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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Last Night's mass shooting was a False Flag.I don't believe in
    coincidence.Like Aurora and the Theatre Shooting it was done by
    a person who was brainwashed.Our Government has the capability
    to do that.Our Government also has More than the ability to tamper
    with a crime scene.Make it appear as they prefer.As if a Lone gunman
    was totally provoked.More like totally brainwashed and set off like
    a robot.There is such capability.Don't kid yourself into thinking this
    was some lone gunman with as assault rifle.Now Obama has what he
    needs.He can just Issue a Gun order to Ban ALL assault rifles.
    Plus this event { placed nicely on a Saturday night so the Sunday shows
    can focus on Gun Laws }. It also diverts away from Hillary's myriad of
    legal problems and makes her look like a Woman's champion { because
    Hillary does want the Guns }.She's a Gun Grabber in waiting.
    That pleased many a woman.This event last night provides whatever
    the MSM is charged with making it.
    I don't believe in some Lone Gunman bullcrap.This was staged and
    made curtesy of our Corrupt,nefarious Agency's.I dunno ... probably
    some secret division of the CIA.This on the heels of General David
    Petraeus hooking-up with Gabby Giffords hubby { Mark Kelly } to go
    around the country and plead that our Military vets need more scrutiny
    in owning guns.using the excuse of a rash of Vets committing suicide.
    I say ... Petraeus is being used and possibly framed into this.
    When this OUT OF CONTROL Government wants something ...
    There is nothing stopping them.Like they wanted the Unemployment rate
    down ... so they got it.By Hook & Crook.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize that the Aurora Shooter { called The Joker } James Homes
    was seeing a psychologist and official documents pertaining to his life before
    his arrest were withheld.because he was being programmed.That's why the
    SWAT team needed to spend hours rummaging thru his apartment in order to
    take necessary evidence and plant the necessary evidence.He was acting like
    a Loon in jail because he'd been under super sensitive government mind control.
    Probably more intense than merely a therapist using NLP {neuro-linguistic programming }
    more like what the CIA has been known to use with MK-ULTRA.
    Where sophisticated memory implantation and hypno programming are used to great
    effect.rendering an individual unable to consciously control his thoughts and actions.
    Why was James Holmes found in his car,as if waiting after the attack.
    Why were all key witnesses kept for hours quarantined from seeing anyone.
    So they could be forced into believing that if they talk,they will be hounded.
    Some witnesses claimed they saw another shooter in the Theatre at the time.
    They saw 2 shooters.
     
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    This is so blatantly corrupted.There's no way on Earth you go from
    reporting 20 dead { nice rounded number } to 50 dead.In like 6-7 hours
    time.Plus 53 instead of 43 wounded.They are playing the numbers game.
    5 will getcha 10 there will never been an honest release of who the 50
    dead are.They are playing with numbers and lives.Because if they release
    Today { not 7 months from today via a Judicial Watch demand } the names
    of all 50 casualties then there could be an honest inquiry into those lives.
    This is the newest edition of Newtown.
     
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    See here's how it goes down ... folks.20 dead does not go down
    as big enough a number as most Historic mass Shooting in our Country.
    Where 50 dead clears that bar.
    Now the F.B.I. is acting as if the Subject " has not been positively identified ".
    Makes for more speculation as to what is being reported and what is being
    used for reporting.Now the police chief is backpeddling as to why the
    number was raised from 20 to 50.Saying that once the building has been
    cleared they have a better grip on the number of casualties.They had to
    clear and secure the bldg.Meaning ... Tamper with the Evidence ... folks.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see absolutely No tears or distraught looks on any of those people
    standing before the Microphone fielding questions.I'm sorry ... that's not how
    actual red-blooded americans react in the face of a catastrophe.
    Those people taking questions from the press seem like robots.
    Like this is some kind of training mauever.
    Unbelivable.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How odd should CBS use instead of their regular anchors a Guy from
    Justice and Homeland Security.A Correspondent from Justice and Homeland
    Security.That does it.This event is very mysterious.Reeks of similarities
    of Sandy Hook.
     
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    This is it Folks.How Martial Law is imposed.Now the State of Florida has
    issued a state of emergency.That is part of what the Bildergburgers want.
    In order to take over the country with Totalitarians like George Soros they
    need to make Martial law,easy to impose.Now,all it might take is a Phoning in.
    Some nutcase or Terror group phones-in a Terror threat and an entire state
    is put on lock down.Like they have been practicing with many public schools.
    Like in California.Impose martial law,confiscate guns from legal,law-abiding
    citizens and Voila.The country turns into Germany circa the late 1930's.
    Have the wrong papers and more Voila.
     
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    Again ... more Narrative.CBS and anchor Pelfry { very red-eyed as if was
    awoken early to memorize marching orders } stated that the Incident
    was first noticed by a cop working the club who heard shots and was
    engaged with the shooter and was wounded.That cop at the club reported
    the weapon used.An AR-15.Then Scott Pelfry went on an explanation rant
    as to the shooting power of an AR-15.
    This isn't about any Muslim shooter.This is all about Assualt Rifles.
    This is what Obama needed.Look for Obama to flat out demand a Ban
    on assault weapons.That to own one will be a Felony,no matter if legally
    bought and registered.He will Ignore Congress.
     
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    paranoid nonsense.

    Islamists hate the USA, The West, and they REALLY hate Gays.

    this shooting was very good for Trump.

    so if this was a False Flag, Trump orchistrated it.
     
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    Which begs the question since the MSM is focusing a lot of attention on that
    fact it was an Assualt Rifle { AR-15 or AK-47 } ? They should have the weapons
    by now and know where they were bought legally or originated from.
    Or if they were stolen { there was also a hand pistol }.That will help some.
    If this Guy WAS some Terrorist or sympathizer and purchased an assault rifle with ease,
    then there's the smoking gun.Obama will make his Assualt weapon plea.
     
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    THERE IT IS! The radical Islamic hatred towards gays leading the a horrific terrorist attack on American soils is trumps fault. Meanwhile, Obama was golfing again while radical Islam was planning more terrorist attacks against Americans.
     
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    I guess I am wronged as far as this being an act of Muslim { Islamic }
    Terrorism.But then that could easily have been the reason this guy was used.
    Why would a healthy,not bad looking man in his prime { 29 yr,old }
    sacrifice his life.Plus why the Bullet proof vest,if he was on a suicide mission.
    How did he get into this super soft target with his weapons w/o being noticed.
    I'm not convinced the Tsarmaev are guilty.They never showed a lick of proof
    as to those 2 young men,setting down a pressure cooker bomb { in a backpack ? }.
    They said that was there proof.They { who they ? } also denied they had training
    exercises that morning with agents { dressed like agents } at spots where the explosion
    occurred.Plus the Martial law imposed did nothing to capture the one kid.
    A neighbor ended up reporting he saw a man go hide in a boat in a backyard.
    They could easily have tear gassed him.But no ... they made it so that he lost his
    voice { vocal cords }. Makes for a silent subject.
    I still maintain this was somehow inspired or choreographed in order to
    make a Gun Grab.Which Obama made.Plus this guy held a security guard
    weapons permit.Sounds like a George Zimmerman wanabee.maybe that's the
    case they'll make.See ... even guys like a George Zimmerman who own a conceal carry
    permit can pull off something like this.Something is not right with this entire thing.
    Plus of course Obama,as usual Failed to admit the case of Islamic Terrorism.
    Because now that this is Historic,it's The Worst Gun Killing ever in this country
    and it happened on Obama's watch.Maybe Obama will use that as reason to demand
    an Assualt gun ban.
     
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    " He communicated that with an Assualt Rifle ! " -- N.Y.Times
    Ending sentence of their diatribe against the shooter.
    What comes first the assault rifle or the Religion.
    I don't know about you'all but an awfull lot of decent,law-abiding citizens
    own and purchased Assualt rifles who never dreamed of hurting as much as
    a fly with it.use it at the range for sport shooting.
    Like in Trap shooting { once an Olympic sport }.Olympic Trap Shooting Event has
    a history over one hundred years old.
    My Grandfather was a gun collector.Had 2 hunting lodges.He also had an
    expensive Pipe collection.You can learn to demonize just about anyone and
    thing given this duplicitous Mainstream media.They are the ones who are
    treacherous.I never knew until recently that a Rifle could be treacherous.
    Doesn't it win wars and end conflicts.Stops the bad guys and saves communities
    by effectively protecting life and property as in the Old West.
     
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    .... because NOBODY does anything themselves that might be in their "own interests". It HAS to be a conspiracy :roll:
     
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    I think it's called " peer pressure ". How else does a Nation { United States }
    decide like almost overnight to legally change the Definition of " Marriage ".
    50 years ago that mindset would have had someone locked up in a loony bin.
    Today most all Politics involve some form of " peer Pressure " " Identity Politics "
    or flat out Conspiracy in waiting.
    Is BlackLivesMatter for Real. of course not.It's entirely " Identity Politics ".
    is the 2012 DNC platform a War on Women ... anything BUT " Identity Politics ".
    Conspiracy theories break thru the B.S. and cuts to the chase.
    Like Judge Judy is fond of saying.If it doesn't sound right it probably Isn't.
     
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    Conspiracies and Judge Judy :D
     
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    I admit to the possibility that this may well have been a false flag operation. It seems a little too convenient, an american ISIL sympathizer who kills more people in a mass shooting then anyone has previously done. I definitely don't believe the official stories of Sandy Hook and the Aurora shooter, which certainly makes this event suspicious.
     
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    Why was that Initial Cop on duty who tried to halt this Terrorist gunman
    merely slightly wounded.How come he isn't making statements.Is whoever
    in charge of this gonna make some declaration that that Initial Cop who was
    on hand at PULSE will be forbidden to talk.That's one way you know something is
    Fishy.That's a partial cover-up.
     
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    Don't know.

    Again, don't know :p.

    I'm not sure if this initial cop thing is important, or evidence of anything in particular. For starters, I think it'd be good to atleast have a name, I'm not going to google "initial cop", laugh :p.

    That being said, there's already an article up with some reasons to question the official story of the Orlando Shooting:
    http://www.thelastamericanvagabond....ons-question-official-story-orlando-shooting/
     
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    Again ... Why this F.B.I. is allowed to skate when in point of fact,it was THEIR
    responsibility to check and double check the status of a possible very disgruntled
    American Muslim whose Father had huge support for the Taliban.
    This F.B.I. is not at all the same F.B.I., that Jimmy Stewart played in the :
    - The FBI Story - { 1959 }. They are not to be trusted.They infiltrate organizations
    in order to plant evidence and then Bust to cop some Glory.So they are trained at
    that sort of doubling dealing.KInda like the case in Boston of Whitey Bulger.
    Just watch the new movie starring Johnny Depp as Bulger.See how the F.B.I.
    actually enabled Bulger for years as he murdered,dealt drugs and ran numbers.
    Bulger was used by the F.B.I. as an Informant on the Boston Mafia.
    If that made any sense.The F.B.I. felt the Mafia was more important to
    nab than some lower crime boss like Bulger.At least that was excuse the F.B.I.
    was making.Protect and not bust Bulger,because he could help the F.B.I. gather
    a case against the Boston Cosa Nostra.But Bulger was arguably engaged in more
    and deadlier Crime in Boston than the mafia.
    Frankly our F.B.I. is practically Evil. I had a relative who was an F.B.I. suit.
    That was as a kid in the 50's,60's.The guy was not married and never home.All he did
    was work and never talk about his job.
     
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    I certainly don't trust the FBI. I don't have a relative who worked at the FBI, but I certainly know of Sibel Edmonds, who worked briefly as a translator for the FBI shortly after 9/11. For a brief summary of her life in the whistleblower community, I think wikipedia's introduction of her is quite good:
    **Sibel Deniz Edmonds is a former translator who worked as a contractor for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and founder of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). Edmonds gained public attention following her firing from her position as a language specialist at the FBI's Washington Field Office in March 2002. She had accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals, alleged serious security breaches and cover-ups and that intelligence had been deliberately suppressed, endangering national security. [1][2][3] Her later claims gained her awards and fame as a whistleblower.[4]

    She is the founder and publisher of the Boiling Frogs Post, an online media site that aims to offer nonpartisan investigative journalism.[5] In March 2012, she published a memoir, titled Classified Woman – The Sibel Edmonds Story.[6]**

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds

    Her book "Classified Woman" is an eye opener, and details how many of the top people in her part of the organization were corrupt to the core. For those in the audience, here's the website for her book:
    http://www.classifiedwoman.com/
     
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    Let's not also forget it was Our F.B.I. who slacked off and didn't follow up on
    their tracking of those noted Saudi who were here On Visa's and ended up being
    the ones who flew the planes on 9/11. They were being monitored by the F.B.I.
    while Clinton was President.They overstayed their Visas and engaged in taking
    flying lessons from some cheap flight school in Florida.The F.B.I. also blew
    that one.Like Big Time.
    Able Danger, the highly classified Military effort to coordinate and gather
    intelligence of Transnationals and possible terror cells was forbidden to even be
    mentioned by Politicians.In fact,Bill Clinton { as Former President seemed really
    aggressive at going after anyone who dared to bring it up }. Because it was On
    Clinton's watch that Able Danger Identifed cells, and nailed a few responsible for
    the plane attacks on 9/11. Clinton didn't want any more grief and public awakening
    over the fact,that On His Watch those Transnationals got Visas and trained for
    9/11 while Overstaying those Visas.To this day,hardly any mention of Able Danger.
    Except for the occasional brave appearance of Colonel Anthony Shaffer on Fox.
    The Pentagon was behind the cover-up as well making sure Shaffer was forbidden
    to testify before The Senate Judiciary.Colonel Shaffer had his security clearance
    suspended for daring to make Able Danger an issue.So,this Government,Our
    Government has ways of protecting those who fail at their job.They Cover up
    the mistakes and blunders.Or guys like Slick Willy make fall guys out of those
    brave and dedicated Americans like Colonel Shaffer who did their job and just
    wanted it part of the public record as far as Able Danger uncovering terror cells.
     
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    You're assuming that the goal of those in charge at the FBI was to stop them.

    I'm not sure how much Bill Clinton was to blame, but yeah, I've heard of Able Danger and the brass' attempt to shut him up.
     
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