Labour suspends Jackie Walker over Holocaust comments

This is so screwed up. What did this poor women do that is so wrong? It seems there is a concerted effort to make people scared to use free speech. Were fascists not famous for this? If we can't be free to express ourselves politically, then what have we got left? Who exactly is this Labour MP John Mann anyways, and who does he work for?


Momentum’s vice-chair also faces being removed from campaign group following leaked footage from party’s antisemitism training event

Momentum vice-chair Jackie Walker has been suspended from Labour over controversial comments she made at a party training event.

Leaked footage showed the campaigner saying she had not found a definition of antisemitism she could work with.

The footage also showed her questioning why Holocaust Memorial Day was not more wide-ranging to include other genocides.

Labour said it did not comment on individual party memberships but it is understood Walker has now been suspended....

Walker, who along with her partner is Jewish, previously released a statement apologising for any offence. In an interview with Channel 4 News, she also questioned why Holocaust Memorial Day doesn’t mark genocides that occurred prior to the Nazis....
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...uspends-jackie-walker-over-holocaust-comments

Crazy times.

 

so folks who mourn Nakba Day should also mourn the Pogroms against the Jews, the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide, the genocide against Native Americans, the Holodomor?

this lady is stupid and her ideas are stupid.

 

No, you said that and that was your idea.

She simply questioned why Holocaust Memorial Day was not more wide-ranging to include other genocides.

 

yeah, and that's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid.

why should Holocdaust Day also include the genocide of the Native Americans, Armenians, the Ukrainian famine, the Irish famine, the Nakba, etc etc?

her ideas are stupid.

 

Those are your ideas. She simply suggested making it more inclusive. It makes sense for those wishing to combat anti-Semitism. Some of course, do everything they can to keep anti-Semitism alive.

 

Holocaust Day is about remembering the millions of innocent Jews who were slaughtered by the Nazis and their allies.

its not about Ukrainians, Native Americans, Palestinians, Chinese, etc etc.



what these people are basically saying is this: "why do these Jews need a day just for their suffering? is their suffering special? is their suffering more important than the suffering of other peoples? Jewish suffering isn't really that significant"




imagine what would happen if folks went to a memorial for the Native American genocide, the Holodomor, the Nakba, the Armenian Genocide, and demanded that the suffering of other non-related groups also be mentioned.

there would be hell to pay

 

You completely missed the point, but that's fine.

 

i wonder what would happen if you went to an event about Black Slavery, or the Holodomor, or Hiroshima & Nagasaki, or the Irish Famine, and DEMANDED that all other suffering events be mourned equally at the same time.

some folks would laugh, but more folks would yell and scream about how insensitive such a person is being.

events of mass suffering isn't a competition, they all deserve equal attention and all deserve their own unique memorials

 

Her words are being twisted. After looking at this, it turns out they went after her for pointing out the Jewish connections to the slave trade.

 

That woman is a raving antisemite as are quite a few of the more radical left in Labour.

She's not Jewish she just claims to have Jewish ancestry so she can bash them all day.

Lastly Jews dabbled very little in the slave trade to the point not even worth mentioning so her stating they were chief financiers of the colonial slave trade is incredibly antisemite. What's crazy is that several Labour leaders have been suspended for the same thing but get reinstated quickly.

Pretty sad I think, the Jews were there first but England is blind, Few years I expect them to rename the whole plot the United Caliphate

 

which has NOTHING to do with the Holocaust.

this hateful woman, decided to use a day of mourning for millions of dead innocent Jews at the hands of the Nazis, to push her anti-Jewish agenda.

if you wanna talk about slavery, do it at an appropriate event!!!

imagine what would happen if you went to an event commemorating the millions of victims of the African slave trade, and demanded they also talk about the Ukrainian famine. there would be fists flying!!!

 

That's the thing. Hew words are being twisted. Probably to make you feel enraged.

 

I would NEVER attend an event commemorating the Holodomor, the Irish Famine, the African Slave trade, the American Indian genocide, The Nakba, and try to use the event to push an unrelated agenda.

its not cool, its hurtful, its very insensitive, and it suggests that the suffering of one people is more valuable than the suffering of another.

all events of mass suffering are unique in their own way, they all deserve their own memorials, and they all deserve their memorials to be respected and not abused for a unrelated agenda.

 

That is all part of twisting her words and the motives of her accusers.

This is about them trying to connect anti-Semitism to Corbyn and what set them off was not her comments on how the holocaust and other atrocities need to be remembered, but her comments on the Jewish slave trade.

Do a quick search and check back. You will see I'm 100% right again.

 

Ahem, Polish Catholics, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Mentally disabled, and others also perished in the Holocaust.

 

did you read the title of the thread?

you should, you wrote the thing.

 

I copied and pasted it per the rules of this board. I then went and researched this issue myself. I am just letting folks know what is really going on here.

 

yeah, insensitive (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) decided to use a Holocaust event to push her hateful agenda.

not cool, not cool at all.

if she did this at a American Slavery event, she'd probably get a black eye.

 

you know very well what she did wrong.

let her go to an American Slavery memorial event, demand they also talk about Hiroshima & Nagasaki, and see what happens to her.

 

I tinkled all over your original post and the ridiculous claims your making there to get a rise out of poor ron.
Your not revealing the results of research if you twist it or out right fabricate your findings haha

But seriously Sam that lady is crazier than a June bug. I don't believe there is an antisemite behind every tree like some Jewish folks but I reckon they've earned the right to be a bit paranoid eh? she's a nasty one

and since you brought it up.. Let's go poke around at Labour not just her mhm, maybe catch a big fish

 

She stepped out of the hive-mind structure of how to talk about the holocaust and which opinions to hold?

Burn the witch who refuses to suck the zio pimple.

 

How is it stupid to ask a question?

How is it stupid to recognize that fully 40% of the victims of the Nazi genocidal machine were not Jewish?

How is it stupid wonder about the implication of that 40%, or to conclude that there in no safety for anyone if we fail to recognize that all people can fall victim to such hateful projects?

How is it stupid to wonder why one group of people's pain takes precedence in the public discourse over the pain and suffering of other groups who also suffered?

How is it stupid to acknowledge that individuals in an oppressed people group have also participated in the oppression of other people groups?

How is it stupid to recognize that selectivity in regard to which horrors we publicly acknowledge is how societies create the blind spots that enable similar horrors to be repeated against other uncelebrated victims?

 

Imagine what would happen if we were to stop acting like some groups are special?

Imagine what would happen if we were to recognize that if we look back far enough, EVERYBODY has ancestors who were slaves, who were oppressed, who were chased from their homes, who were brutalized, raped and starved.

Imagine what would happen if we were to publicly recognize that the Nazi Holocaust was not some anomaly, but rather that similar behavior has been shamefully common in human interactions up through the present day.

Imagine what would happen if we were to acknowledge the myriad Final Solutions that have been attempted and how many have succeeded.

Imagine what would happen if we were to stop talking about 6 million victims and recognize that there have been hundreds of millions over the course of the millennia.

Imagine what would happen if we were use memorial days like this to finally recognize that designating some groups as special or different is basic not only to how genocidal projects begin, but also how bystanders convince themselves they are safe from it, that it is not their problem.

 

go to a African Slavery memorial and demand they also talk about the Armenian genocide.

watch what happens

 

Having a particular event to memorialize the suffering of one particular people generally "suggests that the suffering of one people is more valuable than the suffering of another."

Even a cursory study of history is enough to demonstrate there are not enough days in the year for every event of mass suffering to have its own day or commemorative event.

I recommend we put them all in a single People-have-treated-each-other-horribly Day. Then the other 364 days can be Now-how-are-we-going-to-prevent-it-from-happening-again Day.