Russia running out of cash

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump and his supporters here think Putin is a great leader. But the great leader has led his country into a recession that has lasted 18 months and now they are quickly running out of money. Putin's policies have resulted in the treasury being drained of reserve funds and thanks to sanctions borrowing is not going to be an option.

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  2. ArmySoldier

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    So shouldn't we stop sanctioning them, lend a hand in friendship, and maybe have an actual powerful ally? Or take the Hillary approach and force Russia to do something stupid? What's your end game with Russia?
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, for the same reason NK is not an ally.

    They need to get out of Ukraine.

    Why is the right suddenly all Neville Chamberlain?
     
  4. MrFirst

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    Yeah, it's terrible.
     
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    Putin should ask his oligarch buddies for cash...there's about 100 of them....together they should be worth $$$$billions...oh wait they squirreled away their "hard earned" money in the cursed west!! lol...
     
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    your post is wrong and confused on so many levels.. it's baffling

    1. No, the sanctions are finally having an effect. We shouldn't end them, but Russia can end the sanctions by changing their behaviour which was the reason for the sanctions in the first place.
    2. It takes two to tango. Russia isn't your friend, doesn't want to be, probably won't be for the foreseeable future, when are you going to realise that?
    3. if Russia is so powerful, why are they on the verge of collapse?
    4. something stupid? you mean like invading some other country? Yeah, that's why we sanctioned them in the first place, duh. They've already done something stupid!
    5. Or you are implying that Russia would rather end the world, literally, than just admit defeat and change their behaviour? I don't think highly of the russians, but I atleast don't believe they are that stupid.

    Just stop pretending that it's somehow in the US national interest to "ally" with Russia. This whole notion from parts of the american right wing is just ridiculous and delusional. Even the Russians themselves laugh at your idea that Russia and the US would be allies.

    Neville chamberlain would be proud of you though, appeasing hostile nations and all.
     
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    They should print more. As much as they need and then some. The MMT's here say that is perfectly okay.
     
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    so, first Putin will take from the rainy day fund
    then from the welfare fund

    When will he cut military spending? And would not you, as an ordinary russian, rather have Putin size down the military, than cutting your welfare? Would you not rather have Putin go back to normal relations with the west so that the russian economy can improve again?
     
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    The only Russians in Ukraine are the original inhabitants who refuse to let the Galatians kill them off and take their lands the way they did with the Poles in WWII. As for Crimea, the Russians voted to rejoin Russia and according to the UN the people win. Hey isn't that what the court said when Kosovo declared its independence?

    Oh I forgot, Washington said the situation was different. Of course it was, Washington wanted to break up Serbia but not Ukraine ...since the junta in Kiev was under their control.

    All I know is if we don't get these criminals out of Washington and take back our country, it's going to be the end of civilization as we know it. ..that is if they don't start a war before that to stop the elections.


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    Why are you blaming Putin for what the US and our European toadies have been doing to Russia economically? That makes no sense.

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    Ukraine needs to get out of Crimea, and there is no comparison between Russia and North Korea..
     
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    because he caused it. If you, as a national leader, makes important countries annoyed by you to the point they sanction you, and your economy is ruined, you're not such a good leader are you?
     
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    Russia has become a pariah on the international stage and most of the world no longer cares what happen to it. Putin has created situations in his attempt to recreate the U.S.S.R. that have caused any compassion to wither away and left the people that might lend a hand using both to clap as it falls. Eventually it might not have the fuel to fly fighter aircraft to buzz ships as an impotent threat.
     
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    Russia does not want to be our ally. Russia wants to challenge us economically and militarily. Russia is not a country that can trusted. Russuans never could be trusted even back as a Czarist dictatorship, or when it was a Communist Scum country, or now as a Nazi-Facsist dictatorship. You over your hand to Russia in friendship Russia will bite it like an infected Zombie.

    Russia needs to be destroyed economically and turn apart into 20 pieces. Russia has always had leaders who are scum be it Czars, Commie- Czars, or the Nazi Scum like Putin. As Insaid Russia dies not deserve to exist as a country because just like Nazi Germany Russia is a threat to the decent countries of the world.
     
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    Putin annoyed the US when he wouldn't allow the American corporations to buy up its wealth... and when he kicked out the tax evaders and criminals for robbing the country the way they are doing to Ukraine. Before Putin became president the people of Russia were going hunger, thanks to Yeltsin's naivete in trusting the 'Harvard' boys... who supposedly were there to help it adjust to a free economy.

    Anyway, before anyone connected with a western government steps even one foot into Russia there will be a war... and Russia has one thing that no other nation has and that is the unity of its people when they are under attack.

    Putin is under intense pressure by the hard liners not to take anymore of the lying and deceptions. He has given fair warning and they are well prepared. ..not that Washington gives a damn, they destroyed the Middle East so why not Europe?


    [video=youtube;01uGETV3mZQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01uGETV3mZQ[/video]
     
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    Nobody is going to attack Russia.
     
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    Putin can do what obama does, fire up the printing press.
     
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    So do Soros and Monsanto.
     
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    That's quite debatable in this case.
     
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    Dr. Craig Roberts who was the economic adviser to Pres. Reagan explains the situation in this video and why we are heading into WWIII. He says that Washington and Nato are backing Russia into a corner, and leaving it with no choice but to go to war. This is why Putin was so upset with the reporters. He told them they are being lied to, and they are not telling the people what is going on.

    [video=youtube;i958NiUZm0Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i958NiUZm0Y[/video]
     
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    Russia needs to elect a black community organizer as President of Russia and establish a Federal Reserve Bank that can print up trillions of dollars to prop up the President of Russia's economy. That's what America did for almost eight years.
     
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    Yah..I see..so the Galatians are trying to kill of the cultural retards(Russians) in the east..well they're just returning the favor..since those same cultural retards did the same to the Galatians for decades..and that's Galicians...learn to spell.
     
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    Maybe, Russia will take some hostages so obama will fly a plane load of cash to Moscow, in the middle of the night.....
     
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    I'm not seeing how engaging in a hostile manner with Russia over Ukraine in anyway serves our core interests. Ukraine is of no strategic importance to the US but for Russia, the situation in Ukraine is very important to them. I think our sanctioning of Russia over Ukraine has hurt our ability to cooperate in areas where we need them such as Syria. Just my thoughts.
     
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    This stamp became outdated, without having become urgent. Couldn't provide to the USA political isolation of Russia. On the contrary, line items of Russia in the world only repeatedly amplified in recent years.

    Here a wide range of examples, beginning from intervention of Russia in Syria to the American hysterics about intervention of Russia in process of elections in the USA :) If I it would be told only three years ago I very much, very much was surprised.
     
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    In total on the contrary. Russia wants to be in the world with the whole world. But doesn't want that the USA interfered with internal affairs of Russia and doesn't want that the USA posed the threat in the countries, neighboring to Russia.

    You don't notice again that not Russia builds the military bases around the USA. And not Russia organizes the pro-Russian coups in Mexico or Canada. The USA has surrounded Russia along borders of Russia. And Russia is forced to answer America for the sake of preservation of own safety.

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    The attacks happen not only military. The USA constantly attacks Russia politically and economically.
     

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