175 states signing landmark Paris deal on climate change

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — Leaders from at least 175 countries were signing the Paris Agreement on climate change Friday as the landmark deal took a key step forward, potentially entering into force years ahead of schedule.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, holding his young granddaughter, joined dozens of world leaders for a signing ceremony that set a record for international diplomacy: Never have so many countries signed an agreement on the first available day. States that don't sign Friday have a year to do so.

"We are in a race against time," U.N. secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told the gathering. "The era of consumption without consequences is over."

Many now expect the climate agreement to enter into force long before the original deadline of 2020. Some say it could
happen this year.


I think we can put the denier nonsense to bed now. We need to formally approve this quickly and get started.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/170-states-poised-sign-landmark-climate-agreement-040258620.html

 

So, you think politics is science eh? Figures. The agreement has no teeth but sure makes the one world government types happy.

 

Then feel free to ignore it. We will move on without you

 

The stupid will move on without me. Why wouldn't countries join in on this redistribution scheme the few Western countries dreamed up? Your tax dollars will go to other countries now, you should be happy.

 

It has no teeth remember. Ignore it. Just like we ignore you. LOL

 

Since it is completely voluntary and Western countries (basically 3 not including China) limit production of CO2 and developing countries get to expand production of CO2, tell us how it will do anything? Nothing but a feel good moment for politicians.

You must have jumped on all the spectacular failures of past scientific predictions because you appear to be very gullible and incapable of learning from history, much less understanding science.

 

For something that has no teeth you seemed awfully worked up about it. LOL. IGNORE IT. We are moving on without you.

 

The ignorant will be led by the nose to world governance, the main goal of environmentalists.

 

What a tizzy you are in. Over an agreement that has no teeth. LOL

 

Some people believe stupid is good. Some people are led by stupid.

COP21 was anti-capitalist (which has been the environmentalist agenda all along) as stated by some world leaders at the venture so it is no surprise the Obama administration signed it.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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Just pointing out how gullible you are.

 

Wow you are really upset. All over an agreement that has no teeth? I think this agreement must have more power than you are letting on. Like maybe a LOT more power. Oh buddy....you are priceless.

 

Like I said before, just pointing out how gullible you are thinking the politics is science.

 

I understand that the Obama's attended in separate jets, and that it is an "agreement", not a Treaty and that compliance is voluntary.

California’s Attorney General, "Krazy" Kamala Harris initiated a purported investigation into “whether Exxon Mobil Corp. repeatedly lied to the public and its shareholders about the risk to its business from climate change — and whether such actions could amount to securities fraud and violations of environmental laws.”

Kamala Harris is running for the Senate. As part of her campaign, she has sought press coverage of her attacks on “dark money,” i.e., money the Democrats don’t control. Harris has demanded that conservative 501(c)(3) organizations file their federal IRS Form 990s, including Schedule B, which identifies donors, with her office. Her obvious intent was either to publicize the names of donors, which are confidential under federal law, so that they could be threatened by liberals, or else to shut them up herself through bogus investigations.

Americans For Prosperity brought an action in federal court, seeking an injunction barring Harris from seeking Schedule B to its Form 990. Today, following a full trial on the merits, Federal Judge Manuel Real granted AFP’s motion and issued a permanent injunction against the Attorney General. Judge Real’s opinion deserves to be read in its entirety; here it is:

The court found that AFP’s donors had a reasonable apprehension of physical violence if their identities were released to liberals:

The Court heard ample evidence establishing that AFP, its employees, supporters and donors face public threats, harassment, intimidation, and retaliation once their support for and affiliation with the organization becomes publicly known. For example, Lucas Hilgemann, Chief Executive Officer of AFP, testified that in 2013, the security staff of AFP alerted him that a technology contractor working inside AFP headquarters posted online that he was “inside the belly of the beast” and that he could easily walk into Mr. Hilgemann’s office and slit his throat. (Hilgemann Test. 2/23/16 Vol. I, p. 57:2–14). That individual was also found in AFP’s parking garage, taking pictures of employees’ license places. (Id. at 57:15–23).

Another witness and major donor, Art Pope, testified about an AFP event in Washington D.C. in 2011. Mr. Pope testified that after protesters attempted to enter the building and disrupt the event, they began to push and shove AFP guests to keep them inside of the building. (Pope Test. 2/24/16 Vol. II, p. 47:7–15). Mr. Pope attempted to help a woman in a wheelchair exit the building; however the protesters had blocked their path. (Pope Test. 2/25/16 Vol. I, p. 21:20–22:12). Once they finally exited the building, they still had to go through a hostile crowd that was shouting, yelling and pushing. (Id. at 22:22–23:2).

At another event in Wisconsin, after speaking to a crowd of AFP supporters, Mr. Hilgemann was threatened by a protester who used multiple slurs and spit in Mr. Hilgemann’s face. (Hilgemann Test. 2/23/16 Vol. I, p. 48:12–49:15). Again, at another event in Michigan where an AFP tent was set up, several hundred protesters surrounded the tent and used knives and box-cutters to cut at the ropes of tent, eventually causing the large tent to collapse with AFP supporters still inside. (Id. at 50:16–51:25).

The Court also heard from Mark Holden, General Counsel for Koch Industries, who testified that Charles and David Koch, two of AFP’s most high-profile associates, have faced threats, attacks, and harassment, including death threats. (Holden Test. 2/23/16 Vol. II, p. 30:17–35:13). Not only have these threats been made to the Koch brothers because of their ties with AFP, but death threats have also been made against their families, including their grandchildren. (Id. at 31:3–10). Mr. Pope has faced similar death threats due to his affiliation with AFP and has even encountered boycotts of his nationwide stores, Variety Wholesalers. (Pope Test. 2/24/16 Vol. II, p. 22:8–15, 29:5–17). In December 2013, about 130 protesters picketed in front of his stores, in part, because of his affiliation with AFP. (Id. 32:24–33:2). As a result of these boycotts, threats, and exposure, Mr. Pope testified that he considered stopping funding or providing support to AFP . (Id. at 50:1–3).

The Court can keep listing all the examples of threats and harassment presented at trial; however, in light of these threats, protests, boycotts, reprisals, and harassment directed at those individuals publicly associated with AFP, the Court finds that AFP supporters have been subjected to abuses that warrant relief on an as-applied challenge. And although the Attorney General correctly points out that such abuses are not as violent or pervasive as those encountered in NAACP v. Alabama or other cases from that era, this Court is not prepared to wait until an AFP opponent carries out one of the numerous death threats made against its members.

A final argument to consider by the Attorney General is that its office is only seeking disclosure of AFP’s Schedule B for nonpublic use and therefore there is no potential for public targeting of private donors; however, the Attorney General’s inability to keep confidential Schedule Bs private is of serious concern. In its previous order remanding this case, the Ninth Circuit found that “plaintiffs [] have raised serious questions as to whether the Attorney General’s current policy actually prevents public disclosure.” Americans for Prosperity Found., 809 F.3d at 542. As made abundantly clear during trial, the Attorney General has systematically failed to maintain the confidentiality of Schedule B forms.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/310021501/2016-04-21-Order-for-Judgment-Dckt-184-0

 

Wait for it..................

Somehow 175 countries signing an agreement will boil down to

"It is all about American politics"

 

Lols - case in point

This is an international agreement


Oh! What am I saying?

For the majority of denialists to actually see this as happening they would first have to acknowledge there is anything outside of the USA

Then they would have to acknowledge that this represents 175 different countries, each with it's own leaders, politicians and government - all of which had to be in on the conspiracy - not to mention the scientists (and even if that is only 10 scientists per government that means nearly 2000 people) all of whom are somehow either in on a massive conspiracy or they are collectively so wrong about the science that they are clueless

Guess which logic path the denialists will take?

Honestly it is more refreshing to argue with the flat earthers - at least they are consistent in their myths

 

Quit with your blatant arrogance. Are you also one of those that thinks politics is science like Vacuous [sic]?

 

Science is about predictions and the Climate Doomists always seem to be wrong. And a science discipline that consistently makes inaccurate predictions, it is our duty to laugh at them.

40 yrs ago on the first Earth Day:

Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” How is that prediction wearing 40 yrs on?

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.... And that one?

The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”... and that one?

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”... And that one?

“Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”.... And that one?

Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”... And that one?

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.... And that one?

Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”.... And that one?

In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….” And that one?

Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”... And that one?

Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.... It's almost like this is mostly bull(*)(*)(*)(*) or something

Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in his 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.... yeah and that one?

Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out.... mmmmmh

Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”.... okay...

Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.... And that one?

Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look that, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”.... And that one?

In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so, it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”.... He should have stuck to butterflies

Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”... These folks are like a modern day Nostradamus!

https://theartsmechanical.wordpress.com/2016/04/22/the-stuff-greens-keep-getting-wrong/

 

2016 King of Carbonation:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/IowahawkEarthDay?src=hash

 

You have yet to prove any of the science wrong because you have yet to supply a validated alternative theory to observable facts

You have GOT to be kidding!!

You are pulling a forty year old quote from "sum bloke sumwhere" as "evidence"



Get back to me when you have some valid refutation of a meta- analysis of the research

Not some unreferenced blog written by an anonymous poster and probably funded by the fossil fuel industry

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Here it comes - the dirty bedroom excuse

"But MUUUUUUUUUM! Why do I have to clean up MY room when Johnny doesn't clean up his?"

 

Consider the two options.

A. The WHOLE PLANET is engaged in a VastSecretGlobalSocialistPlot, and only a few brave genius freedom fighters here have uncovered the RealTruth.

or

B. The right-wing-fringe conspiracy cultists here got suckered again.

Dang. That's a tough one.

 

Noooooooo

That is because the planet looks like this

 

As usual, you prove again this is all about politics for you instead of science.

 

Logical fallacy. Lol

 

I would love to know WHOSE "politics" since it is so many countries signing - which political side is pushing this and where are they operating from

Somehow all of the trite catchphrases that have been banded about fall apart when it is international on this scale