ISIS represents Broken Arrow threat

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_nuclear _incident_terminology

    US Department of Defense has officially recognized 32 "Broken Arrow" incidents. It is only a matter of time before the world will be faced with a Broken Arrow type threat that involves terrorists. In my opinion the capabilities of ISIS and the threat matrix that they represent to civilized society certainly includes the possibility of the terrorist army obtaining a nuclear device. US Department of Defense has officially recognized 32 "Broken Arrow" incidents so far, so it is certainly possible. The theft of a nuclear weapon is known as a Broken Arrow incident. There are at least six nuclear weapons that are missing -

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/list-of-broken-arrow-nuclear-accidents-2013-5


    In my opinion the most likely Broken Arrow event that ISIS could represent would be the chance of the terrorist group getting their hands on an IND ( improvised nuclear device ).


    http://www.wmdcommission.org/

    The US Federal Government takes the threat of an IND being detonated in a New York trash can seriously and I have seen the authorities running drills to prepare for this very scenario on Fox News. Now that the US and the American people are being threatened by ISIS I think it is safe to say that the risk of the US facing a Broken Arrow event have increased dramatically. If ISIS is planning an attack on the US mainland it is very likely that they will attempt to trump Al-Qaedas 911 attack on the trade centre and go much bigger. I think that the risk of ISIS attempting a nuclear terrorist attack on the American people is a risk that we need to take into consideration.

    The threat matrix that ISIS poses to civilized nations only increases with every gain that we make against ISIS because the more desperate they become the more likely it is that they will look to nuclear options to help them start the Holy War that they are seeking between the Muslim and Christian worlds. The ISIS terrorists are waging their Jihad upon the world because they believe that we are entering the end times and that we are on the brink of the final battle between good and evil. ISIS have a twisted Islamic ideology and what they want is to destroy the blue eyed European devil. It is verses like this from the Muslim Quran that inspire ISIS' commitment to their Jihad against all Christians/Blue Eyed Devils -

    (20.102) On the day when the trumpet shall be blown, and We will gather the guilty, blue-eyed, on that day - Muslim Quran

    ISIS will stop at nothing so the more gains we make against them the higher the threat level becomes. We know that ISIS has stolen billions of dollars and it is certain that they would look to use those billions to obtain a Broken Arrow nuclear weapon to use against us. For all we know ISIS already has one of the six missing Broken Arrow nukes.

    ISIS could detonate a Broken Arrow nuke in a city like Damascus or even in New York. The nightmare scenario of ISIS destroying a city with a Broken Arrow nuke could very well throw the world into a hellish chaos that could trigger the final battle between the Christian and Muslim worlds that ISIS so desperately wants to bring about.

    Just like us Christians the Muslims believe in End Times prophecy and that Jesus will return to destroy the Anti-Christ. In my opinion it is the city of Damascus that ISIS is most likely to try to destroy with a Broken Arrow nuclear weapon because the Christians believe that the destruction of the city of Damascus is part of the End Times prophecy and also because Muslims believe that it is east of Damascus that will be where Jesus descends when he returns to destroy the Anti-Christ and bring the Final Judgement to non-believers.

    “See, Damascus will no longer be a city
    but will become a heap of ruins. / Isaiah 17

    Allahs apostle said this -

    Allah will send Maseeh ibne Maryam (Messiah son of Mary). Thus he will descend near the White Eastern Minaret of Damascus, clad in two yellow sheets, leaning on the shoulders of two angels.
    (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 8, P. 192-193)

    Aws Ibn Aws al-Thaqafi -

    Jesus, son of Mary, will descend near the white minaret towards the east of Damascus.
    (Tabarani)

    So it is little wonder that it is Syria that ISIS has decided to attack to bring about the final battle, End Times and Judgement Day.

    So what do you reckon? Would you agree that the most likely city that ISIS would seek to destroy with a Broken Arrow nuclear weapon must be Damascus? Why else would ISIS choose Syria as the place to start their Holy War between the Christian and the Muslim worlds?

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    New American Standard Bible
    The LORD a Refuge and Defense.

    For the choir director. A Psalm of David.

    1In the LORD I take refuge;
    How can you say to my soul, “Flee as a bird to your mountain;

    2For, behold, the wicked bend the bow,
    They make ready their arrow upon the string
    To shoot in darkness at the upright in heart.

    3If the foundations are destroyed,
    What can the righteous do?”

    4The LORD is in His holy temple; the LORD’S throne is in heaven;
    His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men.

    5The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked,
    And the one who loves violence His soul hates.

    6Upon the wicked He will rain snares;
    Fire and brimstone and burning wind will be the portion of their cup.

    7For the LORD is righteous, He loves righteousness;
    The upright will behold His face.

    - Psalm 11

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    Most of the Psalms were taken directly from Ugarit poetry.
     
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    Psalm 11 foreshadows the End Times.

    New American Standard Bible
    The LORD a Refuge and Defense.

    For the choir director. A Psalm of David.

    1In the LORD I take refuge;
    How can you say to my soul, “Flee as a bird to your mountain;

    2For, behold, the wicked bend the bow,
    They make ready their arrow upon the string
    To shoot in darkness at the upright in heart.

    3If the foundations are destroyed,
    What can the righteous do?”

    4The LORD is in His holy temple; the LORD’S throne is in heaven;
    His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men.

    5The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked,
    And the one who loves violence His soul hates.

    6Upon the wicked He will rain snares;
    Fire and brimstone and burning wind will be the portion of their cup.

    7For the LORD is righteous, He loves righteousness;
    The upright will behold His face.

    - Psalm 11
     
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    ""One day there will be no snake, no scorpion,
    "There will be no hyena, nor lion,
    there will be neither (wild) dog nor wolf.
    "And thus there will be neither fear nor trembling,
    "For man will then have no enemy.
    "On that day the lands of $uber and Hamazi,
    "As well as twin-tongued Sumer-great mound of the power of lord-ship-
    "Together with Akkad-the mound that has all that is befitting-
    "And even the land Martu, resting in the green pastures,
    "Yea, the whole world of well-ruled people,
    "Will be able to speak to Enlil in one language!
    "For on that day, for the debates between lords and princes and
    kings
    "Shall Enki, for the debates between lords and princes and kings,
    "For the debates betweens lords and princes and kings,
    "Shall Enki, Lord of abundance, Lord of steadfast decisions,
    "Lord of wisdom and knowledge in the Land,
    "Expert of the gods,
    "Chosen for wisdom, Lord of Eridug,
    "Change the tongues in their mouth, as many as he once placed there
    "And speech of mankind shall be truly one!'"

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    God ain't gonna help you. It is unlikely that a nuclear weapon could be detonated even if it fell into unfriendly hands. That is part of the design.
     
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    ISIS is recruiting ‘serial killers’ to carry out bloodshed in the West...
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    ISIS recruitment drive: World’s most dreaded terror group is recruiting ‘serial killers’ to carry out bloodshed in the West
    Sunday 9th October, 2016 - Even as the Islamic State Militant Group (ISIS) continues to suffer defeat in Syria, with the Russian forces battling hard, alongside the pro-Assad Syrian military forces - the world’s most dreaded terror group is already hatching a plan to branch out.
     
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    All is not well within ISIS...
    :fingerscrossed:
    Dramatic coup splits world's most powerful terror group in Mosul, all 58 rebels killed by ISIS, buried in mass grave
    Saturday 15th October, 2016 - Islamic State executed 58 people suspected of taking part in an uprising in Mosul. The terror group reportedly killed the rebels. The bodies were then buried in a mass grave in the city outskirts, local people who witnessed the incident said.
    See also:

    Turkey-backed Syrian rebels attack Islamic State's Dabiq: rebel
    October 15, 2016 - Turkey-backed Syrian rebels began an attack on Islamic State's symbolically potent stronghold of Dabiq in northwestern Syria on Saturday, a rebel commander said, taking territory that has all but cut it off according to a war monitor.
     
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    Coup against ISIS in Mosul fails...
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    Al-Baghdadi aide among dozens executed by ISIS for rebellion plot
    Oct 14, 2016‎ – Islamic State has crushed a rebellion plot in Mosul, led by one of the group's commanders who aimed to switch sides and help deliver the caliphate's Iraqi capital to government forces, residents and Iraqi security officials said.
     
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    Yes when anti-west groups get nukes it'll really hit the fan, for example a terror squad carrying suitcase nukes could come ashore on a western coastline in rubber boats from an innocent-looking merchant ship. (It's not a new idea, the nazis landed saboteur teams in America from U-boats in WW2).
    Or a sub could deposit a big nuke bomb on the seabed on a time fuse a few miles offshore of a coastal city and let the blast, tsunami and radioactivity swamp the city.
    Or a merchant ship or oil tanker carrying a big nuke bomb could sail into one of our ports and KA-BOOM!

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    Yes we all remember when we caught North Koreans on a ship with hidden weapons they had bought from Cuba. We know that North Korea engages in illegal weapons trading so God only knows who they would be willing to sell a nuke to. I also worry about the Pakistanis selling nukes to terrorists.

    Another problem is that a nation like Russia, Iran or China could attack a city with a nuclear device and then blame it on terrorists.
     
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    Yes, under Murphy's Law, if it can happen, it WILL happen, the clock is ticking.
    The only way of trying to avert it would be for America and the West to stop upsetting muslims and hostile regimes like N. Korea, for example if we stopped propping up Israel with cash and super-duper weaponry it might defuse the situation considerably, because at the moment we're on the terror hit list as "Israel's friend".
     
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    Or we could help our friends win the war on terror. I think that we need to get more serious about the war on terror or we are never going to win it.

    We need to be willing to use nukes ourselves if we have to. Imagine what the world would be like right now if the US Government had the gonads to back General Douglas MaCarthur in China. We would not have the problem of North Korea or China right now if Douglas MaCarthur had been given the tools that were needed to take down China.

    Terrorists and hostile regimes need to know that we are willing to use super dooper weaponry against them. And that we will destroy all of our enemies - and protect all friends. Israel is a friend. A best friend. I think that it is very important for USA and the civilized global community to support our friend Israel.
     
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    I've never met a Jew I didn't like, they seem nice friendly people, but I can't understand why America is propping them up with cash and weapons, thereby making America a terror target as "Israel's friend"?
    Sorry to be blunt, but what has Israel ever done for America, and if Israel was to be wiped out (as muslims predict will happen), what effect would it have on America?
     
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    We should never turn our backs on our friends to avoid being a terror target. Israel certainly is Americas friend and a friend in need is a friend indeed. Many refer to Jewish businessman Haym Salomon as 'The man that won the American Revolution' because his support for the revolutionary war was so important to USA gaining independence. Haym Solomon was never repaid for his support and his importance to American independence is not often acknowledged. Haym Solomon is just one of countless Jews that are so important to the history of America, and Jews are important to the history of all civilized western nations because it is Judeo-Christian values that unite us and make us a community. The ideal of liberty does not conflict with the ideal of community and USA is not only part of the global community, but holder of reserve status and leader state of the civilized world so not only does USA have a responsibility to protect, defend and promote civilized Judeo-Christian values, it is in Americans best interest to protect, defend and promote Judeo-Christian values around the world because the global community is one community and if one part of the community is sick then the entire community is sick. So ignoring the sickness that is the Islamic terror that threatens Israel is akin to a person thinking that they can ignore a melanoma since the the rest of their body is healthy. It is not just Israel that Islamic terrorists are at war with - it is the entire Judeo-Christian community and our civilized way of life. If America was to turn its backs on Israel thinking that this would protect America from the cancer that is Islamic terror then the cancer would metastasize and spread to the entire body and in many ways this is exactly what is happening.

    In many ways Jews were the first truly global citizens and while the holocaust is the latest example of Jews being persecuted, human history is full of nations persecuting their Jewish minority and this is more than just a stain on the history of the human race - it is a cancer that must we must be cured of. Of course it is not just Jews that have been persecuted throughout history for being different or a minority but with Jews being the first truly global citizens it is Jews that have suffered the most persecution so it is Jews more than any other people that have been on the front lines fighting against the darkness of irrational, fear driven and ignorant tribalism that is at the heart of all human racism and prejudice. I see Israel as a shining light in a sea of darkness in the middle east. Of course it is not just Islamic terrorism that we must destroy to heal the world but the Sharia mentality of the entire middle eastern muslim world. Not only do we need to defend the shining light that is Israel, we must help to shine that light on all of the middle east and that means not just defeating Islamic terror but also putting an end to the uncivilized Sharia mentality of the muslim nations of the middle east.

    The Jewish concept of Tikkun Olam - that Jews bear responsibility not only for their own moral, spiritual and material wealth, but also for the welfare of society at large - is the key to a model global society. The objective of Judaism and Christianity is to bring about a model society - our objective is to help bring about a world that is on earth as it is in heaven by separating the light from the darkness. This concept of Tikkun Olam does not just apply to Jews and Christians but to all civilized people of the global community. Like I said, liberty does not conflict with community - it is communion that sets us free. By turning our backs on Israel and allowing that shining light to be lost in the sea of darkness that is the middle east we are failing not just the people of Israel but the entire civilized world and humanity itself. Imagine if the Nazi had been successful in exterminating the Jewish people from the European continent and beyond - we would be in a world where the darkness won out over the light. Allowing Israel to be "wiped out" would be akin to the human race losing our humanity and losing the battle between good and evil.

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    But are atrocities like 9/11 too high a price to pay?
    As Bin Laden said- "We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation." - Osama bin Laden to CNN in March 1997
     
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    We need to be prepared to lose entire cities if we have to to defeat global terror. If ISIS or another group wiped out an entire US city then we certainly could not surrender. We should never negotiate with terrorists and we should make no peace deals with terrorists. And if we have to fight terror with terror then we have to be willing to do that. At the end of the day we are all combatants in the battle between good and evil whether we like it or not.

    One thing that we need to end if we are to win the war on terror is criminal compassion. Collateral damage cannot be avoided and we cannot allow a criminal compassion to enter into our decision making or prevent us from making the hard decisions that need to be made.

    We cannot put a price on freedom and we all must be willing to do whatever it takes to protect our freedoms and our civilized way of life.
     
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    Good for you mate, you can join my 'Iron Men' wargame club any time you like; I drum it into my recruits to "Never fear to use overwhelming firepower, let the fear be your enemies"..;)
    However I also tell them not to needlessly go looking for trouble- "The greatest warrior is the one who never has to fight a battle" (Gen. Sun Tzu, 600 BC).
    In that respect, I think we should stop supporting Israel and let them hang out to dry, then the muslim terrorists will have no cause to hit us..:)

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