Navy to Name Ship After Gay Rights Activist Harvey Milk

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  1. Lil Mike

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    I actually thought this was a parody news site at first.

    Navy to Name Ship After Gay Rights Activist Harvey Milk

    The Navy is set to name a ship after the gay rights icon and San Francisco politician Harvey Milk, according to a Congressional notification obtained by USNI News.

    The July 14, 2016 notification, signed by Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus, indicated he intended to name a planned Military Sealift Command fleet oiler USNS Harvey Milk (T-AO-206). The ship would be the second of the John Lewis-class oilers being built by General Dynamics NASSCO in San Diego, Calif.


    Now...wasn't this guy a pedo? Is that really who we want to name Navy ships after?
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can the USS Lana Dunham be far behind?

    and isn't this sort of a stick in the eye to the left...naming an evil weapon of WAR after one of their heroes?
     
  3. Mr_Truth

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    A ship was named after Queen Victoria who practiced genocide in India.


    Another ship was named after Reagan who financed genocide in Guatemala.



    Both vessels named for Hitlerians who murdered thousands of children. Shame on anyone who caused that.
     
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    Nope. You may be thinking of Jerry Sandusky.



     
  5. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe the USNS Harvey Milk escort will be the USS Dan White ?
     
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    He was a pedophile.

    Just another step in the "progressives" destruction of America. Every chance they get, they seek to divide and insult.

    And to name an oiler after a gay pedophile, I can already hear the comments when that ship engages in underway replenishment.
     
  7. Cordelier

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    When Winston Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty back before the First World War, he was instrumental in converting the Royal Navy from older Coal-powered vessels to newer and faster oil-powered ones. When a disgruntled Admiral told him he was scuttling the traditions of the Navy, Churchill responded by saying, "Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash."
     
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    Looks like Obama want's the U.S. Navy to return to the old tradition of sodomy aka buggery.

    Repeal DADT, and name ships after those who engaged in buggery. My best guess the sash is S&M.

    FYI:
    According to WinstonChurchill.org, the quote "The only traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash," was never actually said by him. His assistant, Anthony Montague-Browne, said that Churchill wished it was his quote.
     
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    Mebbe dey could call it...
    :wink:
    ... the Milk wagon.
    :roll:
     
  10. Cordelier

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    Good catch on the quote... I didn't know that one - I always figured it was genuine. I give Harvey Milk full credit for being a pioneer in the field of LGBT rights.. I just don't see what that has to do with the Navy.
     
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    It's part of Obama politicizing the military and social engineering of the military.

    Changing the culture, customs, traditions, regulations and even rewriting the history of our military services to further a political agenda.

    Any one who opposes it will be purged and they have been purged.

    The U.S. Navy became somewhat liberal starting 1970 when Admiral Zumwalt became Chief of Naval Operations. The U.S. Navy became known as "Zumwalt's Navy"

    Big changes, beer machines in the barracks. Black sailors were allowed to wear afros. Sailors could grow their hair a little longer and have sideburns and even grow a beard.

    Uniform changes, enlisted sailors uniforms, white shirts and tie, no more white dixie cup covers (hats) but white barracks covers and blue (*)(*)(*)(*) caps. No more bell bottom trousers.

    It only lasted for a couple of years because the CPO's and the enlisted sailors revolted. They wanted to hold on to the old naval traditions and customs. Out went the beer machines in the barracks and the bell bottoms and the white dixie cup covers came back and no more beards and sideburns.

    The U.S. Navy sailors looked like sailors again. The U.S. Navy would stay Navy until 1993 when the witch hunt began by liberals in Congress. It was all about the Tailhook Association yearly gig back in 1991. This was the first purge of officers by liberals whear 14 admirals and 300 naval officers most who weren't even at the Tailhook party were purged from the Navy. The nation lost some if it's best admirals and fighter jocks all in the name of political correctness.

    1993 was the beginning of the liberal's social engineering of the U.S. military and the first service the libs would go after was the Navy. It continues today during the Obama administration. "Full speed ahead, damn national security. Any officer who gets in the way of political correctness and liberal social engineering will walk the plank."

    It's the shame that the military is being politicized and feminized and naming ships after political activist is so Marxist.
     
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    I liked Admiral Zumwalt... he had a lot of good ideas and he thought outside the box. Of course, not all of his ideas were necessarily good ones, but I liked that he wasn't afraid of fresh thinking. He was exactly what the Navy needed in the early 70's and he set the stage for what it would become in the 80's. Say what you will about Harvey Milk, but I don't have nearly as much problem naming an oiler after him than I did when it named a carrier after a blatant segregationist like John Stennis (CVN-74).
     
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    Who was behind naming a carrier after Stennis ? Had to be political.

    It's just gotten so political with naming Navy ships.

    They should go back when politics weren't part of the military.

    It use to be.

    Aircraft carriers were named after famous battles like the USS Valley Forge or USS Bunker Hill'

    Battleships were named after states.

    Battle cruisers were named after U.S. territories.

    Cruisers after cities.

    Destroyers and frigates after Naval and Marine heros

    Submarines after fish.

    Tugs, (fleet, harbor, etc.) named after American Indian tribes.
     
  14. Cordelier

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    The Stennis was contracted in 1988, so I imagine it was someone in the Reagan Administration. I'm with you on the traditional naming standards (with allowances for the present day - not much call for battleships anymore)... and we should also never, ever name a ship after a living person like we did with the George H. W. Bush (CVN-77).
     
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    Twenty Six US Navy Ship Naming Controversies

    excerpts:

    USS John C. Stennis—Like Vinson, Congressman John Stennis had been a tireless advocate of a strong modern Navy. And also like Vinson, Stennis had a poor record for advancing civil rights. Both were fervent segregationists, a point that many thought should have precluded them from being honored with a namesake carrier.


    USS Jimmy Carter—By designating a Seawolf-class submarine USS Jimmy Carter, the Navy perhaps dodged the conundrum of having to name an aircraft carrier in honor of a former president who had not been a supporter of the carrier program. Fortunately for the Navy, the fact that Carter (the only president to have graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy) had served as a submariner, made the naming-decision an ostensibly appropriate honor.


    USS Ronald Reagan—It took a bit of horse-trading to get CVN-76 named for Reagan, who was still living at the time of the announcement. The Clinton administration agreed to appease Reagan’s supporters by naming a carrier for the Republican president, but only after another carrier was named for Democrat Harry S. Truman.


    USS Harry S. Truman—While still under construction, the USS United States was renamed Harry S. Truman as part of the compromise to name a carrier for Reagan. Truman was a curious choice to be honored with a carrier since he had canceled the first supercarrier in 1949 just a few days after the keel was laid down. The name of that ship? The United States. Truman thus managed to cancel the name “United States” twice.


    USS George H.W. Bush—Unsurprisingly, cynics took issue with a carrier being named for Bush at a time when his son was president, questioning the amount of influence the White House had on the decision. Others feared that the name would make the ship a constant target for nations and groups that resented the policies of the younger Bush. Defenders noted that in addition to being a former commander in chief, the elder Bush had served in WWII as a naval aviator.


    USNS Medgar Evers—Critics accused the President Barack Obama’s administration of ignoring Navy tradition and blatantly politicizing ship names by honoring slain civil rights leader Medgar Evers with a dry cargo vessel. Although the critics said that political activists had never before been given namesake ships, there had been several, including a destroyer tender named for labor leader Samuel Gompers and a cargo ship named for Amelia Earhart to recognize her role as a pioneering aviator and advocate for women’s rights.


    USS John P. Murtha
    —The 2010 decision to name an amphibious transport vessel for the late Pennsylvania congressmen and former Marine was met with immediate condemnation from critics who maintained that Murtha was unworthy since he had accused a group of Marines of murdering Iraqi civilians “in cold blood” without knowing the facts.


    USNS Cesar Chavez—Cesar Chavez was a dedicated champion of civil rights who strove to improve labor conditions, but many observers thought the 2011 decision to name a Lewis and Clark-class cargo ship after him was misguided. In addition to describing his service in the Navy as “the two worst years of my life,” Chavez believed strongly in nonviolence and probably would not have wanted his name on a warship.


    USS Gabrielle Giffords—While noting that Congresswoman Giffords recovery from injuries suffered during a 2011 shooting was admirable, critics believed she had done little in support of the Navy during her short tenure to merit the namesake Independence-class littoral combat ship announced in 2012. It was argued that it would have been more suitable to name the vessel for any of the thousands of Marines and sailors who died defending the country.


    USS Robert E. Lee, USS Stonewall Jackson, USS Dixon, and USS Hunley—In the 1960s, the U.S. Navy seemed to have forgiven their Civil War adversaries and named several ships after Confederates (including George Dixon who sank a U.S. Navy ship while commanding the submarine H.L. Hunley). With the issue of honoring Confederates having grown more contentious in recent years, the Navy has avoided controversy by not reusing the names of such ships after they were decommissioned.


    USS Harvey Milk ?—In 2012, there was grumbling from conservative commentators over Congressman Bob Filner’s petition to have a ship named after San Francisco activist Harvey Milk. Milk, who had served as an officer in the Navy, was assassinated soon after becoming one of the first openly gay men to be elected to public office in California.

    All 26 ships -> https://news.usni.org/2013/04/23/twenty-six-us-navy-ship-naming-controversies
     
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    The officers will form a new Navy command units ... the Village People. And the Anthem of the ship will be the famous YMCA.

    Jokes a part, I do note a curious dichotomy in this: a gay rights activist gives the name to a warship. Does this mean that this gay activist considered to kill for the homeland a duty and a honor?
     
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    He was a Democratic senator who's main contact with the Navy as far as I can tell was being on the Armed Services committee, but I can't imagine the ship naming was a Reagan administration call. Stennis opposed Reagan's SC nominee Robert Bork and probably opposed Reagan on just about everything else.
     
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    Well Milk was actually in the Navy. He was a diver so I'm guessing he was ready to kill for the homeland.
     
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    As far as I understand it, the naming of a new ship is the SECNAV's call.... so it was probably Jim Webb who named the Stennis.
     
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    This makes a bit more sense.

    So, let's go back to politically opportunity: it's evident that we are in a period when authorities tend to take decisions within the limits of "politically correct". But not only this. They tend to indulge in rewarding minorities. This political strategy can pay, but the other face of the medal is that it's dilute the principle of merit, since the merit becomes relative to a category, it's no more an absolute matter, but a relative "thing".

    So a warship hasn't to carry the name of a greatest intruder, but one warship will carry the name of a great heterosexual intruder, an other the name of a gay intruder, an other the name of the first woman who became intruder, an other the name of an intruder's son with handicap ...
     
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    I wonder if there's a quote about how many famous people wish they had said all the things that are attributed to them. Anybody know of one?
     
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    Sandusky, like his mentor Joe Paterno, is a Republican
     
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    That would actually make sense, although it was a stupid decision.
     
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    Heh! A ship named for someone with a handicap would be the perfect metaphor for the administration's vision of the Navy.
     
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    Dan White also served in the military and he actually did kill Harvey Milk.
     

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