and it ain't significantly Asian either. Leaving the usual suspects. Who as it turns out, are WAY Under stopped-and-frisked relative to their crime rates. Yes, Yes, we know it's because of 'persecution' by those Park Avenue types. But apparently they have not much effect on other poor minorities who have low crime rates. Unlike virtually all other cities, NYC breaks Hispanic from 'white' so we can see the whole picture in addition to just 'Black.' 89% of all Crime in NYC Nonwhite March 4, 2016 - by A.N. Wyatte http://newobserveronline.com/89-crime-nyc-nonwhite/ Nonwhites commit 89% of all crime in New York City, including 97.7% of all shootings, 96% of all robberies, 94.2% of all murders, 94.9% of all Juvenile Felony and Misdemeanor crimes, and 90.6% of all rapes. These figures are contained in the New York City Police Department’s latest “Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City” report, which covers the dates January 1 to December 31, 2015. It can be found on the New York Government website here (PDF). http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/analysis_and_planning/crime_and_enforcement_activity.shtml The report is almost Unique in present-day America because it Openly presents statistics on race and crime compiled from the New York City Police Department’s records management system—statistics that are most often Suppressed by other police departments. In addition, the NYPD breaks down the racial categories correctly, listing “Hispanic” separately instead of grouping it together with “white,” which is what most of the US government does (thereby artificially inflating the “white” crime levels). .......... We don't have a Gun or Crime Problem, we have a Minority (2) Problem. +
Ironically in New York City in recent years Asians have had higher poverty rates than Blacks. There goes the Liberal narrative of poverty being the sole culprit.
Who cares about this type of comparison? You grouped several demos together and compared that number to only one demo. That would be like one team of soccer players with 8 members going up against another team with only one member. In other words, not a valid comparison/matchup.
There aren't any other Significant "demos". I did mention, and the charts show, Asians, etc. You want 'Eskimos/Inuit' included? So you're necessarily going for the "pooh-pooh" EXCUSE instead of any rebuttal since, lets face it, there is NO rebuttal. Oucher! + EDIT to below: Dark skies Again WHIFFED, as well as getting called on his pathetic and goofy discount try. (not enough demos blather) +
Your case warrants no rebuttal. You simply tried to compare numbers between several minority groups to one group in NYC and pass it off as something considerable. I was simply pointing out what you were doing and why you should either throw out your argument or revamp your argument.
Whiffed on what? Your comparison was dishonest. Whites aren't even 50% of NYC, yet you saw fit to compare this one group to several other groups put together. In PF, you are allowed to walk back arguments, change them into something more appropriate, make concessions or whatever. No one will bite you for doing it, but they will respect that you saw the error and will reworking your argument. You can do better than what's in the OP, let's see it.
There are only 2 other sugnificant groups in NYC: 3 with Asians who have 1/4 the Crime Rate. The charts provided both at my link and the NYPD stats link provide further breakdown. And I think I'll post alot more stats as well. Yeah! your gonna love the upcoming ones too. +
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide [.....] Homicide According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for Blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000). Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.[33][34][35] [.....] Robbery According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, the black arrest rate for robbery was 8.55 times Higher than whites, and blacks were 16 times more likely to be incarcerated for robbery than non-Hispanic whites. Robberies with White victims and Black offenders were more than 12 Times more common than the reverse.[38][39] And of course, NYC (and other large cities) has a much higher percent of Blacks than the rest of America. More coming
That's part of the point. Why couldn't you compare each group as individual groups? What you did was lump all "non-whites" into one group and compared their stats to one group, which isn't even a majority population and thought it appropriate. I saw the stats for each group in the links you provided. Go ahead and post those, they can be explained away in another manner.
Color of Crime update/summary excerpts http://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/ Crime rates There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the Lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups. In 2013, a black was Six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race. ...... Urban centers In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for Murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. For the crime of “shooting”—defined as firing a bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely. If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91%, the robbery rate by 81%, and the shootings rate by 97%. In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90%, rape by 81%, and robbery by 90%. ..... +
Sounds like an environmental issue in NYC for some. There are actually places in the United States where blacks are 80% of the population, yet their overall crime rate is lower than the national average.
I post numbers/National and City Stats, you post Goofy Anecdote without citation, no less. After all your complaining you make such a frivolous retort. How hypocritical/dishonest. But thanks for bumping up my string. One needs a 'straight man' to keep slamming the ball. + EDIT: Note yet Another WHIFF below by DarkSkies: "Later". +
What is the purpose of boasting these stats if not to discuss a way forward? Is this a form of passive aggressiveness towards minorities are do you actually want to see change? What do you propose be done?
Deep-sixing the Dem Party which acts as enablers for the worst of minority behavior would be a start.
Your own source doesn't back most of the racist claims made in the OP. http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downlo...planning/year_end_2015_enforcement_report.pdf Also, failing to provide context is dishonest. For instance, in 2006, the median income among blacks in Manhattan was $28,116, compared with $86,494 among whites. That's a tale of two cities.
Welcome to Manhattan where you basically either have to be wealthy, or live in section 8 to be able to live there. Guess which one the Black side is?
Would you be happier if he stated that whites make up 45% of the population but only commit 11% of the crime?
Everybody knows this and everybody who isn't a racist white nationalist denier will acknowledge why. But continue to pretend there was not massive migration of destitute blacks, who fled the über racist oppression of the Deep South for a better life, only to find things were not a whole lot better in northern cities.
It would be a rather insane claim. There are many crimes that aren't reported by the city police department. Trump committed the crime of not renting to blacks in the 1970s. He won't show up on the rap sheets.