PreteenCommunist - ask me anything ^.^

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  1. PreteenCommunist

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    Shamelessly ripping off AboveAlpha here, but whatevah. I can't sleep. Ask me crap.

    Please be nice and don't throw rotten fruit at me.
     
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    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    How did you come about supporting communism when you have not lived in a true communist regime?

    Would you rather live in China or Soviet Union rather than the EU?
     
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    Do you know your history? Do you know about Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong?

    Would you work 12 hours a day and give all your resources to helping people who sit in their backside every day?
     
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    Once upon a time I was young and ignorant (well, younger and more ignorant) and I supported the social democratic party in my country. Then I realised how it had engineered the economic crisis and found out what tax-spend-welfare economics actually does to capitalist economies. After that I became pretty disillusioned with everything and started noticing more and more that nothing was working, there were deep-rooted problems in our social and economic organisation, and capitalism was not allowing people to live fulfilling lives or making good use of our ample resources - at least, not anymore. I started reading a lot, stumbled across anarchism, was sort of an anarchist for a few months and then plunged into Marxism after reading some critiques, studying the Spanish Civil War and reassessing my values and interests.

    Nope; China and the Soviet Unions were/are particularly bureaucratic and mismanaged forms of capitalism. Modern China is quite nice, but there's no denying that it is well and truly capitalist, and not even state capitalist anymore. It's just a capitalist autocracy.

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    I'd say so. Obviously I don't know everything and I'm not a historian but I think my understanding of the Soviet Union and China is pretty sound.

    Of course not.
     
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    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    Can you name a communist regime in the past that worked?

    If you could implement communism in your country, how would it work? And please don't say everyone is equal and gets equal share of resources...
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In Dawn of Justice, if all Clarke needs to do is wear glasses to not be recognized, why can't Bruce do likewise ?
     
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    You're from the Balkans which was kept behind due to Communism,

    So, how come you're a Communist?

    Or do you believe the Balkans is economically behind not because of Communism, but due to inferiority?

    That's obviously nonsense, the Balkans is much like Greeks by DNA.

    It's truly Communism which kept your people back.
     
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    Nope. The closest we had was the Paris Commune, some parts of Spain during the Civil War and Soviet Russia before 1921-ish, and even those were just proto-dictatorships of the proletariat. But we can pinpoint why the revolutions - or coups in many cases - failed. And republicanism (small-r) was an utter failure until the middle of the second millenium CE. Systems need the right conditions to succeed.

    Don't worry, that equality guff is Lassallean socialism, not communism. Check out my blog posts (on this site) and ask if you have any more specific questions.

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    Sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about :/
     
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    I'm not actually from the Balkans; I just happen to speak pretty good Croatian/Bosnian/Serbian/Montenegrin. I'm a bit of a Balkanophile though.

    Slovenia and Croatia, at least, are doing pretty well, and Serbia's doing fine, even if it is shrinking. FYR Macedonia is the only country which has really been having issues post-yu. And anyway, Yugoslavia was never communist; it had a coup by a little militarised sect (the Partizans), was a bog-standard ("bog" is Serbo-Croatian for "god" funnily enough) mismanaged state capitalist country for a while, and then after the Tito-Stalin split it went down its own weird little path of samoupravljanje or autogestion, which involved pandering to the petit-bourgeoisie - who still existed - and pretending that the state did not still have substantial economic sway.
     
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    Hi! How are you?
     
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    I read your blog posts and it is intelligibly written, a good fantasy that as you say needs the right time to be able to work. I also like your writing style, may I suggest a website called WATTPAD that allows people to self publish stories. Unfortunately, I would say that you are a little naïve about people and their motives and tendencies. There will always be good and bad in every race and culture. There is always someone trying to game the system. You also remind me of my youngest daughter who is a pre-teen and has a keen mind.

    catherine.jpg

    She is considering writing for a living, I may have her read your blog and maybe you and her can talk.
     
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    Hey, I'm well thanks; I've been very unproductive lately though and kinda feel bad *gulps*

    You?
     
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    I spent 11 hours yesterday playing a video game. Nonstop. Didn't even finish it until today. I am dead inside. But I'm glad to hear you're well. Why are you unproductive?
     
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    Thanks, glad you enjoyed the posts :) I do write some other stuff; I have three guest articles lined up, and if you google "Commissaress" (that's the pen name I use) you can see some of the literary stuff I've done.

    I have issues with the whole idea of good and bad, being a non-cognitivist and all, but I'd say that people trying to game the system mostly do so because said system has either outlived its utility - as capitalism has now - or because it is against the class interests of the people in question. This won't be an issue in communism, where there is no longer a class struggle. And even if there are people who are nuisances, any system can cope with nuisances. Endemic contradictions are what cause systems to fail. Such as those present in capitalism.
     
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    From Wiki:

    If you look at history, communism isn't as great as people say is it?

    So you're against wealth distribution and the welfare state then?
     
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    Haha, at least you finished it. That's dedication right there!

    I don't even know. Today I got up at half ten ((*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) teenage hormones to thank there), worked on an article for about twenty minutes and wrote like two sentences, and then I went out with some friends and didn't get back until almost 8, by which time the Euro 2016 final was starting - and I was not about to miss that. But consequently, I have a tonne of work to do tomorrow, and I'm probably going to wake up late again because it's 2am now and I'm still awake. And then I have dance in the evening so everything has to be done by 5. Ughhh.

    On that note, goodnight...if I don't get to bed now I really will do nothing tomorrow!
     
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    Goodnight to you as well! I know the feeling, I have to go to bed soon too if I want to get up in the morning for work.

    For some reason my biological clock wants me to wake up at five every morning, no idea why it just does. Have fun at work!
     
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    Based upon this you agree with the theory of Communism it appears to me. In practice Communism is great in a small setting (it's called a Commune for a reason) and many small towns throughout history have practiced it, but history doesn't seem to support it on a large country sized scale. Now for the question.

    So do you think you have a way of doing it better and keeping it from turning out like the rest, or are you simply stating "I'm a Communist" to get attention?
     
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    Well I certainly don't mind state violence against or suppression of the bourgeoisie during the period between capitalism and communism (known as the dictatorship of the proletariat), I just think Stalin went overboard with it and started suppressing proletarians too. Part of the issue is that Russia (and Belarus, Ukraine etc.) didn't have a sizeable proletariat when the revolution occurred, so its class basis was always going to be unstable. Where I disagree with Stalin and his disciples concerns other matters, like the class character of the Soviet Union and whether a revolution can be sustained in one country. And I think the Soviet Union (or Russia) went off the socialist rails long before Stalin came into power: in 1921, to be exact, after the NEP was introduced.



    Well that's not what the welfare state is, but I think redistribution and the welfare state can definitely be very harmful, including through deincentivisation. Although I think we need a mechanism to prevent workers from dying in the streets, I don't prefer social democratic/welfare state capitalism to capitalism with a smaller state. They're as bad as each other.

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    You're lucky; you can be so much more productive if you wake up early. Likewise!
     
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    Those communes in small settings are not communism in the Marxist sense of means of production owned by the whole of society. I would characterise them as a sort of Owen-inspired utopian socialism. People living in little villages detached from the rest of the world, and presumably then being economically in competition with all the other little villages, is not communism. It's a quasi-primitivist hippie fantasy with some capitalist tendencies and is unfeasible on a large scale. Communism, however, since it is based on means of production being owned by the whole of society and the economy being centrally organised - by the whole of society. This makes it absolutely necessary for communism to exist on a global scale. The Paris Commune never got close to that scale, hence "commune" (etymology-wise, "communism" comes from the French commun - shared, collective).

    Only on the internet would I be asked if I were "doing this for attention" :') I think the way to do it better is to be more freaking organised and less divided (unlike in Paris, Germany, Spain...), to learn from the tactical mistakes in these countries - such as the vanguard model - and to prioritise the spreading of the revolution to other countries.
     
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    What do you have against rotten fruit?
     
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    ...Darn it, you caught me. I'm perpetuating the structural oppression of rotten fruit. I am very sorry and would like to stress that I advocate equality of all fruits and fresh fruit needs to check its privilege.
     
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    Wasn't intending to offend, but if all there is is a statement of belief without substance then nothing can come from the belief. So the only thing garnered from the statement is attention.

    I also apologize for not being specific as to the problems that I was referring to. The problems that I'm referring to are human nature problems. How do you believe you can over come humans nature, for example.....lazy, greedy, and power hunger. Of course there are many many more humans traits that will cause problems in this political system, but those are some of the most divisive ones for a "group" government.
     
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    Have you ever read Ayn Rand's philosophical works and what do you think of her if you have.. (For god's sake don't read her fiction, it's abysmal)
     
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    Why do people presume that getting "high end" technology jobs etc., and getting factory jobs for less educated people, are mutually exclusive to each other?
     

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