Israeli Nukes Threaten World Peace

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  1. SamSkwamch

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    Iran’s ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency said Israel’s nuclear weapons program is a real threat to international peace and security.

    Reza Najafi made the statement in an address to an IAEA Board of Governors meeting in Vienna on Wednesday in reference to a recent revelation by former US secretary of state, Colin Powell, that Israel has 200 nuclear warheads...

    http://financialtribune.com/articles/national/50343/israeli-nukes-threaten-world-peace?

    So much hypocrisy, so little time. We started a war based on lies about nuclear weapons, but our "ally" has been outed by Powell himself as possesing a nuclear arsenal capable of destroying the entire planet. On top of that, Israel has refused any weapons inspectors from even crossing their never demarcated borders. And on top of that, because Israel has refused to become a signatory to the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPF), EVERY SINGLE CENT OUT OF THE 38 BILLION THAT OBAMA JUST GAVE THEM, like the rest of the billions they already have received and have never paid back, IS ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO US LAW!

    This is getting scary for anyone paying attention.
     
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    I should like to point out that nuclear weapons have made the possibility of another world war quite remonte thus saving hundreds of millions of lives. In Israel's case they have saved many Arab and Muslim lives as well as ensuring that another attack from same doesn't result in Israel geometricly increasing their occupation area.

    In short, the biggest supporters of Israel's nukes should be the Arabs and Mislims themselves.
     
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    the only reason Israel exists today, is because they have nukes.

    its the ultimate deterent against the genocidal intentions of many Muslims who hate the Jewish State
     
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    Well, we're concerned about the fallout right? But other than that, who cares?
     
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    I think actually they do have quite a difference in perspective,
    Iran is for offensive mindset while the other is defensive.
    Iran did not know yet that since 1945 no world war has been made because of the deterrence of nuke weapons.
     
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    The Palestinian ministry of Propaganda continue to post BS and hatred posts against it's peaceful neighbor
     
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    As long as we have an Islamic Middle East there will never be peace.
     
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    There were three gigantic points from the OP that were missed. Let me number them for simplicity.

    1) We started a war based on lies about nuclear weapons, but our "ally" has been outed by Powell himself as possessing a nuclear arsenal capable of destroying the entire planet.

    2a/2b) Israel has refused any weapons inspectors from even crossing their never demarcated borders.

    3a/3b) Because Israel has refused to become a signatory to the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPF), EVERY SINGLE CENT OUT OF THE 38 BILLION THAT OBAMA JUST GAVE THEM, like the rest of the billions they already have received and have never paid back, IS ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO US LAW!

    And I hope it is not too far off topic to point out that a) Iran has never done crap to America, and b) Israel has attacked both the US and her allies.

    I also knew that the Israeli nukes, per the hasbara script, were actually safe and good.
     
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    since when is it "illegal" to not join the NNPT?
     
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    The US didnt claim war on every country on the planet that has Nukes - so your creteria is screwed up (imagine that...:wink:)

    We are not signed over that treaty and not bound by it, Iran is and it's the only reason they got help and have any reactors in the first place - so if you signed it and got the perks - please abide to the cons.

    We dont have to, we have what we need, besides your wild imagination and conspirecy are the best weapon we have, the truth will most likly be disapointing.

    That's up to the Americans to decide.
     
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    Israel doesn't threaten to destroy other nations.

    Iran does
     
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    No need to get worked up by this pro-Nazism thread. The main source is Iranian lol
     
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    1) We started a war based on lies about nuclear weapons, but our "ally" has been outed by Powell himself as possessing a nuclear arsenal capable of destroying the entire planet.

    2a/2b) Israel has refused any weapons inspectors from even crossing their never demarcated borders.

    3a/3b) Because Israel has refused to become a signatory to the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPF), EVERY SINGLE CENT OUT OF THE 38 BILLION THAT OBAMA JUST GAVE THEM, like the rest of the billions they already have received and have never paid back, IS ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO US LAW!
     
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    foreign aid is not contingent on signing the NNPT.
     
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    EVERY SINGLE CENT OUT OF THE 38 BILLION THAT OBAMA JUST GAVE THEM, like the rest of the billions they already have received and have never paid back, IS ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO US LAW!
     
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    In reference to:

    Your excellent points have not been "missed", they've been ignored & evaded in place of the usual hate filled Hasbara slander & other random comments


    Re: Your:
    1) America was driven to war by America's same infestation of Zionist Lobbies & network of "Israel First" Hasbara Trolls that are trying to drive America to War with Iran:

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03

    As of this moment, thousands of LOYAL American Vets. linger in the hals of our V.A. Hospitals because of this same infestation of Zionist Lobbies & network of "Israel First" Hasbara Trolls that are eager to send Americans to die for their "Greater Israel" (Please see Israel's grand Oded Yinon Plan)


    Re: Your:
    2) Why should Iran have to allow such microscopic examinations in the first place when Israeli leaders have repeatedly threatened the entire planet [1], [2]& malevolently orchestrated many events in the Region simply by threatening to use their "Sampson Option"

    The very requirement of such an egregious double standard by which Iran is required to undergo "National Body Cavity searches" seems, itself to be a dynamic of the not-so-subtle "Sampson Option" influence on how things are run in the Mid East.

    Zionist apologists for the Genocidal Atrocities of Israel repeatedly ask "Why pick on Israel?, a country that has started most all of its wars[3]

    Why, then, single out Iran for micro-inspections & prohibition from building a defensive / deterrent nuclear arsenal when it has attacked no one in 300 years. How many nations have that distinction?


    Re: Your:
    3)
    $38 Billion to Israel is really a pittance compared to the $ Trillions of dollars & thousands of LOYAL American lives that have been sacrificed to the parasitic pariah State that repeatedly betrays the US.

    In addition to this handout to the true "Welfare State", what is especially noteworthy is that 81% of LOYAL Americans strongly oppose this additional tribute to the Zionist Regime:


    “81% of Americans Oppose “Aid” to Israel”
    http://newobserveronline.com/81-americans-oppose-aid-israel/

    EXCERPT “Some 80.8 percent of Americans oppose the $38 billion in “aid” that the Jewish lobby-controlled U.S. Government last week pledged to Israel, an IRmep poll fielded by Google Consumer Surveys has found.

    At the same time, the Jewish lobby will pour money into campaign funds of politicians who support this “aid” package, while the controlled media will demonize any candidate for office who dares to oppose it.

    The poll found that the vast majority of Americans want the $38 billion “aid” pledge to be redirected toward other priorities, such as caring for vets, education, and lowering national debt.” CONTINUED


    Make no mistake, Israel has repeatedly proven to be America's most treacherous back-stabbing threat with betrayals as old as the Lavon Affaire to the murdering of Americans in Iraq, today:

    “Israeli Snipers Killing US Troops In Iraq”
    Source: Joanna Francis and CNN
    http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/isra...ng-hundreds-of-american-soldiers-in-iraq.html


    “Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document”
    http://www.newsweek.com/israel-flagged-top-spy-threat-us-new-snowdennsa-document-262991

    “An 82-page analysis concludes that Israel is currently the greatest threat to US national interests”
    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c...eatest-threat-to-us-national-interests/22135/

    EXCERPT “ (*)It’s a paper entitled “Preparing For A Post Israel Middle East”, an 82-page analysis that concludes that the American national interest is fundamentally at odds with that of Zionist Israel.

    The authors conclude that Israel is currently the greatest threat to US national interests because its nature and actions prevent normal US relations with Arab and Muslim countries and, to a growing degree, the wider international community.

    The study was commissioned by the US Intelligence Community comprising 16 American intelligence agencies with an annual budget in excess of $ 70 billion.”CONTINUED

    That's Right! 16 American intelligence agencies with an annual budget in excess of $ 70 billion have concluded that Israel is currently the greatest threat to US national interests

    So, who should you believe?

    - 16 US intelligence agencies

    OR

    - "Israel Advocates" recruited, trained & paid by Israel's P.M.'s Office

    “‘PMO stealthily recruiting students for online advocacy’”
    Government to play behind-the-scenes role in spreading pro-Israel information on social media via universities
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/pmo-stealthily-recruiting-students-for-online-advocacy/





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    [1] “JEFFREY BLANKFORT: “ISRAEL IS THE MOST IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE FUTURE OF THE PLANET”

    http://america-hijacked.com/2012/08/...entire-planet/
    “Israeli Professor:’We Could Destroy All European(*)Capitals’
    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-203093

    EXCERPT The news item below is from 2003, but shows the Zionist mentality. You reap what you sow - Western Imperialists have created a monster...

    Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.

    (*)"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force."

    Creveld argued that Israel wouldn't care much about becoming a rogue state."CONTINUED




    [2] “ISRAELI NUCLEAR THREATS AND BLACKMAIL”
    http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar...lithreats.html

    “The Samson Option Still Threatens the World”
    Official policy and threats
    EXCERPT “Not surprisingly, no nation state has attempted to attack Israel since 1973.

    A former Israeli official justified Israel’s threats. “You Americans screwed us” in not supporting Israel in its 1956 war with Egypt. “We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us.”[14](*)

    General Moshe Dayan, a leading promoter of Israel’s nuclear program[15], has been quoted as saying “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.”[16]

    Amos Rubin, an economic adviser to former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, said "If left to its own Israel will have no choice but to fall back on a riskier defense which will endanger itself and the world at large... To enable Israel to abstain from dependence on nuclear arms calls for $2 to 3 billion per year in U.S. aid."[17]

    In 1977, after a right-wing coalition under Menachen Begin took power, the Israelis began to use the Samson Option not just to deter attack but to allow Israel to “redraw the political map of the Middle East” by expanding hundreds of thousands of Israeli settlers into the West Bank and Gaza.

    [18] Then-Minister of Defense Ariel Sharon said things like "We are much more important than (Americans) think. We can take the middle east with us whenever we go"[19] and

    "Arabs may have the oil, but we have the matches."[20](*) He proclaimed his - and many Likud Party members' - goals of transforming Jordan into a Palestinian state and “transferring” all Palestinian refugees there.

    (*)A practice known worldwide as "ethnic cleansing."

    To dissuade the Soviet Union from interfering with its plans, Prime Minister Begin immediately “gave orders to target more Soviet cities” for potential nuclear attack. Its American spy Jonathan Pollard was caught stealing such nuclear targeting information from the U.S. military in 1985.[23] CONTINUED
     
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    What a great line :)

    thx :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
     
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    It's US law makers that apporved (and pushed) this aid - I'm going to bet they know of the law better than you.
     
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    prove it, if u can
     
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    They do and they know that Israel has nukes.
     
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    Israel has had nukes for a long time. It is the only way they have been able to keep a state in an area of the world composed of muslims, some of which, perhaps many of which, want the jews OUT. If any nation needed nukes to keep from being over run by barbarian hordes, that would be Israel.

    Israel, unlike the people who surround them are very responsible, with their nukes. They are used as a deterrent. They need that. What is these radical armies had some nukes? How responsible would they be with such weapon? And be intellectually honest here in your reply.

    I do not agree with much of what Israel does. They have some hard nosed conservatives who create problems, will never arrive at a Palestinian state, and will continue to settle jews on land set aside for the Palestinians. Complete idiocy, and wrongness, that does not serve anyone but Israel. And at the same time, since this is not a simple situation, they have Hamas who's charter is never to accept Israel as a state, and who wants to get rid of Israel. And they want to kill jews. That the Palestinians in Gaza elected these bastards, shows that some of the Palestinians are not the guys with white hats either. So there are not white hats here, on either side. And yet, many on the left of course lay all blame on Israel. For their minds are apparently not sophisticated enough to grasp the totality. Same with some on the right, for whom Netan-yahoo can do no wrong. Such brains will never solve anything, nor be involved in peace. The Palestinians, Hamas, are not exemplar human beings. If they could make the jews the victims, they would love it, and dance in the streets over it. Reality is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), with few rainbows, unicorns and ice cream, viewed from the safety of your armchair in America.
     
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    So does India and many other countries, but the US has to fear only Israel for your mad theories to stick.
     
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    Lol I may not agree with all you say but fair is fair, and I appreciate your balance. I support Israel's right to exist but like many Israelis do question certain Conservatives for sure. There are some extremists I just can't support. It is my opinion as well, when doors are closed and politicians
    don't have to posture, people like Netanyahu are a lot more flexible than you think.

    As for the nukes, people forget Israel got nukes because it was in fact the Soviets threatening to nuke them that caused them to do this.

    France in fact built Israel's first nuke reactor contrary to British and US requests not to.

    The US never wanted Israel to have nukes. However Israel got them because in the 60's the Soviets were the power behind Egypt, Syria, Iraw and even Jordan for awhile pushing war against Israel.

    In fact the US accused by many as a war monger prevented at least 3 nuke attacks by the Soviets on Israel and Israel shooting back.

    We came close so close. During the 73 Yom Kippur War when Dayan was caught completely off guard and made a fool of , it was General Sharon
    in the Sinai who averted a disaster and turned the Egyptians back while the IDF barely managed at first to hold off attacks from Syria.

    When Israel turned it around the Soviets had a drunk Colonel who prepared to launch nukes at Israel and it was the US that intervened
    to get Moscow to pull out the Colonel. People forget just how jacked up the Soviets were to take out Israel.

    The US saw not just Israel but Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Oil states all in danger from the Soviets and in those days the Shah of Iran
    was a Western ally as was Turkey. Egypt, Syria and Iraq were puppets of the Soviets.

    Some of us remember the role of the US in those days. In 1967 and in the 70's close calls with the Soviets near Israel air space brought the world
    to an edge it to this day was not made aware of.
     
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    The closest call came in 1983 when a sick, dying and delusional Soviet Leader Yuri Andropov came within 48 seconds of launching nukes because he thought that the NATO war game Able Archer 83 was REAL!

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