UK is now a one party state

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  1. Sab

    Sab Active Member

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    Labour has now given up and is poised to reinstall an utterly unelectable scarecrow as leader ensuring that The Conservative Party will keep power until at least 2025.
     
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    They're bringing back Tony Blair?
     
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    Thay didn't choose the Blairite stalking-horse. Time for plan d, e, f, ......
     
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    the man who won 3 general elections...no they aren't. They have the man who has the lowest rating of any leader of the opposition since the history of recording such things
     
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    A dumbed-down population is bound to vote for someone who says what they want to hear, irrespective of how pie-in-the-sky it might be. That's what we have here now, and Corbyn wants his 'fifteen minutes of fame' to last for ever. But politics and world affairs are far from the vox pop minds at the moment - The Great British Bake-off is where it's at. I (*)(*)(*)(*)ing despair, I really do!
     
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    Unless UKIP continue to grow in strength..;)
     
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    I can't see how UKIP could be bigger than the Tories...post Brexit what is actually the point of them?
     
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    Is Maggie Thatcher still dead? Please tell me no.
     
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    UKIP have sizeable public support which will grow unless the Tories pinch some of their ideas (which they're already doing), so in that respect UKIP applies useful pressure simply by existing..:)
     
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    Can't wait for *cough* Norsefire *cough* UKIP to win...
     
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    Bored are we? :roll: Or too short on time to write anything worthwhile?
     
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    ???? wtf is this about?
     
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    The UK will always pretty much be a one party state as long as it uses FPTP as its electoral system. But now it is liable to become, for a time at least, a one specific party state as opposed to a buggin's turn one party state.

    The shame is that the one party in the UK one party state, after every general election, has never had, in my lifetime, the support of the majority of the UK electorate even when they have won the majority of seats....and the adversarial UK system does not encourage consensus on the occasions when the biggest party does not have a majority of seats. The UK prefers coalition, as that maintains the elected dictatorship UK norm, as the largest party does the handing out ofsweeteners to smaller parties or a smaller party to do what they are told (sweeteners like cabinet places and extra remuneration, government cars and the odd small, generally unimportant, policy concession etc) in order to make up the voting numbers to push through what they deem the most essential of their own manifesto policies.

    We have an elected dictatorship every five years, not a democratically elected government...and since 1979 in particular, it has been the same type of government, just sporting different colours,a different name and a different head dictator. There is no democracy in having to vote for what you think is the least worst option out of two, rather than for the option which represents your views out of all the candidates standing. FPTP polarises, which is why most MPs in both the main UK Parties fought against the idea of some kind of PR system for the UK in that referendum....because that would mean no shottie about at being sovereign king of the UK castle.

    I can't see Corbyn making a lot of difference, tbh, given the PLP is more worried about getting themselves elected next time round than they are about taking notice of the reasons for the state of the Labour Party in the UK today, and doing something about it to meet the aspirations of their one time voters. If things haven't turned around for Labour in next year's council elections, they aren't going to any time soon.... and the Tories are in charge indefinitely. Deep joy! :frown:
     
  14. see you next tuesday

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    Corbyn can never win.....just like trump can never win.

    Oh, hang on......!!
     

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