Fact Check Devastates Trump As His First Ad Averages 1 Lie Every 4 Seconds

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    Fact Check Devastates Trump As His First Ad Averages 1 Lie Every 4 Seconds

    …Fact checkers have blown apart Donald Trump's first general election campaign ad, by finding that the television spot contains one lie every four seconds….

    “Fact checkers have blown apart Donald Trump’s first general election campaign ad, by finding that the television spot contains one lie every four seconds………..

    …. Trump’s ad begins with a favorite lie of the GOP nominee that the system is rigged against Americans. PolitiFact has rated this a pants on fire lie, “While there are isolated examples of bought local elections, experts say it cannot be replicated on a national scale. While it is possible to tamper with electronic voting machines, there is no evidence deliberate malfeasance has altered any election.”…….

    • Trump’s ad begins with a favorite lie of the GOP nominee that the system is rigged against Americans. PolitiFact has rated this a pants on fire lie, “

    • Trump’s ad claimed that illegal immigrants who commit crimes get to stay in the US, but this is also false.

    • The ad accused undocumented immigrants of skipping the line and collecting Social Security. PolitFact also rated this statement as not totally true,

    • Trump’s ad also lied about having a plan and lied about keeping the borders secure.

    Never has a candidate been so willing to pile so many lies on top of each other at such a rapid pace. Donald Trump is trying to lie his way to the White House, which is why it is vital that each of the GOP’s nominee’s false statements get the scrutiny that they deserve.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/19/fact-check-devastates-trump-ad-averages-1-lie-4-seconds.html

    ALSO SEE:
    https://youtu.be/3mKzYPt0Bu4

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trumps-baseless-claims-about-election-being/

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/repu...2016-fact-checking-speakers/story?id=40684860

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...king-donald-trumps-attack-on-hillary-clinton/

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mp/trump-illegal-immigrants-four-two-billion/

    FINALLY…………someone has noticed............

    and told the King he has no cloths……….

    And as my Grand mom used to say, “………."Tell another lie! and I’m going to clean your mouth out with some soap"

     
  2. Doug_yvr

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    So he's doubling down on turning Hispanics off by showing them in the ad in handcuffs. There's nothing for him to gain in this ad. He's already got the bigot vote and by running this he's again going to drive minorities away.
     
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    Really? Hillary Clinton supporters are worried about a candidate lying?

    It'll take me a while to respond to the fact checkers in the OP but for now, let's just ask, isn't Hillary Clinton an infamous liar? I mean, she even lied about Comey claiming he said she told the absolute truth!

    [​IMG]

    WaPost Fact Check: Four Pinocchios For Hillary Clinton
     
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    Well, if there was such a thing as a fact check machine Trump would have broken the damn thing :eyepopping:
     
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    The anti- Trumpeizda forces just need to show sine if hus lies ad hus mocking a disabled reporter and lying about thec10,000 baked Muslims dancing and signing on NJ roof tops on the night of 9 11.
     
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    Well all those fact checkers are a bunch of liberal George Soros funded establishment defenders that lean left, so come on. But okay, let's check their checks:

    Well, if the fact that income inequality has gotten worse under Obama doesn't demonstrate the system is rigged then what else does?

    During Obama’s Presidency Wealth Inequality has Increased and Poverty Levels are Higher

    Do we need to talk about the huge campaign donations that the Democratic Party has gotten over the past two election cycles or the hundreds of millions of dollars raised by Crooked Hillary from fat cat big 1%er donors, corporations, big pharma, big banks and investment houses? No, that's pretty well known shouldn't we agree?

    ICE releases 19,723 criminal illegals, 208 convicted of murder, 900 of sex crimes

    Um...Didn't Obama sign an executive order giving legal status to illegal aliens? I think he did! And that makes them eligible for what? Social Security. And didn't they then in fact, "skip the line"? I think they did. Other legal immigrants have to wait and go through a long legal process that takes years.

    The fact is that he violated the Constitution and he knows it. By giving them legal status they can claim Social Security benefits and against his promise, it makes them eligible for Obamacare.

    Obama said 22 times he lacks power to change immigration law

    Well, we can't call this a lie because he's not president...yet.

    Talk about glass houses. Hillary lied about her email server, she lied to the Benghazi families, she lied about the video, she lied about Director Comey, she has a criminal referral for perjury before congress and she is currently going around lying about all the connections between the Clinton Foundation and other cash she received while Secretary of State.

    I don't see any lies out of Trump no matter what the leftist fact checkers say.
     
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    Too bad the "rigged system" in the ad has absolutely nothing to do with rigged elections. "Pseudo-Factcheckers" pants are on fire.... Good luck to the ruling elites and the Washington establishment convincing hard working americans in battleground states whose jobs are disappearing and whose standard of living is collapsing that the system is not rigged in favor of the ruling elites and the Washington establishment.
     
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    Trumplings are voting out of anger. They don't care about facts.
     
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    Tell me, do you care that Hillary Clinton is a liar? Or are you going to tell me she doesn't lie?
     
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    [video=youtube;3mKzYPt0Bu4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mKzYPt0Bu4&feature=youtu.be[/video]

    Looks good to me. Politihacks? They are part of the rigged system.
     
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    Every claimed lie was the actual lie.
    FACT: Congress exempts itself from most laws, stacking the deck in their favor. The blog lied.

    FACT: THOUSANDS OF CONVICTED ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WERE RELEASED BACK IN THE USA. The blog lied claiming this doesn't happen.

    FACT: 92% of refugees go on welfare and food stamps. The blog lied claiming this doesn't happen.

    Fact: Trump stated the plans to secure the border by a Wall on the southern border and by severely restricting immigration. blog claims Trump never said such things.

    The Democrat tactic truly is outright pathological lying. The ultimate clown car. Saying what everyone knows is false and is an absurd statement such as is not the Democrat tactic such as that blog and the OPer used to be called the Monty Python Parrot skit, of a pet seller vehemently dying a parrot he sold is dead, when it obviously is.

    The Democrat Party clearing is relying upon winning by gaining the votes of the stupidest and most submissive beta personality people on earth.
     
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    Yepp, i see that Don Trump has successfully pivoted....


    ....completely to the dark side.


    LOL!!!
     
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    Where's the Beef?

    Allow me to respond to the link to the Washington Examiner a well-known RW publication........which mention/refer to the following:.

    Center for Immigration Studies

    The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is a conservative[2] non-profit research organization that advocates immigration reduction in the United States.[3] It was started as a spin-off from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) in 1985.[4] The CIS's self-described mission is to "provid[e] immigration policymakers, the academic community, news media, and concerned citizens with reliable information about the social, economic, environmental, security, and fiscal consequences of legal and illegal immigration into the United States."[5]

    • In December 2007, FAIR was designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). The SPLC accused leaders of FAIR of meeting with leaders of the Belgian Nationalist group Vlaams Belang which had been condemned by the Belgian Court of Cassation for violations of the law against racism.[35] FAIR has responded to this charge by stating there is no factual basis for the accusation; that FAIR has compiled a long record of mainstream credibility and respect on immigration issues and has always opposed discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, or religion; and that the accusation is an "act of desperation, resulting from the SPLC's failure to convince the American people of their viewpoint."[36][37]

    • FAIR president Dan Stein said of the SPLC, "They've decided to engage in unsubstantiated, invidious name-calling, smearing millions of people in this movement who simply want to see the law enforced and, frankly, lower levels of immigration".[38]

    • FAIR has been criticized for accepting contributions from the Pioneer Fund. Between 1982 and 1994, FAIR received $1.2 million from the foundation.[39] The Pioneer Fund focuses on projects it perceives will not be easily funded because of controversial, racial, or pro-eugenics subject matter.[13] The Pioneer Fund was described by the Sunday Telegraph as a "neo-Nazi organization closely integrated with the far right in American politics" in 1989.[40]

    • FAIR has responded to this criticism by asserting that the Fund clearly states that it supports equal opportunity for all Americans, regardless of race, religion, national origin, or ethnicity; that other major institutions, including universities and medical facilities in the United States and other countries, have also accepted grants from the Fund;[41] and that the Fund's contributions to FAIR were used only for the general operation of the organization.[36]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_reduction_in_the_United_States



    • FAIR established the FAIR Congressional Task Force (FCTF) as a 501(c)(4) organization who believe that promoting public welfare requires drastic restrictions on legal immigration.[33] FAIR established the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) which claims that the rights, privileges, and property of U.S. citizens are threatened by immigration.[34] The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) was spun off from FAIR in 1985.[6]

    • “………….In December 2007, FAIR was designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). The SPLC accused leaders of FAIR of meeting with leaders of the Belgian Nationalist group Vlaams Belang which had been condemned by the Belgian Court of Cassation for violations of the law against racism.[35] FAIR has responded to this charge by stating there is no factual basis for the accusation; that FAIR has compiled a long record of mainstream credibility and respect on immigration issues and has always opposed discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, or religion; and that the accusation is an "act of desperation, resulting from the SPLC's failure to convince the American people of their viewpoint."[36][37]
    • ….. FAIR established the FAIR Congressional Task Force (FCTF) as a 501(c)(4) organization who believe that promoting public welfare requires drastic restrictions on legal immigration.[33] FAIR established the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) which claims that the rights, privileges, and property of U.S. citizens are threatened by immigration.[34] The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) was spun off from FAIR in 1985.[6]

    • FAIR president Dan Stein said of the SPLC, "They've decided to engage in unsubstantiated, invidious name-calling, smearing millions of people in this movement who simply want to see the law enforced and, frankly, lower levels of immigration".[38]

    • FAIR has been criticized for accepting contributions from the Pioneer Fund. Between 1982 and 1994, FAIR received $1.2 million from the foundation.[39] The Pioneer Fund focuses on projects it perceives will not be easily funded because of controversial, racial, or pro-eugenics subject matter.[13] The Pioneer Fund was described by the Sunday Telegraph as a "neo-Nazi organization closely integrated with the far right in American politics" in 1989.[40]

    • FAIR has responded to this criticism by asserting that the Fund clearly states that it supports equal opportunity for all Americans, regardless of race, religion, national origin, or ethnicity; that other major institutions, including universities and medical facilities in the United States and other countries, have also accepted grants from the Fund;[41] and that the Fund's contributions to FAIR were used only for the general operation of the organization.[36]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_for_American_Immigration_Reform


    Pioneer Fund


    The Pioneer Fund is an American non-profit foundation established in 1937 "to advance the scientific study of heredity and human differences". The organization has been criticized as racist and "white supremacist" in nature,[1][2][3] or as a "hate group".[4]

    From 2002 until his death in October 2012, the fund was headed by psychology professor J. Philippe Rushton. The fund states that it focuses on projects it perceives will not be easily funded due to controversial subject matter. As of October 2013, Richard Lynn is the primary contact for the Pioneer Fund.[5]

    Two of the most notable studies funded by the Pioneer Fund are the Minnesota Study of Twins Reared Apart [6] and the Texas Adoption Project, which studied the similarities and differences of identical twins and other children adopted into non-biological families. The Pioneer Fund has also been an important source of funding for research on the partly genetic hypothesis of IQ variation among races.

    The fund's grantees and publications have generated controversy including the 1994 publication of The Bell Curve, which drew heavily from Pioneer-funded research. The fund has also been criticized for its ties to eugenics.[7]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_Fund

    You need to check your sources...........
    Or others to accept them just because the words came from a printed source.

    I will respond to the other claims you cite as "proof" in an attempt to justify Trump lies
     
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    WHERE'S THE BEEF?

    The Washington Examiner cite by another poster gives an insight to "the claim Trump is not a liar" .............See Below/Above

    1. Can you provide some proof of your claim referring to PolitiFact as a ""Pseudo-Factcheckers" pants are on fire."
     
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    Are you suggesting PolitiFact's is wrong?
    Prove it....
     
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    Do try to stay on subject; and contain your said remarks and unsubstantiated personal feelings.........

    When you post in an attempt to disprove a subject post you need to prove your case with supporting material........
    Having not done so.............we are only left with another blast of "hot air" from the RW........
     
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    The Southern Poverty Law Center is a far left leaning communist Democrat organization that designates Christians and Jews as hate groups.
     
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    You are wrong. You should check the facts.
     
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    The ad does not mention or imply any kind of election rigging, it's talking about the system being rigged which obviously means the political and economic system. If according to you the "factcheckers" turned it into an election rigging claim to prove Trump wrong - it's their pants that are on fire. If the factcheckers were not talking about the ad but you did (in your OP), than it's your pants I am afraid.
     
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    No, I'll just disagree. I know. These guys are the Democrats modern day version of the KKK.
     
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    Lying PolitiFact Tried To Hide That It Rated 'True' in 2008 Obamacare's 'Keep Your Health Plan' Promise And Then The lying hacks Tried To Hide It!

    In 2008, at a critical point in the presidential campaign, PolitiFact rated the “keep your plan” promise as “True.” The whole episode, and PolitiFact’s misleading behavior throughout, tells us a lot about the troubled state of “fact-checking” journalism.

    2008 PolitiFact: ‘We rate his statement True’

    2012 PolitiFact: President's claim still ‘Half True’

    2013 PolitiFact: It’s the ‘Lie of the Year’

    So finally "The Lie Of The Year" was admitted to, even though they had previously rated it "True" and then "Half-True".

    They are lying hacks. We all know it. Everyone knows we know it.

    [​IMG]

    It’s more than a bit precious for Holan—a self-appointed Arbiter of the Truth—to declare as a “Lie” a statement that she herself once declared to be “True” without even acknowledging the fact that she had done so. She has no compunction, nor does her employer, in calling President Obama a liar, without calling attention to, let alone reflecting upon, the gaping flaws in her own reporting. So now all people of integrity hold them in utter contempt.

    That we can’t count on PolitiFact to even admit it was wrong tells you everything you need to know about them.

    The entire enterprise of PolitiFact is darkened by the dishonesty at its very core. The group routinely evaluates predictions about the future as “facts.” A fact is something that has happened in the past. A policy outcome that will happen in the future is open for debate. PolitiFact rarely troubles itself with evaluating actual facts, instead considering itself a kind of super-objective think tank that can omnisciently predict the future.

    There’s nothing wrong with trying to assign realism to the predictions about the future that politicians make. But that’s not fact-checking. It’s prediction-checking. Mainly it serves to give them opportunity for self-righteous preening.

    PolitiFact is an embarrassment to the world of fact-checking, let alone to the world of prediction-checking to which it actually belongs. Their 2008 Pulitzer Prize—prominently mentioned on every PolitiFact web page—owes itself in part to the group’s lazy and inaccurate reporting on Obamacare. If PolitiFact were intellectually honest, it would acknowledge that it was undeserving of that prize, reflect on how its work has gone astray, and focus in the future on actual fact-checking instead of prediction-checking.

    They won’t. And that’s all you need to know about the epistemological legitimacy of PolitiFact.

    That you would even cite them is hysterically funny. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone is laughing at you. You have google, use it. Check things for yourself. That's the point of having it.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...n-under-obamacare-it-rated-true/#29014b53316a
     
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    Nope, he isn't supporting Hillary.
     
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    So what does that mean?

    Are you saying/suggesting what they claim is not true?

    And do so without anything to back you up?..............like facts!

    Before you can call a group biased and then suggest all that comes from the group is tainted.............

    You must pick out the item(s) you call; false/lies/distortions/ less that truthful..........

    ........and then prove your assertion with supporting documentation.........

    Can you do that?

    Like they are communists

    Like they are some how affiliated with the Demo0cratic Party

    And designates Christion's and Jews as hate groups.......

    (Now that's the first time I have ever heard that Christians and Jews are hate groups...........:eyepopping:)


    BTW

    The FBI works cooperatively with the SPLC..........I'm sure that adds to their reputation
    See:https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/hate-crime
     
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