State Department’s Accountability Review Board, which "was seriously deficient in several respects," especially in its failure to comment on the actions of the department’s highest ranking officials, including Clinton.

The House Committee on the Judiciary focused on the FBI investigation that followed the terrorist attack. The committee released an interim progress report that detailed how the FBI did not investigate the scene until three weeks after the attack and spent less than one day collecting evidence in Benghazi. The committee faulted Clinton for reducing security at the Benghazi consulate despite her testimony that she "had no knowledge" of security requests from the compound.

The Armed Services Committee found that the Obama administration failed to address security threats in Benghazi and that the military was unprepared for possible violence in Libya.

The House Select Committee on Benghazi is still reviewing the concealed State Department emails about the attacks that Hillary had concealed on her clandestine server squirreled away in the closet of a bathroom. Without supervision, she deleted half of the emails, in the tens of thousands she claims were about yoga and a wedding. As sloppy as she is about everything else and as much as she lies, she probably did not delete these emails correctly and they likely have been recovered. What is in the deleted emails has not yet been released. Over a 100 FBI agents have been actively involved in this case of mishandling government information.

It was during the investigation of the Benghazi slaughter and Hillary's cover-up that it was discovered she used a private email server while serving as Secretary of State.

She is a liar, thoroughly corrupt, fat, waddles, screeches and I suspect smells quite foul. I'm not sure why you folks think coronating her for the nomination is a good move. You would be far better off running Bernie. He seems to be quite straightforward and honest.

 

All this blather has what to do with the video playing a role in the Benghazi event?

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

Bernie is passionate and I believe he is probably the most straight up of all the candidates. But while I think his heart is in the right place, his policies are too far left for me and he lacks experience and knowledge in areas compared to Clinton.

 

When did gun sales dip?
Records are being set.

 

The video played no role.
This was not a spontaneous attack, it was planned.
Additional security was requested long before the video.
They saw this coming from a mile away.

 

Thanks for sharing your unsupported but biased opinion.

I'll take the bi-partisan reports signed off by the House and Senate Republicans I cited above over your baseless say so. Others can decide for themselves.

 

I don't know who Kandil is but the fact remains, there were protests about the film all over the Arab world the day of the Benghazi attack. I'm not fond of Hillary for other reasons.

 

I'm not fond of the Hildebeast for ANY reason.
I rather suspect that the only thing that can keep the D. from being elected would be foul play from the RNC.
I further suspect that if Hildebeast is spared from prosecution and foisted upon us as POTUS, even the American of "average" intelligence will figure out that we're being played. Stand by for "American Spring".

 

The Cloward-Piven strategy is reaching a pivotal moment...

In the mid-sixties at the height of the “social revolution” the line between democratic benevolence and outright communism became rather blurry. The Democratic Party, which controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress, was used as the springboard by social engineers to introduce a new era of welfare initiatives enacted in the name of “defending the poor”, also known as the “Great Society Programs”. These initiatives, however, were driven by far more subversive and extreme motivations, and have been expanded on by every president since, Republican and Democrat alike.

At Columbia University, sociologist professors Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven introduced a political strategy in 1966 in an article entitled 'The Weight Of The Poor: A Strategy To End Poverty'. This article outlined a plan that they believed would eventually lead to the total transmutation of America into a full-fledged centralized welfare state (in other words, a collectivist enclave). The spearpoint of the Cloward-Piven strategy involved nothing less than economic sabotage against the U.S.

Theoretically, according to the doctrine, a condition of overwhelming tension and strain could be engineered through the overloading of American welfare rolls, thereby smothering the entitlement program structure at the state and local level. The implosion of welfare benefits would facilitate a massive spike in poverty and desperation, creating a financial crisis that would lead to an even greater cycle of demand for a fully socialized system. This desperation would then “force” the federal government to concentrate all welfare programs under one roof, nationalize and enforce a socialist ideology, and ultimately, compact an immense level of power into the hands of a select few.
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The tactic can only decrease wealth security by making all citizens equally destitute. As we have seen in numerous socialist and communist experiments over the past century, economic harmonization never creates wealth or prosperity, it only siphons wealth from one area and redistributes it to others, evaporating much of it as it is squeezed through the grinding gears of the establishment machine. Socialism, in its very essence, elevates government to the role of all-pervasive parent, and casts the citizenry down into the role of dependent sniveling infant. Even in its most righteous form, Cloward-Piven seeks to make infants of us all, whether we like it or not.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/cloward-piven-strategy-being-used-destroy-america

Equality through universal dependence.

 

She will be elected by the will of the people. Or, maybe, this time around she will be elected by default. The Republicans failed to get serious and are putting up only token resistance. Her only real competition is coming from within her own party.

 

Hillary Clinton will be a business as usual president that takes care of her Wall Street friends, lobbyist and mega money donors. Not much if anything will change. She will yak, yak, yak and then do whatever those with the money want or let her do.