Nuclear nightmare as the only way the Russian Fuhrer

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    Nuclear nightmare as the only way the Russian Fuhrer

    The Russian Fuhrer Putin has no other way but to push the world into the abyss of a nuclear nightmare. The fact is that even if the would-be guarantor of the independence of Ukraine America with Britain will hand it to Putin, this will not stop the revenge-seekers. Putin is no other way except the constant war, in peace because the Russian people lost. The economic and political isolation of Russia, and the main pathological inability of the Russian people to the labor management, coupled with disregard for the laws of the market in terms of democracy is so hated by the people completely hurl the economy. Close to such a situation, Russia was already the end of the Brezhnev era. Russia expects famine, chaos and ruthless popular revolt. So beloved leader of the people will be the first crucified on the gates of the Kremlin. Russia and its people - this, miraculously lived up to our days, a monster from the era of dinosaurs, devour itself. Putin has no choice how to use the readiness of the Russian people in prison for the sake of the well-known component of the national mentality - Great-Russian chauvinism, to continue the violent return of the former Russian colonies. But then what? And then, again, the inevitable chaos and famine? Do not say that Putin, and now the guys move on the peaceful labor, that is, that lizard is not peculiar. Did the Russian people can do something good for the relief of human life except Kalashnikov? To make good TV, computer, appliance, elementary, is not peculiar to the Russian people, but to make the murder weapon is the only thing to which a Russian soul.
    I have already pointed out the fundamental differences of Hitler's Nazism from Russian (1). If Hitler had planned to teach the conquered peoples to the German order, then what about the Russian order can be discussed! There are nuclear club, and there is a rich hate the West ... In short, the world awaits the inevitable nuclear nightmare.
    Late in the West itself nurtured the serpent, in the hope that Russia will choose the democratic path. This incompetent cowboy from the policies of George W. Bush, who called Putin not only as one - Putin (2), bears full guilt and not only to the American people, but also to the whole civilized community, that did not understand what Russia and the Russian people.
    Once again cite the eastern proverb:
    "Treat for milk snake,
    anyway, that the poison to save it "

    1. Great Russian chauvinism, and Putin, his Führer. http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/21133.html
    2. Camel for the president. http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/5271.html

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    Do you understand what you write?[​IMG]
    what Hitler wanted to teach " the conquered peoples" ?



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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-soros-idUSKCN0Z629H

     
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    I am lithuanian, I have good knowledge of recent history from my grandparents, parents and older relatives. People calling Putin a fuhrer are rather... late on the train. What is happening in East Europe is nothing new. Putin stated his ideal view on world as a recreation of Soviet Union with all it's "might"even before becoming president, he even came to state something between the lines of "russians need theyr Tsar". What he did is nothing new in terms of politics and centralization of power in country/realm. Even his toughest critic was shot at his doorstep almost immediately as Putin's rating was sky rocketing. Sadly, people in Russia are rather content with filtered out/biased information media, hate and fear for west world, absence of liberty of mind as it is portrayed as an act against motherland, Kremlin's inability to contain it's worldwide influence and resorting to open military violence on mass scales to do so. Even national athlets were turned into subjects of institutionalised drug abuse in sake of what, medals? Doesn't that beat the whole purpose of sport? Worst of all that world is so cricked that it seems the best way to go for ex-super power.
     
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    you are a little cheated.

    let see roller from 1:10
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    Putin's words:
    Who does not regret the collapse of the Soviet Union - he has no heart.

    Who want to restore it (Soviet Union ) to the same vision - he has no head.
     
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    Okay, you are right and you have a proof to go along with your opinion.
    However, it does negate the open aggression by Kremlin towards ex-soviet block members. Just because Putin claims that history is not ment to be repeated doesn't mean he is not going for "SSRS v2.0".
     
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    1..."Nuclear nightmare as the only way the Russian Fuhrer" and "going for "SSRS v2.0".
    these are different things.

    2...You attribute to Putin your assumptions. :smile:
    Well. Let assuming this is the case. (As you said. )

    accurate please.
    You want to say that Putin wants to drive the "ex-soviet block members" ....into the Soviet Union ...against their will?
     
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    Is there a politician today who believe the words of Putin liar.
     
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    1….You have shown only one concrete example of Putin's deception. Cheating, when Putin said that " a little green men "- this is not Russian soldiers.

    It is not enough to call Putin a liar. Besides, no one was hurt by this lie.
    2… American presidents lied bigger. About chemical weapons in Iraq. As a result - the state of Iraq has turned into "pieces".

    The US president lied that NATO will not be closer to Russia's borders.
     
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    Finally, the West found a policy that defined Russia as a source of military danger. New British Prime Minister Theresa May directly pointed at Russia, threatening the security of the UK.
     
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    Yes!!!
    Russia wants to send to London "little green men" ... to organize a referendum on the accession of England to Russia.

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    You announced the dreams and fantasies of President Putin. He sees Europe chopped and submissive.
     
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    This is bad?
    Assume that this is so. But .... Putin wants it - Obama have got it already .
    Do you think that Obama - the bad boy?
     
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    UK the first country in Europe to respond to the Putinum started the arms race, taking the project of construction of nuclear submarines. It is time Europe itself will take care of security, and not to shift their security on the shoulders of America.
     
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    Putin is no "Hitler" he is a "Russian Nationalist" (and there is nothing wrong with being a Nationals). Russia is under attack from so many Western States The EU & the USA are still mentally fighing a Cold War that ended more than 25 years ago. The Borders of the Warsaw pact have now gone & the Russian influence has massively withdrawn on so many fronts. NATO have taken up most of that territory (despite their promises they would not).

    Putin is in no way a Saint, but he is a great leader of the Russian people & my goodness they need one as over & over again the Western Governments (egged on by their Coporate masters) keep pushing at the Russian Borders.

    Russia is a proud sovereign Nation & if the West keeps trying to bully them then it is no surprise that a Nuclear war is possible.

    Russia is NOT a treat to anyone in the West, so I say leave them alone. In fact I say lets stop adding sanctions against them & try & lets all be friendly & trade equally with each other, respect each other for our differences. And stop the US-led war attitudes that will surely lead our World into trouble.

    Sure we can defend ourselves in a robust way & prepare for any threats. BUT Russia is NOT a threat to us, unless we make them one.
     
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    In fact I woud like to see, once Britain leaves the EU & thier draconian sanctions against Russia that the UK has a free & open trade deal with them... Trouble is I'm afraid our UK politicians are too ignorant to see that as a sensible possibility. Given the recent coments for Mrs May. Sad but true.
     
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    Did NATO occupied "that territory" with violence? Post-Warsaw countries willingly joined NATO to collectively protect against antidemocratic threads.

    Did NATO sign Memorandum against joining new members? There`s no such Memorandum, but Russians whine about "NATO reneges its promise".

    Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum against aggression, against military invasion to Ukraine, but Russia violated that.

    Russia had invaded, occupied and after that organized false Referendum and illegally annexed part of Ukraine. Russia oppresses Crimean minorities.

    Putin is doing like Hitler with Nazi-annexation.
    Putin says by Hitler`s words backing occupation and annexation: https://youtu.be/HLNa7XCmnDg?t=45

    As it was in the 1938, there`re some people who advocate such crimes. Such people say: "Nazi-Germany/Russia is not a treat to anyone", "Hitler/Putin is in no way a Saint, but he is a great leader of the German/Russian people", "nazi-Germany/Russia is under attack from so many Western States", "lets all be friendly & trade equally with each other, respect each other for our differences, despite nazi/Russians oppress other minorities and violate the Law".

    Russians as nazi-Germans are looking for another Munich Agreement to legalize their crimes.
    But appeasement for aggressor is leading to failure. Aggressor perceives only the strength.
     
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    Did Hitler hold a referendum on the annexation of Czechoslovakia? No he did not. Did Russia hold a referendum on Crimea re-joining the Russian motherland? Yes they did.

    Did the US hold a referendum on invading Iraq, Afghanistan or supporting air raids on the Lybian people??? No they did NOT.

    So the only "Nuclear Nightmare" in this World will come from the war mongers in the US establishment. The Biggest war mongers since ancient Rome & Genghis khan. No doubt about that!
     
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    Referendum had no legal warranty because of Russian invasion. Referendum had no legal monitoring, so its results are untrusted.

    Referendum is the charade during invasion of Russian Troops.

    Ukraine calls Russian troops ‘invasion’, 1.03.14

    Russian invasion before Referendum:
    [video=youtube;tSJiNRuPmgc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSJiNRuPmgc[/video]

    Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum:

    -Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty and the existing borders.
    -Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
    -Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
    -Seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression


    Russia also singned the Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation:

    In accord with provisions of the UN Charter and the obligations of the Final Act on Security and Cooperation in Europe, the High Contracting Parties shall respect each other′s territorial integrity and reaffirm the inviolability of the borders existing between them.

    Russia violated every of this agreements.

    And some people say: "that`s Ok, Russia has the right to occupy and annex as Nazi did, Russians have the right to violate the Budapest Memorandum", "Let`s all be friendly & trade equally with each other, respect each other for our differences, despite Russians oppress other minorities and violate the Law", "Let`s have another Munich".
     
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    What a dumb post.

    Check this map:

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    You can say "black is the white", "war is the peace".
    Nazi in 1938-39 also said they didn`t violated any argeements, they didn`t any occupation, any oppression - they just liberated people in Europe.

    1) Russian troops invaded Ukraine - this is against Budapest Memorandum
    2) Russia break boarders of Ukraine, illegally annexed part of Ukraine - this is against Budapest Memorandum

    European Parliament resolution:

    the Russian Federation has illegally annexed Crimea and Sevastopol and therefore violated international law, including the UN Charter, the Helsinki Final Act, the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and the 1997 Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine

    targeted abuses have been registered against the Tatar community, the majority of which opposed the Russian takeover and boycotted the so-called referendum on 16 March 2014, particularly through the enforcement of Russia’s vague and overly broad ‘anti-extremist’ legislation to intimidate or silence critics; whereas these abuses include abduction, forced disappearance, violence, torture and extrajudicial killings that the de facto authorities have failed to investigate and prosecute

    Crimean Tatar leaders, such as Mustafa Dzhemiliev, a member of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, and Refat Chubarov, the Chairman of the Mejlis, were banned from entering Crimea; whereas they are currently allowed to enter, but under threat of arrest; whereas a Russian court has now issued an arrest warrant for Mustafa Dzhemiliev, who earlier spent 15 years in Soviet prisons for his efforts to allow his nation to return to their native land in Crimea

    all religious communities, including Christian churches independent of Moscow, have had restrictions put on their activities; whereas these difficulties are due to the severe restriction of the freedom of association, expropriations, the non-extension of documents, and regular searches conducted in the remaining premises of these religious organisations

    Russia has been restricting access to Crimea for the OSCE, the UN, and the Council of Europe, not to mention human rights NGOs and independent journalists; whereas the lack of access makes human rights monitoring and reporting in Crimea very difficult
     
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