Is Islam a sexist religion?

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Is Islam, if properly understood, sexist by our 2016 definition?

  1. No.... not at all.

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  2. Yes... obviously!

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  3. No more sexist than Christianity as explained by Paul.

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  4. A sexist understanding of Islam is a misunderstanding.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mr. Lewkowich has certainly presented a powerful case that yes......
    Islam does indeed tend to be sexist.

    One of the questions I would have to ask myself though is if
    my religion, Christianity is not easy to understand in a similar manner?

    (Rami Amer Dabbas Lewkowich )
     
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    All religion is sexist.
     
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    Typical. But sorry Islam is the poster child for sexism. It is the most anti woman standard of living there is these days in the west or the free world.
     
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    Islam is sexist by modern Western standards but not by 16th, 17th and 18th century standards.
     
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    Like my Hebrew friend that died would say: Durrr!
    Duh!
     
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    Yes. Every religion is basically codified sexism.
     
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    In what specific ways is it more sexist than another?
     
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    In a society where women are most likely not allowed simple amenities like, not being able to drive, having by law to keep their bodies covered up, the only society that literally punishes women for being raped, where women are still bought for marriage even at a child's age, where women are literally used as nothing but for breeding, where women can not even vote.......

    Are you seriously asking that question? Please explain how in today's society any religion compares to the harshness of Islam towards women, lgbt, and it's treatment of non believers?

    Islam is for Neanderthals , not for free society.
     
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    Except of course for all those millions all over the planet of Muslim women who in fact drive, choose whether they want their face covered, are allowed to vote, and are not punished for being raped.

    The fact there are wide and diverse sets of experiences among women who call themselves muslem means that what you are talking about is a reflection of CULTURAL, geographic and religious traditions that intersect to produce different results.
     
  10. DennisTate

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    Good point!

    I am a Christian / Messianic Gentile and I have to admit that
    the Apostle Paul was merely human....... .and he showed some signs
    of having been affected by the flavour of the religion that he had been
    taught since his childhood, (at least as Rabbinic Judaism was understood
    in the First Century C. E., anyway)!?


    1Timothy 2:11
     
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    This is a valid point!

    For a number of reasons the understanding of the Koran at this time is
    similar to how the Jewish and Christian scriptures were interpreted by
    Christians about four or five centuries in the past when we organized a
    genocide on the First Nations peoples of North and South America and justified
    our acts with quotations from Leviticus..... and Romans?!
     
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    True.......... My last name is English and the way that we Brits treated the men and women of
    Ireland back in the seventeenth century....... could sure remind us of the way that ISIS kills off
    all Yazidi men....... and then takes the women as slaves.


    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076

    The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves

    The Slaves That Time Forgot

    ....
     
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    Yes.....through this forum I have ran into some pretty shocking statistics over these past few
    years:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...christian-refugees-prevented-being-lists.html

    Yazidi and Christian refugees prevented from being on LISTS...
    ... by Islamic Refugee Camp guards and officials!

    So now we know why so few Christians and Yazidis were among the
    tens of thousands who were taken to American and Canada over this
    past year!



    http://www.therebel.media/shocking_...orkers_keep_yazidis_trapped_and_doomed_to_die
    Shocking: NGO reveals Muslim UN aid workers keep Yazidis “trapped and doomed to die”
     
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    True that, there are Muslim women that drive and vote in civil societies such as USA and Europe. But at the same time let's not also forget that that the great majority of Muslims do not live in civil societies. Europe and the United States hold around 50 million Muslims out of 1.6 billion.

    It's probably no brainer that most Muslim women live under very strict rule, and probably safe to say that many in civilized countries are still forced to live the way they do.

    Yes there are Muslim women who do as they please, but they are the great minority.

    And the problem is not the Muslim women, it's the men whom people like merkel, Obama and Clinton want to just flood our respected regions with. The male Neanderthal Muslim is the issue in all of this. And considering Islam is a religion, cultural and political way of life proves that most women are not free under its terms.
     
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    Exactly, Christianity had its moment of bloodshed but then for the most part has moved past that and stopped using its religion for death. The problem with Islam is that they can not catch up to modern times, they are completely stuck in their ways and have paved nothing but a trail of bloodshed wherever they go.

    And they wonder why they were kicked out of Jerusalem, Spain, China and today most people do not want them flooding their nations.

    If Islam would just chill the (*)(*)(*)(*) out and stop trying to live by Mohammed's bloodshed code then the world wouldn't give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s about them trying to move next door.

    But since they still throw gays off rooftops, beat and kill women for being raped, and openly take on child brides......

    AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT!!!!!!!
     
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    Islam and Christianity both treat women as second class citizens.
     
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    What a load of crap from someone who knows absolutely nothing about Muslims in general, never mind Muslim women. More than half the world's Muslims live in democratic countries.
     
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    Its definitely sexist. I was a Muslim, but I converted to Judaism, since the chicks don't cover up.
     
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    And? Again Islam is a political, religious and social way of life, it really does not matter where they live because they live by their own rules. Most muslim do not live in democratic countries anyways, most live in hell holes.

    Funny where muslims flock it seems to turn out bad. They left the Middle East in ruin and now they wish to turn the rest of the world into and Islamic toilet and make your daughters available for purchase and child marriage. It is the way of Mohammed after all.

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    Please explain how, in this day and age christianity is anywhere near as bad as Islam on any level. If not, keep the blowhard PC bull(*)(*)(*)(*) out of the convo.
     
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    Most Muslims live in democratic countries. Look it up. (ps you won't find the answer in Stormfront videos)
     
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    I think you recognized above, that European and American culture impacts the way Muslim women behave so that Islamic traditions change depending on the dominant cultural expectations. Muslim women continue to come from Muslim homes with Muslim fathers and brothers,, marry Muslim men, and raise muslim boys, so the men must be changing simultaneously. In other words our culture gradually changes how Islam is observed in both genders. Not sure why you don't assume that will eventually happen with newer immigrants just as it did in prior generations.
     
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    Well sure our society and its rules can sway and shape other cultures, but the problem is how many people are we willing to risk to make that happen ? I know that is off topic but it is part of a reality we are going to face and are facing at the moment in both Europe and the USA.

    But back to the topic, even in our societies Muslim women are still having to follow by the rules of Islam. The day I see Muslim women as truly free as any other that can truly make their own decisions then I will drop the label of Islam being the most sexist religion. And that means in all countries. You don't have to search far for honor killings and such in any country.

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    I don't look at stormfront. But you made the claim, so you bring the answer to the table.
     
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    Exactly!

    I am hopeful that near death experience accounts that Muslims are having will
    soon begin to soften the understanding of Islam.

    I admit that I could well be naive in this hope........... but it is at least somewhat
    comforting.........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...d-son-good-prophet-prophet-muhammad-pbuh.html
    I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
    If more Christian Mystics and even some Jewish Mystics will begin to discuss the theory that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was in many ways a Prophet Like Unto Moses as well as perhaps King David or Elijah or the Patriarch Abraham reincarnated........ then peace will soon break out in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!


    http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html

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    There are many branches and denominations within Christianity......
    some denominations have a much more modern view of the role of women........
     
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    That is a law which, to my knowledge, has no basis in the Quran or Hadith.

    1 Corinthians 11:4-7: "Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man."

    Deuteronomy 22:23-24: "If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you."

    Numbers 31:17-18: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

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    Lol keep on showing bible verses , but tell me where these verses that are anti women are being used into law of countries please. I also noticed that the verses are from the OT , and not from the NT which is what most Christians follow these days. You will be hard pressed to find a group that follows hardly any of the OT besides the 10 commandments.

    Islam however, nothing is ignored out of their book.


    And as far as your little map, send us a link and let's have a chat about that.
     
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