Lies about the Talmud

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  1. Ronstar

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    Anti-Semites, Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other anti-Jewish bigots have for decades spread lies about the Jewish Talmud.

    They claim that is justifies and excuses racism, mass-murder, pedophilia, theft, and other horrible crimes.

    This could be further from the truth.

    http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/

    The fact is, EVERY attack against the Talmud, and by extension an attack against the Jews, is based on either misquoting, out-of-context, or outright lies about passages in the Talmud.

    For example, the term "Cuthean" is often replaced with "Gentile", so as to feign prejudice against all non-Jews.
     
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    Ronstar, are you Talmudic yourself? As it's written in that book it's perfectly ok to lie to all the goyim (non-Jews) to hide your ways..

    Let's hear it from the Jews themselves shall we?


    Talmudic Jews: 'Non Jews Are Beasts to Serve Us as Slaves'

    [video=youtube;-leWJ84EUns]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leWJ84EUns[/video]

    Israelis Do you believe that gentiles goys will be slaves for the Jews

    [video=youtube;q9hzW6W4xbw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9hzW6W4xbw[/video]
     
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    You've chosen to post the opinion of two extreme Jews. There is nothing in the Torah to support those opinions. The two Talmuds were written in different cultures. 'Babylonia' (the old Babylon where many Jews had stayed after the exile and which was outside the Roman Empire), and Jerusalem ,where the Jews were persecuted by the dominant state religion - Christianity. Difficult times for the Jews.
    The Yerusalmi (Jerusalem Talmud) was written by Rabbis being hunted by opponents of Judaism, and frequently moved from place to place. Bavli (Babylonian Talmud) was written by Rabbis free to express themselves without fear.

    They're 'Animals'. How often do you hear that term from the lips of people when referring to suicide bombers and others who kill without 'humanity' or for religious reasons. But they're no animals - they're misguided humans.

    All religions are bigotted. There's the Jewish 'Family', the Christian 'Family', the Muslim 'Family', the Mormon 'Family' etc - who are all right.

    That's why I'm now agnostic. The Human family is the important one, and we seem keen to destroy it.
     
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    I notice you haven't even watched the videos yet, because you can see several Jews are asked about the contents of the Talmud.

    In the second vid even random Jews on the streets in Israël are asked about it...

    So don't give me no crap... there are a LOT of Jews who really believe what is written in the Talmud and act upon it.

    The Jewish Talmud Exposed

    [video=youtube;ZA-JCLYeDro]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA-JCLYeDro[/video]
     
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    videos from wacky extremist anti-Semites, don't count
     
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    There are a lot of things in the Talmuds with which Jews do agree and likewise many things they don't. If you believe that all Jews think of gentiles as animals that's your problem.

    I guess there are many things in your country you believe in, and others you don't.

    I'm not interested in your vidoes. I've seen them before.They actually contradict Judaism in the first video. I've studied Judaism for years in relation to the Tanakh and the New Testament. The Talmuds are nothing new to me. They were written in a completely different culture and era, in difficult times for the Jews.
    You think that the majority of Jews believe this? On the basis of a few people - 'Orthodox' Jews. Let me give you another fact. 65% of Jews in Israel are convinced atheists or not religious. So it seems a 'lot' of Jews can't be bothered about the Talmuds. Many Jews now simply practise various holidays - rather than HolyDays.
     
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    there are a few obscure comments in the Talmud that have been cherry-picked by bigots, and JUMPED on as "proof" that the Jews are all evil monsters.

    you can't stop stupidity and prejudice. Only expose it.
     
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    The man is Jewish himself.

    Now what's the name for him then? A semitic-anti-semite?
     
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    Yea, but why have the Jews subverted Russia into a communism then, back in the day with tens of millions of deaths as a result?

    Somehow I think the Talmud has got to do something with this, as basically it outlines that the Jews are the "Chosen people" and will come to rule over the rest, just like they did in Russia back in the day?
     
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    Simply put the world would never achieve what it has achieved without the Hebrew people. From Persian courts, To Rome to Spain, to France, to England to the US . Jews have been essential in the growth of human civilization. Just look at the Noble prize winner list... the writers, the musicians, journalists, philosophers,scientists...and on and on. the world should thank the Jews for all you hold dear. The modern world stands on a platform supported by 2 main pillars named Greek and Hebrew.
     
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    You've been reading to much antisemitic literature. The Jewish Bolsheviks were non-religious. After the Revolution teaching Judaism reading Hebrew was banned. On the eve of the Revolution just 300+ out of 20,000+ Bolsheviks and there leaders were banished one by one under Stalin.

    Antisemitism in the Russian Empire was both on cultural level and institutionalized. The Jews were restricted to live within the Pale of Settlement, as well as subjected to sporadic pogroms. In the period from 1881 to 1920, more than two million Jews left Russia.

    Hitler tried to justify invading Russia on the grounds it was ruled by Jewish Bolshevics (Reichstag 1941). Yet Jews were persecuted. under Stalin.

    Several pamphlets etc were written by antisemetic groups of the period. Particularly the Nazi's. Another famous pamphlet (forgotten its title) actually proved a forgery. The Jews have been blamed for many things. They are no more guilty in the history of the world than many other groups of people for atrocities.

    I'm not getting involved in history - except that of Ancient Mesopotamia and the Bible.
     
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    Wait . . . hold the phone . . . Angelfire is still a thing?
     
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    no, he's an Eastern Orthodox Priest

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    No, this is what the Old Testament says.

    God made a covenant with the Israelites, and made them his chosen people.

    he promised to protect them and hold them up as a light unto the nations, as long as they kept his laws and commandments,
     
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    You don't have to watch a video to know idiotic crap.
     
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    Flare thinks this guy in the video, is a Jew. :)
     
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    The Priest is Greek Orthodox or Syriac or maybe Russian Orthodox not Jewish. Notice the cross around his neck?
     
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    kinda obvious he is NOT a Jew.
     
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    He's born and raised Jewish, but converted to Christianity.

    Why I Left Judaism

    [video=youtube;fGTp1Q162Gw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGTp1Q162Gw[/video]

    Just like Benjamin Freedman did.
     
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    Hi Margot,

    Pls see post # 19.

    Btw... nice signature you've got. :wink:
     
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    ah., so he's a self-hating traitorous mother (*)(*)(*)(*)er, like Freedman.

    one has to wonder what happened in his poor miserable life, to make him betray his own people in such a way.

    rape? incest? wasn't hugged by his mommy enough?
     
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    Are you an authority in this question?

    I think that Ovadia Yosef and Moses Maimonides are recognised authorities in Judaism, and everybody can read their interpretation of Talmud and other Jewish holy books.

    BTW, Ovadia Yosef got the biggest funeral in the history of Israel, and here is what he thinks about Jews and non-Jews:

    But the shills that pretend to be so concerned about "racism" never called this guy a racist, they called him "our gret Jewish teacher", that is what many leading Israeli politicians said about the guy who believed that Jews are "Übermenschen", and that non-Jews were created (according to his interpretation of Judaism) to serve the supposed "Master Race", the Jews, like a donkey has to serve his master.
     
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    They call these Jews "self-hating-Jews", but this accusation is ridiculous.

    There are a lot of honest people who happens to be of Jewish origin, but any human being has a choice: he can go on with the dominant ideology of the group he was born in, or he can call a spade a spade and make a free choice.

    Jews are not a race, they are an ideology, based on religion. Most Jews do not believe in God, so this phenomenon cannot be called a religious phenomenon any more.

    So it is up to any individual, he can decide what way he will go.

    Most Zionists believe that Jews stem from Hebrews, and this believe is based on racism and supremacism, not on scientific facts.
     
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    You can be a Jew and not follow Judaism, it is an ethnicity not only a religion. Jews are Hebrews.
     
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    You have confirmed what I said in my previous post.
     

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