Supreme Court won’t revive Obama plan to shield illegal immigrants from deportation

The Supreme Court handed President Obama a significant legal defeat Thursday, refusing to revive his stalled plan to shield millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation and give them the right to work legally in the United States.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ea5f1e-3950-11e6-9ccd-d6005beac8b3_story.html

 

Excellent.
NO one who sneaks in deserves to be shielded from anything
Staying low for a few years doesn't make the crime any less.

NO Amnesty.
NO 'Path to Citizenship.'
NO dropping a baby and the 'reuniting.'
NO more incentives to sneak in.
Amnesty after Amnesty has made the problem worse, and changed/warped the demographics and political composition of the country.

And e-Verify must be put in effect.
NO National ID, NO JOB.
EmployER sanctions (Fines and/or JAIL) for hiring an illegal.
We don't have to "Round up 11 million" anything. (the usual BS excuse)
They WALK back across with no way to make money here.
No "Wall" needed.
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ILLEGAL ALIENS

Thought, I'd correct you, just a little.

 

That is very kind of you. You do understand that you are correcting the OP by the Washington Post, don't you? There is a difference between "undocumented" and "illegal" as well as between "immigrants" and "aliens" but you must know all this in your position of post corrector. I'll bet you hate the little buggers too.

 

But of course I know the difference firsthand, having jumped through many hoops and legally immigrating here decades ago. Adds to my dislike of ... How did you call them... Ah yes, little buggers. How insensitive of you.

 

If Trump gets in, he's going to have to be careful how he handles this. It doesn't make political or economic sense to deport well-integrated families with several US-born kids; it would just be an unnecessary cruelty. Eventually, we would have a lot of disaffected adult citizens with no acculturation returning from who knows where and who knows what indoctrination to move freely about the country.

Hopefully Trump will just focus on exporting criminals and families composed totally of non-workers that are here to exploit US citizens and taxpayers, and work up a decent time-limited work visa system that does not give our best jobs away to desperate foreigners.

 

Well, for starters, there isn't going to be a President Trump, so what he might do is moot. What will happen is going to be dictated by money not ideas. Creating the necessary police state to round up twelve million people is beyond anything Congress would appropriate money for. It would create chaos in the economy and produce situations which the American pea pull would not tolerate.

The answer is as obvious and as unavoidable now as it was when Reagan gave amnesty to millions of similar migrants. The nativism exploited by right wing politicians is already a disaster for the GOP. The propaganda lie is that Republicans have been blocking immigration reform because it includes amnesty. The truth is that they have been blocking migration for because it is a useful way to stir up the base. But now the GOP has reached the point where the political benefits are outweighed by the rapidly growing political costs. It is time to cut and run. If a guy as dumb as Reagan could figure that out, surely a boy genius like Mr. Ryan can follow in the footsteps of the Gipper.

 

the correct LEGAL definition for them is "illegal alien" on government forms and agencies dealing with them... but why take my word for it, see the goverments word...

https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/illegal-aliens-decision.pdf

I mean just look this past March 2016 the library of congress is now being forced to be politically correct, and modify the terms they've used for centuries to define illegal aliens, because our government bills and text identify them as "illegal aliens" but the politically correct crowd has been pushing to change that to soften their image... its a sad day when a library can't define something as it legally is, because the president passes an executive order to redefine them in some government situations, but the executive order can't be used to redefine the term in all the bills voted on and passed, its just the outlying agencies where they can redefine them...

"undocumented immigrant" is what people trying to manipulate the emotion and change the view of them have been pushing... its not the LEGAL text in our bills...

P.S. just in case you want to report "illegal aliens" to the government, see below... funny how Obama couldn't change the term in all government operations...

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/735/~/reporting-illegal-activity

 

I thank you for your awesome expertise in clarifying this terminology. "Legal" vs "illegal" is (surprise!) a legal status. Legislation describes issues arising from persons being in one category or other. The surprising technical issue which so many folks don't understand but which you illuminate so brilliantly is that individual status is a judicial process. Little José is presumed innocent (i.e. "legal") until he is determined to be guilty (i.e. "illegal"). This determination must be made by one of those Judge fellas, you know, the guys in the black dresses. Sherife Arpaio can't make that determination of status out the window of his cop cruiser just because little José is wearing a sombrero grande and dancing the tapatío. Liberals attach great importance to what they consider "the legal process," a farcical bit of nit picking by law guys that will disappear once President Trump gives the green light to the local white nationalist vigilantes. In the meantime, your precise legal analysis of the current mess does much to explain how we got to this sorry pass. Thanks

 

None of this conflict would be necessary if Congress did its job and passed a comprehensive immigration bill. Obama's not the problem. Congress is.

 

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Overall, you are correct but Obama is NOW, part of the problem.