Jesus Christ is no myth

One of the attacks against Christians is that Jesus Christ is a myth, did not existed or is just a made up story and yet history has proven to us that Jesus is real he did existed and his presence his encounter with the Pharisees but most of all his preaching, his mission and ministry would change the history of Rome and the world. Today with the advancement of modern science we are able to confirm without doubt that Jesus Christ is real, he existed and the events as depicted in the Bible that ended with his crucifixion is historically real.

The discovery of Jesus family ossuary is just one of the many archaeological evidences that Jesus Christ is real and existed. Not only is he real but his Apostles, the Biblical characters in his life time were all real.
[video]http://www.livescience.com/50434-jesus-family-tomb-geology.html[/video]

The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

The only mystery left is how Jesus resurrected and can science one day learn about Jesus ascension to Heaven.

 

Whether he existed isn't particularly interesting, I'm sure there were many people called Jesus (or Yeshua or whatever, it doesn't matter) in the Middle East. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the claims we have derive from one of those.

The real question is what good reasons do we have to believe that he was anything above just a guy. Resurrection would certainly be a good point (although it'll be hard since truly establishing that it happened most often relies on understanding the process, which, for the resurrection, we don't).

 

1. There is no evidence of any ossuary directly linked to a carpenter named "Yusef" of Nazareth (Joseph).

2. There is no contemporaneous accounts of the life of Jesus....except the Gospels. Everything else is post-dated after his life and after "Christianity" was founded by the Apostles, decades even a century later.


3. The basic premise of this OP is thus false.....science has NOT "proved that Jesus was real."


Interestingly, how many Believers no longer want FAITH....but want SCIENCE to support their beliefs.

I think this shows a paradigm shift in Christianity as science has under-cut the literal interpretation of the Bible over the centuries.

 

Except that neither of these are actual proof of Jesus existence.

 

I personally think it is likely that that there was a real jesus, and that he was not a myth
.. And that he said and did some of the things ascribed to him
But, the reality is that it is extremely difficult to prove very much about events from 2000 years ago
So, even assuming that jesus existed, the details of his life and teaching are clouded with uncertainty

Imo, it is important to answer why god would send his only begotten son to save the world by excruciating execution....and then be so sloppy in arranging for his life and message to be transcribed

 

I agree that a historical Jesus probably existed, for several reasons, but that's a far cry from accepting the claim that everything the Bible says about him is true. Especially given the contradictions.

 

WanRen a friend of MittRyan (of "Ask Tough Questions and I'll Copy & Paste an Answer from CARM to you" fame)....sees no contradictions in the Bible...or off-handedly dismisses them.

 

C'mon, you can do better than this.

 

Don't tempt fate. He has his own Bible, written by and for, him.

 

Don't tempt fate. He has his own Bible and Church History written by, and for, him

 

No doubt there are many people with the same first names that’s why one way to identify specific individuals is referring to their entire names that include last and place of birth or resident. Example: Jesus of Nazareth son of Joseph.

Since it has been established that Jesus Christ did existed the next step is to understand or learn if he is just a man or is he truly God? And the resurrection is the main topic and focus of research uncover the process of the resurrection is the key to learn if Jesus is just a man or is he truly unique different from all other man that he is what he claims to be Son of God.

There is this missing years of Jesus Christ about 20 years no records of him he would reappear as an adult about 30 years old fully educated and knowledgeable in Hebrew history and tradition, Torah, Romans, medicine and language that would make the Pharisees and Sadduccees wonder where Jesus got his knowledge and education.

In the east there are certain individuals that have mastered the mind over body meditation of self-control they can shut out bodily pain withstand body torture that no normal people can. Did Jesus master the same mind over body meditation that has allowed him to withstand the torture and crucifixion?

Today, we learnt the term clinically dead in which certain individuals that experienced death but after a few hours or days would suddenly come back to life. Could it be that Jesus was in today’s standard clinically dead and that he revived after the timely intervention of Nicodemus who took him down from the cross and buried him in the tomb?

Very little information is out there about Jesus during his time was because the Jewish elites exerted every effort to shut Jesus down any attention of Jesus life and the events that took place especially with the resurrection is available only in the Bible.

What we know is that after the resurrection suddenly people started to pay attention. The bigger question is how can such clinical process be explained during Jesus time?

The research continues on.

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1. The evidences are there and what is more striking is that the research is being led by prominent Jewish and none Jewish scientist.
2. Enemies of Jesus mainly the Pharisees tried everything they can to shut down everything that is about Jesus that is why very little to no written accounts of Jesus except in the Bible were the Apostles wrote and preserved as much as they can about Jesus. And then there is the Dead Sea Scrolls written by another Jewish group the Essenes these group do not recognize the authority of the Pharisees or the Sadduccess. It was only after the resurrection that people started to pay attention to the reality of Jesus Christ.
3. Certain people and individuals will continue to deny the facts and discoveries but that will not change what was uncovered by scientist and that is Jesus of Nazareth son of Joseph is real he existed and he is Jesus Christ the Christ that was instrumental in changing the course of history.


Faith and facts goes hand in hand and the fact is Jesus Christ prove who he really was and the reality of the existence of the mystery of Heaven and Hell.

Through science the existence and reality of God is more so solidify than ever before today we understand the process of creation in certain degree we learn and know how to be creators.

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It is more than actual proof it is confirming proof that Jesus Christ, the people close to him and the spread of Christianity is as real as it gets.

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The will of God is truly something that require deep study, research, meditation and understanding and so far the only individuals that has reach that level of understanding God’s will are the Apostles, the Saints and Buddha. The same way it takes great scientific minds to understand the galaxy. And to quote Einstein “I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it”.

As Jesus said “my kingdom is not of this world”. Today scientist believes that there exists some form of parallel universe, a black hole, a some kind of fringe universe.

Is it really a sloppy arrangement for God to send His only begotten Son to suffer and die and to resurrect without fully convincing humanity of His existence?
What is really the end game everlasting happiness after earthly life?

 

the stories about him are the myth

and of course the man never went by the name "Jesus" while alive, that name was given to him to make him sound less middle eastern

The Sun is real too... but the Sun God is still myth....

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The Bible gives as a general information who Jesus and God is if there is any contradiction it is from us our own failings to understand but to interpret it according to our will not God’s.

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Science is continuing to do better and thanks to that we are learning more and more about the reality of God.

 

People who are against Jesus have tried to make him a myth thanks to modern science and archaeology we know that Jesus Christ is no myth.
The sun is different from Son the difference is that the word sun refers to the planet or the star that provide planet earth warmth and light. The word Son refers to a human offspring a male.
It is true worshiping or referring the sun as God is based on myth.

 

All life on Earth is generated in one way or another from the energy of the sun. Jesus would not have walked the Earth without
the Sun. The Sun is God. Prove that the Sun does not exist or stop attacking the Sun. Your pathetic heathen remarks regarding
the Sun are an attack upon the true God.

 

Not only are their people that worship the sun, they also worship Mars, Pluto, the Ocean, the Eagle, the trees, including a golden calf, etc. etc.
God does not want us to worship Him not knowing He exist or to falsely worship Him to be a planet or star or a sun that is why God came to us in the form of a man as Jesus Christ to educate us to be with us to personally present himself to let us know that He is real and God exist.
God created the sun, the stars, the planets and all creatures and He created us the humans to take charge of his creation.
And through our God given gift of intelligence created in God's image we use science to learn that planets, stars this include the sun are not gods or is God.

 

If God exists, so what? There's no reason to worship him.

 

IMO Christians are just sick of all the lies atheists have been making against the religion.

 

Actually no it isn't, even the links you provided shows there is dispute on the research .. which BTW has not been presented for peer review.

 

Jesus Christ having existed or not isn't the issue here. The real issue is was he the son of some god.

 

If he did not exist then he could not have been the son of some god, and if he did exist then that does not prove he was the son of some god.

 

Proof that there is no God:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL4dXUtblg

 

I don't believe you exist, either.

 

See what he did there?

FIRST, he claims there is incontrovertible EVIDENCE that Jesus existed....outside of the Gospels (bullet point 1)...

THEN he claims that "Pharisees engaged in a massive cover-up" and thus the only contemporaneous "evidence" of Jesus' existence....are the Gospels.


He contradicts himself...and has to create a conspiracy theory, as well.


Then, in Bullet Point #3, he engages in the "If you don't believe my bulls*** claims....there's obviously something wrong with YOU."line......a typical knee-jerk response from a weak Internet apologist.

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"Proof" that there is no Santa Claus. Or Atlantis. Or Sasquatches roaming around Olympia, Washington.

 

If God exist this mean there is Heaven and Hell and there is eternal happiness and eternal suffering in life after death. It is through worshiping God that we acknowledge His existence.

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If I may, Christians have been since Christ been attacked with all sorts of lies that have always led to their persecution, suffering and death. It is not that Christians are tired of all the lies launch at us by atheist or by none Christians but it is about educating and sharing the whole truth not through here say or myth claims but by facts, science and philosophy.

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Archeologist led by both Jewish and none Jewish scientist have established the existence of Jesus Christ his ministry, his crucifixion and the people that surrounds him and involved in his life the Apostles, Mary, Joseph, Pilate, Caiaphas, Nicodemus, John the Baptist etc. More evidences are still being uncovered and research continue to confirm the historicity and reality that Jesus of Nazareth is Christ the Christ that was put to death because of blasphemy against the Jewish controlled religion what is now known as Judaism.
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