Do Jews owe a debt to Poland?

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    Poland accepted many Jewish refugees, who were being expelled, or burned in Western Europe, during the Medieval era, and then granted them a Jewish civil rights movement in the Statute of Kalisz.

    Poland had the highest number of Righteous Among the Nations, who saved Holocaust Jews.

    Including Hernyk Slawik who saved 6,000 Holocaust Jews by faking passports, and he was hanged to death by Nazi Germany for.
    Including Eugene Lazowski the doctor who faked a typhus epidemic to allow 8,000 Jews to escape from the Nazis.
    Including Irena Sendler Krzyżanowska who saved 2,500 Jewish children, by smuggling them out of the Nazi German Warsaw Ghetto.
    Including Ferdynand Arczyński who took care of hiding 4,000 Jews from the Nazis.

    Polish Jan Karski warned the World about the Holocaust.

    Polish Witold Pilecki volunteered to be imprisoned at Auschwitz, so he could escape, and gather information of the Holocaust.

    Yet, in light of all of this, I typically find Jews show no gratitude towards Polish people, quite the opposite a lot of them seem to hate Polish people.
     
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    I'd thank the Poles, if it wasn't for this:

    In March 1968 student-led demonstrations in Warsaw (see Polish 1968 political crisis) gave Gomułka's government an excuse to try and channel public anti-government sentiment into another avenue. Thus his security chief, Mieczysław Moczar, used the situation as a pretext to launch an antisemitic press campaign (although the expression "Zionist" was officially used). The state-sponsored "anti-Zionist" campaign resulted in the removal of Jews from the Polish United Worker's Party and from teaching positions in schools and universities. In 1967–1971 under economic, political and secret police pressure, over 14,000 Polish Jews were forced to leave Poland and relinquish their Polish citizenship.[222] Officially, they were expelled to Israel. However, only about 4,000 actually went there; most settled throughout Europe and in the United States. The leaders of the Communist party tried to stifle the ongoing protests and unrest by scapegoating the Jews. At the same time there was an ongoing power struggle within the party itself and the antisemitic campaign was used by one faction against another. The so-called "Partisan" faction blamed the Jews who had held office during the Stalinist period for the excesses that had occurred, but the end result was that most of the remaining Polish Jews, regardless of their background or political affiliation, were targeted by the communist authorities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland#1967.E2.80.931989

    and this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom

    and this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraków_pogrom

    and this:

    Sporadic public anti-Jewish disturbances or riots were enticed by spread of false blood libel accusations against Jews in a dozen Polish towns – Kraków, Kielce, Bytom, Białystok, Bielawa, Częstochowa, Legnica, Otwock, Rzeszów, Sosnowiec, Szczecin, Tarnów[36][37][38] Acts of anti-Jewish violence were also recorded in villages and small towns of central Poland, where the overwhelming majority of attacks occurred.[1][39] According to Szaynok, the perpetrators of the anti-Jewish actions were seldom punished.
     
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    Funny that Mieczysław Moczar, and Gomułka both looked more Jewish, than Polish.

    Besides, the fact that Jakub Berman, and Salomon Morel were Soviet Jews who butchered Polish by the thousands, it's no wonder why some Polish wanted to get Jews out positions of power in Soviet Poland.

    As for Kielce Pogrom, even the anti-Polish Jewish guy Jan T Gross admits that the Soviet government heavily orchestrated it.
     
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    multiple pogroms.

    blood libel riots in 12 cities.

    tens of thousands of Jews kicked out of their jobs and stripped of their citizenship.

    now I know why Poles aren't loved by my people.

    after the Nazis were defeated, the nightmare continued in the Polish Republic.


    keep in mind, Poland is the ONLY nation in Europe that had any reported pogroms after WW2.
     
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    Keep in mind, Poland is the ONLY nation in Europe after WW2 that had Jews mass murdering, and mass oppressing that nation.

    6,000 Polish executed, and up to 500,000 Polish political prisoners imprisoned by Jewish Soviet Jakub Berman.

    Up to thousands of Polish killed, and enslaved in the Zgoda Labour camp by Jewish Soviet Salomon Morel.
     
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    blaim the Soviets, not the Jews.
     
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    1 Jew killed in the Krakow Pogrom.

    As opposed to 8,000 Jews saved by Polish doctor Eugene Lazowski who faked a typhus epidemic, allowing Jews to escape Nazi ghettos.

    No wonder why Polish don't like Jews so often.

    Seems Jews hold no gratitude.

    By the way, if this Krakow Pogrom killing 1 person, was a Pogrom, then Jews were killing Polish in Pogroms during WW2 too like in the Skidel Revolt, Koniuchy massacre,and the Massacre of Brzostowica Mała.

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    Blame Soviets?

    But, Jew Jakub Berman founded, and ran UB the Soviet Polish secret police, which terrorized Poland following WW2.
     
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    so 2 jews justify pogroms all over the country and the murder of hundreds, stripping citizenship from tens of thousands?

    sounds like you're just trying to justify hatred of Jews.

    shame on you
     
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    10's of thousands of Jews saved by Polish from the Holocaust.

    As opposed to a few dozen Jews killed in Kielce Pogrom, and the Krakow Pogrom.

    Hmmm, seems you Jews are just trying to justify your hatred of Polish.

    Shame on you.
     
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    no, you did that
     
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    About 1% of Poland was Jewish following WW2, yet 37% of the UB was Jewish following WW2, including head chief Jakub Berman, and second head Roman Romkowski.

    Might I point out that Roman Romkowski, along with Jozef Rozanski 2 Jews were responsible for sentencing Polish hero Witold PIlecki to death.

    Might I point out that Witold PIlecki volunteered to be imprisoned in Auschwitz, so he could gather information about the Holocaust, and document it in Witold's Report.

    Wow, what gratitude.
     
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    You would not even exist without Poland.

    Almost all Ashkenazi Jews came through Poland, at one point or another.

    Because almost all of Europe had been expelling Jews.

    Most Russian, and Ukrainian Jews are in fact Polish Jews, who transferred to Russia, and Ukraine following the Russian conquest of Poland.

    It seems most German Jews are also Polish Jews who migrated back to Germany, because Germany had a large series of nasty expulsions, that sent almost every Jew out of Germany, and into Poland.

    Like I said no gratitude.

    Poland should have NOT helped Jews.

    Never again, such a ungrateful people deserve no help.
     
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    The Soviets invaded Poland from the east, the Nazis from the west, and they both considered Poland unworthy of existing as a state. Interesting how two such diabolically opposed ideologies could agree on something like this.
     
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    Are you suggesting that Poland was worse than the Nazis, and the Soviets?

    Lol
     
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    no, I just find it fascinating that the Nazis and the Soviets both agreed that Poland was unworthy of existing.
     
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    Isn't it fascinating that historically almost everywhere Jews went people wanted to kill them, or expel them?
     
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    jealousy is a common human trait
     
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    I've found a lot more pro-Polish Germans, and pro-Polish Russians than pro-Polish Jews.

    Jews almost universally despise Polish.

    Even you kind of do.

    HBendor another Jew definitely does.

    It's no different here, than everywhere else I've seen Jews on the internet.

    Jews show absolutely no gratitude for what Polish have done for them.
     
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    luckily you don't represent most Polls.

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    you come here, spew racism against black people, declare yourself a Fascist, accuse non-racists of being psychopaths, and whine about not being appreciated?

    LOL!!!!
     
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    with all due respect, you have come to this forum spewing racism against black people, Western Europeans, Jews.

    You falsely accuse the Jews of being responsible for all Soviet repression, and use this lie to justify anti-Semitic attacks in Poland against Jews after WW2.

    You accuse anti-racists of being psychopaths.

    You admit to calling black people "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s".

    You attack Western Europeans.

    ...and now you demand that people thank you? you declare how unappreciated you feel?

    LOL!!!!!
     
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    don't expect anyone to thank you or appreciate you, when you attack so many people.

    you are a declared Fascist, and even was kicked out of Stormfront.

    maybe that should tell you something. maybe you enjoy causing problems and getting kicked out of forums, so you can feel unappreciated.
     
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    I think Polish people are unappreciated by Jews for the helping hand that Polish lent to Jews in their time of need.
     
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    you speak as though you think you are the quintessential Pole.

    spewing racism against blacks, Jews, western Europeans, non-racists.

    you justify pogroms and blood libels against Jews after WW2.

    why would such a person deserve gratitude from anyone?
     
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    I've never seen anyone kicked off a forum for being anti-Polish though.

    How come?

    On Stormfront you can bash Polish, and that's alright but don't bash Western Europeans.

    Everywhere else, you can bash Polish, and other Whites, but don't bash Jews, Blacks, Muslims, and Hispanics etc.

    The hypocrisy of Western society is truly ridiculous.
     

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