Most Cops Are Criminals And Here's The Proof

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  1. Horhey

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    Note to Mods: This is a duplicate thread added to the proper section. Please do not delete this one.

    Technically, it's true. They are habitual "accessories after the fact." It's like a fraternity. It is not just 1% of police officers who are "bad apples," as is often claimed. And if you think about it, the job would naturally attract belligerents.

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    Paramilitary police repression in "enemy territory."

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    NYPD Captain: You Need To Arrest More Black Guys (AUDIO)

    The police officer told his Captain that he only arrested people who committed the crime. The Captain told him that he needed to arrest more black guys, crime or no crime.

     
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    You haven't done an ounce of actual research lolol. Who cares about truth when you have an agenda.
     
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    I suggest people shut up, do as their told by an officer and not make waves they are the LAW and seriously save gross abuse will rarely be in trouble if you make waves. As for wearing to much protection all officers should wear heavier armor, helmets and pack heavier firepower. As for the use of force on protestors did they have a permit to have one if they didn't and blocked rights of way not moving they have every right to disperse the crowd in most places they showed to me a good deal of restraint.
     
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    sense when do you have to have a permit to protest?
     
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    Everyone is picking on Blacks. It's a world wide conspiracy!
     
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    To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    Train cops like they are the military, cover them in military gear, indoctrinate them that they have a super dangerous job, and they see themselves as an occupying force and everyone as the enemy.
     
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    It's been that way for many years. 1977 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Police_Tapes. I remember watching this and I recall Anthony Bouza who then was a Lt or Capt in NYPD and who later went on to become Chief in Milwaukee, saying exactly the same thing. He mentioned "we are an occupying army" or something similar. Bit of a crisis in policing you have.
     
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    But most cops are definitely not criminals. The truth is that sometimes any cop gets close to the line with the law and many go well over it and do so time and again until they quit the job or they get caught. The job itself deals roughly with it practitioners. Decent people sign up and within a few years they have become hardened and embittered.
     
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    There's ways around that.
     
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    Partly, the cops bring that on themselves. When cops show up, people often do not see them as the answer to a problem but expect the problem to get worse because cops by their actions have created the reputation that they are there to arrest and throw their weight around and intimidate. Many cops have one approach to dealing with people - violence and the threat of violence.

    There are some decent people who sign up as cops, but not many. The reputation is now such that only brutes want to be cops.
     
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    Only fools feel that way.

    The facts overwhelmingly show different.
     
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    No most cops are not criminals.
    They would not sign up to be cops if they were. :roll:
    PS: Duh.
     
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    Go tell that to Aiyana Jones, John Crawford, Jose Guerena, James Boyd, Christopher Roupe. Oh, wait, you can't because they were literally murdered by cops, cops who were not punished at all, cops who were defended by the entire "justice" system.

    Or tell that to Bounkham "Baby Bou Bou" Phonesavanh, who was injured when during a raid to the wrong house a cop threw a stun grenade in his crib, and not only were the cops not punished they were defended and praised by their fellow cop hoodlums, and in court actually blamed the parents of Bou Bou for being "negligent in placing the child in harms way".

    The facts show that cops protect their own no matter how abusive a cop is and no matter how much evidence proves his abuse.

    Cops are not your friend, they are not there to protect and serve you, they protect and serve themselves.
     
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    Citing specific incidents has no bearing of the reality that the amount of people killed by cops is extremely small.

    And the facts support this.

    The facts also support the FACT that black people are their biggest attackers, by far.

    Do some research lolol
     
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    I did not mention anything about race, and the incidents I listed include male and female, black and white. And they are just a sample of the roughly 1,000 innocent people killed by cops every year (killed, not including the many many 1,000's beaten, abused, and robbed by cops).

    Are you suggesting that if cops kill innocent black people, or cops murder an "extremely small" number of people that its acceptable? Murder by definition is not acceptable, nor excusable. Particularly when it is done by cops who are entrusted with extraordinary power and are supposedly given extensive training.

    And are you excusing the lack of accountability of cops when they do murder?

    It sounds like you support the idea that cops are exempt from the law.
     
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    You've failed to show us how out of 1,700,000 police officers, "most" are bad. I'll need a percentage and credible sources so we can verify your claims.
     
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    Anti-government types frequently say that those who work for the government are leeches. Funny thing is, they never say that about those in the military or in the police forces. These critics also hate government sponsored medical coverage such as Obamacare. But they applaud those military, police, politicians, and judges whose medical care is financed by taxpayers. Strange how these critics are so consistently inconsistent.
     
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    And the vast majority of those thousand, are absolutely justified. Any unjustified shooting is to much. But the hatred of police is simply not justified by such a small number of unjustified shootings.

    And again, the vast majority of use of force, shooting and otherwise is justified.

    To argue that is hilarious.
     
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    OK, then lets go to the other end of the extreme. Even though in your earlier post you wrote that "Citing specific incidents has no bearing of the reality that the amount of people killed by cops is extremely small" you now write that "Any unjustified shooting is to much". So now any single incident is too much?

    I gave you this earlier:

    Aiyana Jones, 7 year old sleeping on the sofa when cops burst in in a no knock midnight raid (to the wrong house), Jones was shot in the head and killed, the cop first blamed the grandmother, when that lie was exposed the cop said it was an "accidental" discharge. No penalty for the cop for killing a 7 year old and then lying about it, the cop was completely backed by the Detroit PD.

    Is that "too much"? Yes, it is one incident, but it such a glaring example of the lack of accountability of cops, the failure of the "justice" system to apply the law equally and fairly, and the wanton manner the PD falsely blames other people (claiming the Grandmother was responsible for the death of her grandchild!!) in order to protect a cop. How much damage did that one case do to the Detroit PD?

    And combined with just a few other equally egregious cases, it tars the entire police community.

    Other cases such as Bounkham "Baby Bou Bou" Phonesavanh (previously mentioned), John Crawford (literally murdered by cop while shopping in WalMart), Jose Guerena (innocent man killed in a no-knock no-announcement SWAT raid to the wrong house), James Boyd (homeless man murdered by Albuquerque cops, caught on video), Christopher Roupe (innocent teen killed when he answered the door holding a Nintendo game controller).

    In all cases, the cops protected their own, denigrated the victims, slurred and blamed and harassed the families of the victims, and the killer cops were not held accountable.

    Is it "too much" yet? And that's just a few of the cases that received national attention.

    Imagine if you walked into a house and "accidentally" discharged a firearm into the head of a 7 year old? Would you receive the complete support of state lawyers, your union, your employer? Would you walk away free, not even being arrested, not spending a single day in jail?
     
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    Yes, even one is to much. But I can say that and still have the understanding that THE VERY FEW that happen are still nothing compared to the amount of civilians who kill each other. The facts objectively show the BLM narrative dies not fit. This is fact, you can cite specific incidents but they do not think show the big picture.

    You are objectively wrong.
     
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    I have never mentioned BLM, I do not support BLM, that is not a part of my argument and if you search my previous posts in the forum I have argued that cops are abusive long before BLM ever existed.

    You use the word "civilians" to separate cops from non-cops - that is an example of the very attitude that contributes the abusive mentality of cops. Cops are not the military, cops are not "operators", cops role is not to "kill people and break things", cops are not supposed to be an occupying force. Cops are supposed to be part of the community in which they work, they used to be called peace keepers - the very opposite of the military.

    How many non-cops kill each other is completely irrelevant to the issue of cops murdering people. Cops are given extraordinary power, they have the power of the State behind them, and in exchange for that loan of power cops are supposed to be carefully selected and extraordinarily trained to wield that power with restraint, humility, and care. And out of respect for being granted that level of power and trust, cops should hold themselves to a extraordinary degree of accountability.

    When a non-cop commits murder, he faces severe consequences. When a cop commits murder he abuses the trust granted to all cops and should not only face the same consequences of the non-cop, but should face the punishment of the entire police community he has shamed and abused.

    But that's not what happens today. Cops think they are para-military operating in enemy territory with an ambush around every corner, cops think they are so special that they are above the law and no non-cop has the ability or right to judge any cops actions.

    Those are the facts.
     
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    I use the word civilian to separate them. Because they are separate. Feeling offended by that is the very attitude that is causing such pronlems. It's childish. They are very much still peace keepers, but civilians are unjustly fighting them, therfore they have to fight back. People like you wouldn't ever put yourself in thier position, but you feel no qualms about judging them unfairly.

    The vast majority of cops who do wrong are punished. This is fact.

    The ones who aren't do not represent the rest. That is fact.

    You are the problem here. Not them.
     
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    Cops are the victims? LOL what a joke. Cops have all the power, they have the entire system at their back, they can literally kill you and simply claim they "felt threatened" and that's all the excuse they need. They are above the law, they act like they are above the law. That's why they are held in such low esteem.

    It does not matter if the majority of abusive cops are punished. The threshold is the number of abusive cops who are not punished for violent crimes despite overwhelming evidence.

    If 10% of janitors are crooks who steal toilet paper and cleaner and get away with their crimes, nobody cares because janitors are not given extreme power over people, their crimes are slight. If 0.1% of cops murder or beat or falsely accuse innocent people, and get away with it despite the evidence because the system is corrupt, its a huge deal because of the power cops have over people. One bad cop can tarnish - can ruin - the reputation of an entire PD and destroy the relationship with the community.

    And because of that simple fact of human nature and society, every cop should have zero tolerance for any misdeed of any cop. But cops are tolerant, they protect their own no matter what, right or wrong.
     

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