"Buyers Remorse" in England?

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  1. flylooper

    flylooper New Member

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    Looks like the English are taking another look a what they just did which, of course, was to buy into all the fear tactics poeple like Johnson and Farage have been feeding the public.

    We Yanks ought to take a lesson from the UK. Fear is a powerful sales tactic and no one does it better than that character with the orange thing on top of his head.
     
  2. Brewskier

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    They got by without an EU for over a thousand years. They actually became the strongest country in the world without being part of the EU. I think they will be just fine not being forced to subsidize moocher countries like Greece and Romania and forced to accept refugees from the Middle East.
     
  3. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What fear tactic do you think he's pushing? Is it blocking illegals from entering our country? Is is banning middle eastern refugees since ISIS has openly stated they're coming disguised as refugees? Is it the fear of bringing jobs back from Mexico and other foreign countries? Is it the fear of reforming the horrible healthcare that was forced on Americans? I'd like to know what you see as pushing fear on Trump's behalf.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please provide some evidence that the UK was being forced to accept refugees from the Middle East. Do you understand that the UK was not part of any agreement forcing refugees from the Middle East or any where else on us.
     
  5. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's been, what, four days? Nobody is backpedaling. How stupid and how convenient that the NYT picked up on this one as quick as they could. All liberals were hoping the UK would stay in the EU. Now they're pushing fear tactics and the OP, who has ironically complained about fear tactics by the right, has fallen for it.
     
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    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/346ba28a-10b8-11e6-bb40-c30e3bfcf63b.html#axzz4CnV1hVZ2

     
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    friday stock market had UK losing 3.15%... france 6.2%.. germany 6.8%

    today monday has it Uk losing 2.5%.... france 3.4% and germany 3.5%

    what we see is the money is betting on that the immigration issue harms and UK stopping the immigration issue is harmed less and germany bringing the immigration issue the most harmed the most
     
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    That argument is totally wrong. First for a thousand year? I don't think so. Second, England had an empire which stretched around the globe for a hundred or more years, in order to maintain its mercantilist economics. Third, the world is completely different that it was even 80 years ago. The planet is now interdependent. No country can go ir alone and hope to be prosperous.

    The OVERIDING fear on the part of the Leavers was "sovereignty." But that's just a dog whistle word for hoards of Poles and other eastern Europeans coming into England.
     
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    "Is is banning middle eastern refugees since ISIS has openly stated they're coming disguised as refugees?'

    had he said that I think he would of got a better response then to ban Mulsims

    Still waiting for Trump to tell his own corps to hire American again....

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    You are right except that it was the UK that had the empire not England. And this vote has virtually assured the UK will split up.
     
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    How can they have buyer's remorse just a few days after the vote when nothing has happened yet?
     
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    Don't confuse him with facts.
     
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    ireland... sweden.. denmark...finland all going down hard with the stock market much worse than UK who has left it

    ICELAND who said NO to the UNION is the only one gaiining in the stock marker


    we see MERKEL has made a monstrous ERROR and her not resigning will only harm euro

    ireland all of the nordic nations must secede also to survive
     
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    If you think nothing has happened, you've been living in a cave for the last few days,

    Stock markets all over the world have fallen sharply, The GBP lost ten percent of its value in hours.

    The Prime Minister suddenly resigned, the first time that has happened in 40 years.

    Two and a half million people have signed a petition to hold the vote over.

    Prices are already going up in the UK.

    Scotland and Ireland are talking about voting to seceede.

    But, according to you "nothing has happened"

    The flat earth right wing types made the same pathetic excuses when they backed Ted Cruz's scheme to force the US to default on its obligations and the financial markets reacted accordingly.

    While folks like you tried to pretend it was no big deal, or that what happened either didn't happen at all, or was caused by something else, the public got the lesson, and Cruz's stunt helped insure the re election of the President in 2014.

    That's where this is headed too.
     
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    Cameron and company used fear tactics to attempt to make their case as well. Are you incapable of recognizing when those you agree with do what you criticize those you disagree for doing, or do you just grant those you agree with a pass? Either way, your post is an utter failure. Try again.
     
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    It appears you are correct.
    The UK is one of 3 countries out of the 27 that have discretion over the EU's immigration program. It just so happens that they, on their case-by-case basis, have been accepting massive amounts of immigration from the Arab world.

    So let's hope the UK starts making better choices, like they did last week. Cameron being gone is a good start.
     
  18. Steve N

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    And all that happened even though nothing has changed since the vote. It's all reactionary even though they are still currently in the EU.
     
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    The UK being in the EU still is a matter of legal logistics, laws need to be passed, treaty obligations need to be met, etc. The UK is gone, it just needs time to untangle itself. If you KNOW something is going to happen, you don't wait for it to actually happen before you react.
     
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    More like whiner's remorse. The vote was completely lawful and binding. I pity the world of the future if these whiny millennials and skirt wearing Scots want a do over every times things don't go their way...
     
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    What are you people going to whine about when the Brits fare so much better after breaking away from the eu. Look at it this way: you may struggle some when you finally move out of mommy's basement , but without all her rules and regulations you can thrive.
     
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    Sterling, stocks take another Brexit hit; oil, yen rise...
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    Banks pull stocks lower as Brexit continues global rout
    June 27, 2016 - Britain's shock vote to leave the European Union roiled global markets for a second day on Monday, hammering U.S. and European banks, lifting bond and gold prices, and dragging the British pound to a 31-year low.
     
  23. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Only 250,000 pounds for every refugee they turned away. Do middle eastern refugees not count as refugees? You should know this, you're actually in the UK. Let me guess, 18 to 24 years old?
     
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    That is what he said. Our Intelligence Dept has confirmed that ISIS said they're going to be disguised as refugees.
     
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    Leave it to the NYT to find this rubbish on the corners of their mouths and try to spread it because they know the Brexit final helps Trump.
     

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