Guns For Protection.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by see you next tuesday, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. see you next tuesday

    see you next tuesday Active Member

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    I thought people owned guns because they like them?

    I've never really understood the protection angle.
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Then you've lived a fairly sheltered life. My father was a forensic psychiatrist--meaning he dealt with the criminally insane. After hearing the stories of his patients, everybody with a brain would arm themselves. There are evil people that exist in this world.
     
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    Violent crime in the US is so out of control that we need to further limit the rights of the law abiding to buy/possess a firearm.
    That being the case, it is impossible to argue against the idea that there is a clear legitimate need for a firearm for self-defense.
     
  4. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it is a novel concept. That is why every single police dept in the US has had their officers have guns on their person for eons.

    They just like to fondle them I guess.
     
  5. DZero

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    I think we should solve the problem of crime instead of limiting firearms to civilians. Other countries are doing fine, but the U.S. has got justice wrong.
     
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    When seconds count, cops are only minutes away.
     
  7. Zorro

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    That's odd.

    Cops stage walkout over BLM protest at basketball game. Apparently a lot of cops are upset over the Left's continued hate campaign characterizing them as murderous racists. The Left seems to want only cops to be able to carry a weapon in public and the Left is pushing a hate campaign against Cops characterizing them as murderous racists. A campaign so effective that cops are being hunted on the streets of our cities.

    http://www.startribune.com/minneapo...er-player-comments-warm-up-jerseys/386373171/
     
  8. DoctorWho

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    How so ? Please elaborate on what you consider "The protection angle" do you reside in the U.S. ? Many non U.S. residents simply do not understand guns as protection from criminals.
     
  9. Ziplok

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    A firearm is a great equalizer. If a drugged up 250 pound ,muscle bound, martial arts experienced criminal attempts to attack someone; it's better to have training and a gun to end the situation (vast majority end without a shot being fired), than hoping that pleading with the attacker saves you.
     
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    For every violent crime that occurs, there's a victim. I rest my case.
     
  11. Small Town Guy

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    Pray tell what is not understood?
     
  13. DoctorWho

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    A friend of mine, a hospital Cop, John, was attacked by a 120 pound guy hyped up on pot laced with Angel dust, John 6'2"weighed over 220 pounds, and this guy lifted him up and threw John into a load bearing concrete wall almost killing him.

    I am not playing patty cake with anyone, they attack me and I will defend myself.

    There is a reason why I have credentials and a sidearm.
     
  14. Maccabee

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    I see you say that a lot. Are you an English professor or something?
     
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    As far as public spaces go, you may not be able to protect yourself, specifically, but you could protect other people.
     
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    You know what stopped that truck in Nice France from plowing over more people? A man with a gun did.
     
  18. Xenamnes

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    Perhaps so, perhaps not. Such details are of no relevance to the discussion overall.
     
  19. Hoosier8

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    Violent crime is so out of control that it is half of what it was in the 90s. Methinks you watch too much TV.
     
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    well after I shot a mope who was on parole when he broke my nose after jumping me (along with another mope) in an alley, I sure understand the protection angle
     
  21. DoctorWho

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    Next time, and I hope there is NEVER a next time, Please shoot the mope before he breaks your nose ! OK ??? Thanks !

    Is leetil joke.... lol... :banana:
     
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    I was walking through an alley carrying groceries that lead to my apartment which was in the back of a shop. The shop's entrance was elevated and there was a porch about 5 feet about the alley. It was a college student environment and I knew there was a couple "utes" up on the porch smoking weed but I figured they were just a couple college kids. When I walked by they jumped down on me-they had ordered a pizza and planned on mugging the pizza guy and taking the pizza and his cash. I was carrying groceries while wearing my college varsity warmup jacket that looked like the pizza company's windbreakers. I had not pizza but I had a SW 469 with real hot PMC JHP rounds. Do you know that a contact hit causes far more damage than say a shot a foot away?
     
  23. DoctorWho

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    Yes, those were very good rounds, I found out, Colt Lawman MK lll snubby barrel, Pachmayr signature grips.

    Stock picture of a similar gun.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Col...hUB9WMKHcEHCFkQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=FPofpQea6X3kuM:
     
  24. Maccabee

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    I know. It's just out of curiosity. Your English is very formal and I was wondering if you studied English professionally or not. If you don't want to answer then that's ok.
     
  25. Maccabee

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    My mind runs funny at times but I'm just thinking of all the wasted groceries on the ground.
     

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