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    <<MOD WARNING>A Moderator's Warning has been issued on this thread for deliberate thread derailment. Any attempt to discuss anything other than the subject of the OP will be treated as deliberate thread derailment in which a poster was already formally warned.


    "The reason why Germany invaded Poland was because" ....
    The correct answer was given back in 1926 in Mein Kampf:
     
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    I and Hitler ... we are answering to you here:

    This all is from the same place.
    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv2ch14.html
    As you can see, in 1926, Hitler planned to not just restore borders. Hitler planned to handed down Lebensraum for Germans .

    Hitler planned to rob Russia of it territory. About the fate of the Russians .....Hitler was keeping silent .

    .
     
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    Yes. Of course, I would choose B. National Socialism.
    I would choose Hitler and his program.........If I was a German. :)
     
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    Russian had a choice: &#8194;to knock for a loop the Germans or disappear as a nation.

    PS
    In 1917 to the Russian , the Germans brought Jews who in your video A.
    The Germans brought them by a special train and gave them money for the revolution.

    (*)Only Trotsky has been sent from America.
     
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    ...and I've collected some facts .


    fact &#8470;1
    Munich 1939. Britain helped Hitler to seize Czechoslovakia. Hitler lossless doubled their resources.

    fact &#8470;2
    Britain promised to support Poland against Hitler, But not fulfilled its promises. Deceived lonely Poland was defeated.

    fact &#8470;3
    Britain (the government) had read Mein Kampf and knew the strategic plan of Hitler .

    ",,,,,, If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal border states.&#8221;

    On the basis of these facts, I am doing the logical conclusion:

    Britain did everything in its power to ensure that ..... that Hitler would came to the borders of Russia and carried out his strategic plan..

    Stalin also read Mein Kampf and he also knew Hitler's plan . Stalin wanted to get ahead of Hitler, but Hitler ahead of him.

    I would be very grateful to you, (and someone else ),,,, If you would find coined fact and (or) lack of logic in my post .
     
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    I've never heard this before. Could you link to something?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

    Munich 1938.

    summary:
    1) Hitler said:
    - Czechs, if you will not give me the Sudetenland, I will fight you.[​IMG]
    2) France said:
    - Czechs, if you will not give Hitler the Sudetenland and he will attack you, we will not help you. (France and Czechoslovakia had a contract for assistance)
    3) The Czechs said:
    - We will defend ourselves (Czechoslovakia had held a mobilization of the army of 1 million troops.)

    And at this moment on the political scene of world ,,,,,,the Britain appeared in her Chamberlain !!![​IMG]

    4) Chamberlain said:
    - Czechs, if you will not give to Hitler the Sudetenland and he will attacks you, we will not help you, but ......
    ... But if you will give the Sudetenland to Giler, we will guarantee you your new boundaries, and ... and if after that you will have been attacked, then we will help you.

    5 Czechs agreed.

    Result:
    Hitler had overpassed the Czechoslovakia's defenses (a strategic as the Maginot Line),without firing a shot and without losses.
    Hitler certainly had attacked Czechoslovakia and ...
    ... ..and, Britain certainly had not helped the Czechs.

    As you can see, if Chamberlain hadn&#8217;t intervened, then Hitler would have to fight .

    With the help of Britain, Hitler got the entire industry and the war munitions of Czechoslovakia intact. The Czechoslovak tanks then smashing Poland.
     
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    The reason why Germany invaded Poland in 1939 was ...

    There's two ways to look at this:
    From a nationalistic and propagandistic motive based on German propaganda which survived to this day, plus some geopolitical reasons, or second, the real reason: Hitler aspired world domination and Poland was officially the first military target. Unofficially the first target was Austria, and even if you disagree with that premise, than you'd have to consider Czechoslovakia first, prior to Poland, and after Poland other countries followed. Either way Poland wasn't exclusive and alone in Hitler's insane plan.
     
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    Oh please rob them of their territory, they own half the world. Maybe we did need some lebensraum considering Britain and France reduced the country to their personal ping pong ball.
     
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    West-Prussia was German land, which had been taken away from them after the Treaty of Versailles.

    Poles were discriminating the hundreds of thousands ethnic Germans still living there and refused to even negotiate a highway connection from Germany to East-Prussia. Besides that, Danzig was a German city. And everything that was built up in that territory, was German-made. So, when things got out of hand and the Polish government refused to negotiate, the Germans went in and took back what was theirs anyway.
     
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    «Feelings, nothing more than feelings ..."&#8230;. feelings to Vaterland.
    I understand you, but the facts and harsh truth of life is this:

    Even if there were no problems of Danzig, Poland was doomed.
    Poland was doomed because it was on the way to Russia. The territory of Russia have to be Libensraum for Aryans. It is written in Mein Kampf in 1925.
    Mein Kampf, it is the Bible , it is Gospel of the Third Reich. This book was in every German home. From 1936 onwards, it was being given to newly-married couplesas a wedding present from the state.


    Everything that Hitler did, it all conforms to the text of Mein Kampf.
     
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    Austria, it was not a target. It was a means to target.

    PS
    Sorry. Is "mihapiha" it is "&#1084;&#1080;&#1093;&#1072;&#1087;&#1080;&#1093;&#1072;"?:wink:

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    Hitler got all the blame for the invasion of Poland but it was actually a joint invasion organised by Stalin and Hitler. Under the Nazi-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact, the Polish state would be divided in half by the line of the rivers Narev, Vistula and San in the event of a territorial and political rearrangement. Stalin did not miss the opportunity to grab the western half of Poland and ordered his forces into Poland on 17 September, just two weeks after the Germans attacked Poland. From the beginning, the German government repeatedly asked Molotov whether the Soviet Union would keep to its side of the partition bargain.

     
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    Poland was doomed because it was on the way to Russia.
    The territory of Russia have to be Libensraum for Aryans.
    It is written in Mein Kampf in 1925.
    Everything that Hitler did, it all conforms to the text of Mein Kampf.:oldman:

    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv2ch14.html

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    [​IMG]
    Disposition of all troops following the Soviet invasion.

    It was the eastern half of Poland to be exact that Stalin grabbed, following up on the German invasion.
     
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    fact &#8470;1
    Munich 1938. Britain helped Hitler to seize Czechoslovakia. Hitler lossless doubled their resources.

    [​IMG]

    fact &#8470;2
    Britain promised to support Poland against Hitler, But not fulfilled its promises. Deceived lonely Poland was defeated.

    fact &#8470;3
    Britain (the government) had read Mein Kampf and knew the strategic plan of Hitler .

    On the basis of these facts, I am doing the logical conclusion:

    Britain did everything in its power to ensure that ..... that Hitler would came to the borders of Russia and carried out his strategic plan..

    Stalin also read Mein Kampf and he also knew Hitler's plan . Stalin wanted to get ahead of Hitler, but Hitler ahead of him.

    PS
    I would be very grateful to you, (and someone else ),,,, If you would find coined fact and (or) lack of logic in my post .
     
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    It is not the eastern part of Poland. It is the western part of the Russian Empire. It is Belarus .

    These lands was regained from the Russian in the war 1920. In 1939, Stalin recapture it back in Russia.
     
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    I fully agree with what you are saying. Hitler had a "European Mission" and he intended on taking over not only Europe but the entire world through a Fascist Fraternity of nations. Your logic is sound.

    And yeah - Hitler didnt invade invade Austria or Czechoslovakia to protect anyone from slaughter - he had obviously intended to go to war all along and these initial invasions were just the beginning.
     
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    Complete nonsense. Austria wanted to unite with Germany themselves, and a big chunk of Germany was cut off of Germany after the Treaty of Versailles and given to the newly created country Czechoslovakia; the so called "Sudentenland". After hundreds of thousands of Germans were being discriminated against and violence was committed to the ethnic Germans, they wanted to reunite with Germany as well.

    All negotiations with the Czech government failed and Hitler threatened to go in after martial law was declared on the Sudetenland. So that put the European leaders around the table and the land was handed over to Germany without a single bullet fired.

    Besides that, Hitler sent dozens of peace offers to the UK, however, Churchill would have none of it.


    Adolf Hitler's Struggle For Peace

    [video=youtube;TW-pw4rRvUI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-pw4rRvUI[/video]
     
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    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html
    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html

    He saw it coming alright -

    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-two/causes-of-ww2/germany-and-rearmament/

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html
    Indeed.

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html
    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html

    And listen to Hitler right hand man and Nazi Minster of Propaganda let slip about the Nazi "European Mission" or what most of us call "The Final Solution". Oh yes.

    http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb49.htm

    Just in case you missed that key quote - "Every thinking person knows that today, as so often in the past, the German people have a European mission." - Joseph Goebbels/Nazi Minister of Propaganda

    Now where do you think the Jews of Europe would have gone if the Nazi had been able to complete this "European Mission" or Final Solution of theirs? The Nazi took away the citizenship of Jews in Germany right? Not to mention the fact genocide of European Jews known as the holocaust. And if these murderous Nazi has been victorious in WW2 and they and their allies had established a fraternity of fascist nations do you really believe they would have stopped at the genocide of the European Jews? Of course not. If the Nazi had won WW2 they would have eliminated all Jewish people of the earth and Judaism itself.

    It is outrageous for these Nazi-loving holocaust deniers that seem to be springing up to claim that there is no evidence of the Nazi Final Solution. The Nazi "European Mission" is the Final Solution and Hitler and his Nazi openly state their intentions from the beginning. The Nazi did indeed have a European Mission from the start and part of that European Mission was the genocide of Jewish people.

    [video=youtube;3EoI-6lQFIE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EoI-6lQFIE[/video]

    - - - Updated - - -

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html
    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html

    He saw it coming alright -

    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-two/causes-of-ww2/germany-and-rearmament/

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html
    Indeed.

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html
    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html

    http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html

    And listen to Hitler right hand man and Nazi Minster of Propaganda let slip about the Nazi "European Mission" or what most of us call "The Final Solution". Oh yes.

    http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb49.htm

    Just in case you missed that key quote - "Every thinking person knows that today, as so often in the past, the German people have a European mission." - Joseph Goebbels/Nazi Minister of Propaganda

    Now where do you think the Jews of Europe would have gone if the Nazi had been able to complete this "European Mission" or Final Solution of theirs? The Nazi took away the citizenship of Jews in Germany right? Not to mention the fact genocide of European Jews known as the holocaust. And if these murderous Nazi has been victorious in WW2 and they and their allies had established a fraternity of fascist nations do you really believe they would have stopped at the genocide of the European Jews? Of course not. If the Nazi had won WW2 they would have eliminated all Jewish people of the earth and Judaism itself.

    It is outrageous for these Nazi-loving holocaust deniers that seem to be springing up to claim that there is no evidence of the Nazi Final Solution. The Nazi "European Mission" is the Final Solution and Hitler and his Nazi openly state their intentions from the beginning. The Nazi did indeed have a European Mission from the start and part of that European Mission was the genocide of Jewish people.

    [video=youtube;3EoI-6lQFIE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EoI-6lQFIE[/video]
     
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    What's all the quotes about? I see nothing of interest there.

    And the Jews would all have been deported alive and well to Israël after the war, or possibly Madagascar. (see "The Madagascar Plan")

    There's not 1 single Nazi document which proves a plan for extermination, neither is there any forensic evidence for the Holocaust.
    It's all a lie in order to slander the Germans and destroy National Socialism.

    [video=youtube;OtAnuXl5VZY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtAnuXl5VZY[/video]
     

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