Kremlin criticizes arrival of US military in Ukraine

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  1. JakeJ

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    The Kremlin said on Friday the arrival of about 300 U.S. paratroopers in Ukraine to train Kiev's National Guard could destabilise the situation in the east of the country, where pro-Russian separatists are fighting Ukrainian government forces.
    Ukraine has repeatedly asked for international help to boost its defensive capabilities. Western countries have so far declined its requests to supply weapons, while offering non-lethal military aid and training.
    "The participation of instructors or specialists from third countries on Ukrainian territory, where the domestic Ukrainian conflict is unresolved ... could destabilise the situation," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters in Moscow during a conference call.
    He was referring to the arrival of the U.S. paratroopers in western Ukraine this week to begin a six-month training rotation with three battalions.

    http://www.worldbulletin.net/haber/158010/kremlin-criticizes-arrival-of-us-military-in-ukraine

    Ukraine is not a NATO country and we have no economic interests in Ukraine. Nor has Congress authorized any military action in Ukraine. Despite all this, American troops are now in Ukraine supposedly to train the Ukraine military how to kill other Ukrainians more efficiently.

    The promise of Hillary Clinton to recreate the Cold War against Russia is already underway. In addition to her vowing to attack the Russian military and civilians in Syria, she openly advocates an arms race, nuclear weapons race and renewal of the Cold War.

    While this SHOULD be the #1 issue in the election and #1 news story of the MSM, the propaganda corporate MSM will instead continue to push for war against Russia and declare the only issue of the election is that Trump tried unsuccessfully to kiss some women decades ago - declaring this means he is a sex predator.

    The USA putting troops into the Ukraine is a huge foreign policy development news - but is essentially censored by the MSM.
     
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    The war in Ukraine has restarted, just the way Washington wanted it to with the assassination of the Donetsk hero Motorola. So I guess Biden's visit two weeks ago wasn't in vain.

    Here is a chilling speech by the president of Donetsk Alexander Zacharchenko. I don't think even Putin can hold him back this time.


    [video=youtube;8n4E_kkcpp4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n4E_kkcpp4[/video]
     
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    That's not entirely accurate. As the National Security Strategy put it, there is only one "single sustainable model for national success." The United States "will actively work to bring the hope of democracy, development, free markets, and free trade to every corner of the world." "Free trade," it says, is "true freedom."

    And indeed:

    Aside from that, this is what's driving U.S. moves against Russia, as Secretary of State Dean Acheson said in 1963:

     
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    Just wait until we retaliate on Russia for attempting to tamper with our election and hacking all over the place by selling weaponry to the Ukraine. A Hack Back is probably not enough.
     
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    What is your evidence? Oh, the Clinton team said so. That's right.
     
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    Hillary Threatens Nuclear War

    Video: 4:30

    [video=youtube_share;y0U0wGAlpgM]http://youtu.be/y0U0wGAlpgM[/video]

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    This is funny! Do you realize that we have regime change freaks all over the world bribing and tampering with the election processes in different countries? Why do you think there is such a clamp down on government officials and bribery by Putin, and why he kicked out the NGO's?

    Either Clinton is paranoid and assumes Russia is doing what the US does, or it's a ruse to distract from the real issues ...like the E-mails and all her other criminality.
     
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    Motorola is no hero he us a terrorist as bad as any Chechen Muslim terrorist. He is also a traitor. The disposal of Motorola is the same as flushing a piece of fecal matter didn the toilet. Zahkarachenko is not a president he is self proclaimed despot and deserves the same fate as Motofoto. In fact if there us any justice in the world Zakhzrachenko should stand trial at The Hague for war crimes or terrorism fir shooting down the Dutch plane.
     
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    How is this news? NATO has had soldiers in Ukraine helping to train the Ukranian army even before the revolution.
     
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    Usa is mostly full of (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Maybe usa will take their soldiers out of ukraine if russia does it too? Including from crimea. Until then i wish our ukrainian friends all the best of luck as they continue to kill russian rebel scum.
     
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    You mean the Ukrainian Nazi friends the best of luck. But what about the majority who is not so inclined?
     
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    I bet Russia would do that if we pulled all out troops from all other countries in the world.
     
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    The Dark Side I sense in you.
     
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    OP

    "The West (has) become a dangerous and destructive force in the world." (Bitter Lake)

    Ain't that the truth?!! Batten down the hatches folks 'cos it won't be an easy ride!
     
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    I don't think Russia would leave Syria until IS is destroyed; the Russians know how pernicious IS is even if we're too stupid to.
     
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    'LGBT'? [​IMG] :roflol:
     
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    If so, he doesn't know what happened at this years 'attempted' parade in Kiev. But that's right, it's hidden by our media. Going to war is more important.
     
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    You mean that it could make the Ukrainian military more effective, and therefore a greater threat to the separatists and their Russian supporters in the east.

    Good thing it's only a proxy war, right? Hopefully no one gets nuked if Russia doesn't get its way in Donbass. Of course, Crimea will be in some trouble if their little spearhead in Ukraine falls, and then things could get interesting.
     
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    "Military advisors" is just a diversionary word for "advanced special forces troops." We only sent "military advisers" to Vietnam too and now have 5,000+ military advisers in Iraq, including firing howitzers into Iraq's second largest city while USA military advisers in aircraft are dropping bombs on the city.

    This is one way the USA puts itself into and creates wars. It puts a few of our troops into a setting calling them "advisers" and daring the other side to kill them lest then THEY have started a war with the USA.
     
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    Ah, the American Dark Empire once again attracted to what it loves, war. We so wanted to be close to the killing that we put one of our ships right close to Yemen, so perhaps we could get in to it. Perhaps if we were in range of a missile, they would fire on us. We love it.

    Ukraine is none of our business. None. But my nation loves war, it loves death and destruction, and it loves being the world's biggest bully.

    If America had the best interests of others in world, if we really wanted to be a force for good, for peace, that would be one thing. But that is not the America we live in today. All that our gov't is really interested in, is representing the interests of a group of sociopathic robber barons, who they have even allowed to plunder America in order to max out their wealth.

    Whereas for our entire history with the old USSR and now Russia, we had the intelligence to at least give them respect, given they have the power to literally end the US forever. And yet now that is gone. We used to understand that Russia needed to feel secure from people like us, that Russia had a right to economic security, but now that too is gone, in this tale told by an idiot.

    All that I am seeing from my America today is certain evilness. I attribute that to the FDR model being dismantled, unleashing the robber barons, to not only restructure our economy to benefit only the robber barons, but to also turn foreign policy over to these sociopaths, where only their interests are represented. It is not in the interest of the American people to be war mongers. To try to put other nations under the bootheels of our fascist robber barons. In fact, it is a threat to americans, this irresponsible behavior driven by an insatiable greed.

    As Daniel Ellsburg said, follow the money. It will always lead to the culprits, the root cause of war, war mongering. As Gen Butler tried to tell us long ago, war is a racket. A racket of the robber barons, and their puppets, the politicians, which are enabled by an American pubic who do not have enough sense to get in out of the rain.
     
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    How do you know US forces are firing howitzers and dropping bombs in Iraq?

    And what are they going to do in Ukraine other than help Ukrainian forces? They're not about to invade Russia, not even under the guise of being advisers. Maybe they'll end up helping with trying to retake the separatist regions as you've basically indicated, but would that be starting a war? They'd be meddling in the affairs of Ukraine, but on the side of the government and its military.

    With the argument/excuse that Russia is behind the separatist movement and is taking away Ukraine's territory by force, our "military advisers" have a legitimate reason to be there if so requested by Kiev.
     
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    Freeing Syria from Isis will not be an easy thing. The Saudis are giving them money to leave Mosul for Syria so they can turn it into a fanatic Islamic state... something Washington has planned all along. At the same time Russia can be condemned by Washington and all its minions for attacking the poor refugees who are entering Syria to escape the fighting in Mosul. If you can believe it.
    :wall:
     
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    Honestly, Russia's chief interest in the Ukrain is the web of oil pipelines. The U.S.'s chief interest is attempting to keep those pipelines flowing freely.


    http://eegas.com/ukraine.htm
     
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    Vlad and his mates said this below a while back, he seems to be itching to strut his stuff-

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