The Gruesome Reality of Racist South Africa

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/180781/gruesome-reality-racist-south-africa-arnold-ahlert

There are many people on the left-wing side of the political spectrum who scoff at the idea that any white person could have legitimate concerns about whites losing their majority status in the US. That any resistance to the idea is based on nothing but illogical fear, and not real world results such as the subject matter of this article.

3,000 racially motivated murders of whites in South Africa by blacks in just 10 years. That's more than the number of murders attributed to the KKK over a period of nearly 8 decades (and most of these murders were of criminals, not innocent people). The murders in South Africa are either fully endorsed by the Government/President ("Kill the Boer!"), or they simply try and hide them and pretend there is nothing going on. Many even view this as "karma" for the apartheid system that was in place up until over 2 decades over.

I can't help but wonder, is this kind of thing what we have to look forward to in the US and Europe as the demographics continue to change? Minorities killing whites for revenge and "justice", with an increasingly left-wing Government willing to condone it (or ignore it)?

It can be argued that this very thing is already happening, if the rape/murder statistics between blacks and whites is any indication. In every 9 out of 10 violent crimes that happen between blacks and whites, whites are the victims, despite the societal narrative that blacks are the victims of whites in society being reinforced constantly.

 

Just as with the persecution of christians, the western world is mostly silent, because of shame of their part. Very sad. I think you should condemn genocides no matter what, even if they happen to be white, or christian.

 

Perhaps we should start a program to admit Boer refugees to the US.

 

The "shame" is perpetuated by Marxist "conflict theory" adherents, determined to undermine the foundations and histories of every Western society. Having a guilty population is helpful in getting them to abandon the status quo in favor of radical change.

 

Guess nobody noticed that 300 racial murders per year within a population of 22 million or so, is 1.3 per hundred thousand or so. Nothing like skewing the numbers to make them look worse than they are (not that they are good to begin with). And also interesting that there is absolutely no acknowledgement that RSA is a nation that only a generation removed from segregation and racial oppression of the worst sort. It takes time to heal and a longer time for the heels to die out.

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I guess having a fearful population is also helpful in getting them to abandon the status quo in favor of radical change. Is that part of nationalist "conflict theory", or just Trumps art of the deal?

 

How come this attempt at minimizing the number of dead is missing from every discussion involving the KKK and black lynchings? That was only 39 murders per year in a country with a much larger population, yet I don't see a single left-winger try and minimize what happened to blacks at the hands of the KKK.

Except there's not really any indication that this is happening. Nobody is even admitting there's a racial violence problem in South Africa, and your post is an example. The Government, when they are not singing "Kill the Boer", is ignoring the problem's racial aspect. They are chocking it up as nothing but simple crime.

The only way this situation is resolving is that more whites are being murdered, and many more are leaving South Africa entirely.

But how many more whites should be killed by blacks before someone like you starts paying attention? That's the real question.

That's not conflict theory at all.

 

So the murder of white farmers is an part of the healing process, so the heels die out sooner?

I think you ought to turn in your credentials as a compassionate human being with this attitude

 

There was a cost for getting rid of apartheid. That cost was South Africa dropping from a first world nation to a third world nation.

It's Mad Max down there.

 

Rioting students have shut down the University of Capetown.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-d...dent-protesters-rubber-bullets-065142244.html

 

Rather that's the cost of the Boers trying to hold onto Apartheid about 50 years longer than it should have been. They should have liberalized like the rest of the Commonwealth nations around the 50's. Same with Australia and the continued travesty of their treatment of Aborigines.

 

well while I would take this with a grain of salt in comparing the two... what I would instead suggest and recommend you worry about, is the day blacks finally start showing up for jury duty at the same percentage rates that whites show up, and they start using jury nullification to let off black criminals despite them being guilty of a crime... thats the day you should really worry about, the sneaky backdoor that any jury could perform and could be mobilized nationwide if blacks showed up at the same rates of whites...

imagine the inner cities in america after that...

(although to be honest I don't think they would return not-guilty verdicts, it would just be a lot of hung juries and prosecutors would be left asking if they should just call this time served while they waited in jail for crimes, or if they should retry the case, or try to move it to another venue, which might be denied for most crimes they prosecute)

 

Just another example of left wing hypocrisy. Nothing to see here.

 

There is no "good" time to take power away from whites.

 

The equality clause of their constitution was drafted by critical race theorist Kimberle Crenshaw. Intersectionality abounds!

Hence why it says that discrimination is illegal except when the racial majority considers it fair.

Fun story: one of my best mates is a Zimbabwean. One day the local law officer came to his house and said "men with assault rifles are coming to shoot you and your children. You must run or you will be murdered." So they left their farm of many generations with nothing. A year later the local authorities got in contact and offered a pittance wage for them to come back and run their stolen farm, because those who took it over were completely incompetent. He told them that if he ever saw them in person he would not be able to hold himself back from gouging their eyes out, and to (*)(*)(*)(*) off.

There's talk in SA that 'voluntary' redistribution of land is failing to have much impact, and a similar (though hopefully less genocidal) hard redistribution is coming.

Get out of there and let them have their failed state. Unfortunately the same thing will happen here eventually, just with the parasitic poor taking over rather than murderous blacks.

 

They the Afrikaans lack that deed of sale with those land that they've owned,
but I certainly don't know if they made titles before with those ancestral lands.
De Klerk missed this one before.

 

No, what those of us "on the left-wing side of the political spectrum" "scoff" at is simply the morally unsupportable argument that white economic and political supremacy and the systemic immiseration of other racial groups should be perpetuated because whites may have to endure a bit of payback if they change their pernicious subjugating and dominating ways.

I suppose that you'd prefer to simply think that the high incidence of black on white assaults and homicides is merely a matter of blacks manifesting the same gratuitous, racial dominance-preserving, and morally unjustified racism that was once visited upon them by their white oppressors, rather than acknowledging that the rage and violence being directed against whites today is in fact provoked rage and violence, i.e. the legacy of the cruelty and brutality endured by blacks during the era of apartheid. Or perhaps you simply chalk it up to animalistic blacks behaving like the savage beasts that you believe them to be?

Well, then it would behoove Mighty Whitey to maintain his racial dominance and keep blacks and Hispanics thoroughly economically and politically disempowered in perpetuity. Well, you do seem to be inferring that the albocracy should simply stay the course of maintaining white supremacy. Essentially, your advice to your fellow whites is let's not do the righteous and enlightened thing because it's too risky, let's remain oppressors because it's the more prudent course of action. In other words, you're counseling the perpetuation of the moral crime of structural racism out of moral cowardice.

Oh those scary black men with their penchant for ravishing our white womenfolk, we better double down on subjecting them to our racial dominance before it's too late. LOL!

Well, enough with the sarcasm, I'll merely point out the ole Let's-shift-the-focus-from-our-sins-to-their-sins gambit, the They're-guilty-of-isolated-acts-of-racial-hatred-too-therefore-let's-stop-focusing-on-the-unjustness-of-our-system-of-white-hegemony argument involves a bit of rather lame reasoning; and amounts to opting for pathetic defensiveness, rather than mustering the moral courage to take the moral stance of unconditionally opposing structural racism and calling for its total abolition forthwith. Well, FYI, only by choosing the morally right and courageous option for the poor and oppressed can we create a better future, and although it may be a quite challenging proposition for you-all on the right-wing side of the political spectrum, we all need to strive do so; to be a part of moving society in a progressive, rather than a reactionary direction.

 

So...white people deserve to be brutally murdered because they had been racist for some time.

 

Hmm, and why, pray tell, would African Americans wish to engage in jury nullification? Could this perhaps be because the criminal justice system is being used as an instrument for visiting our society's systemic racism upon African Americans and other minorities? Perhaps if the criminal justice system was not quite so blatantly a system of racial injustice African Americans would have no motivation and inclination to practice jury nullification? Or do you think that they would still do so out of sheer perversity? Arguably, your fear that they might still do so out of pure spite and perversity in fact betrays the perversity of your own mentality.

 

No, actually my point is simply that the fear that whites have of reaping what they've sown doesn't morally justify the perpetuation of white hegemony.

 

Prove that the criminal justice system is being used as an instrument for visiting our society's systemic racism upon African Americans and other minorities.

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This is not what you said/implied. You said "payback". You were essentially saying (though not outright stating) that white people deserve whatever they get because they had been racist to black people.

 

Well, reaping what one has sown essentially means requital, i.e. receiving back the consequences of one's actions. And of course this is also essentially what "payback" means. In the case of what whites are experiencing in South Africa today the following quotation sums it up, “You have planted wickedness, you have reaped evil”. This is simply the point that I attempted to make, and it's hardly as controversial as you're trying to make it out to be.

As for proving that the criminal justice system is used to keep the victims of the unjust capitalist status quo, who are disproportionately people of color, under control, well, would you like me to produce classified e-mails in which police chiefs, district attorneys, judges, and wardens are given explicit marching orders to discriminate, or quotas of blacks and hispanics to incarcerate? Of course there's no such smoking gun, so to speak, and any evidence that falls short of being a smoking gun will predictably be dismissed by structural racism deniers such as yourself, therefore attempting to win you over to my point of view with evidence would be an exercise in futility. And, of course, your tack of asking me to produce evidence that you'll knee-jerk fashion dismiss is merely a kind of stonewalling, which is to say that you're quite clearly not interested in having a constructive argument.

 

There is no official murder statistics but approximately 3,158 – 3,811 South African farmers have been murdered in these farm attacks between 1994 and 2012, according to media reports. It's quite a stretch to claim that all of these farm attacks are racially motivated murders equivalent to the KKK's heinous crimes. 80% of farm owners are white in South Africa and 38.4% of victims of farm attacks are black and coloured farm owners, which shows that non-white farm owners are twice more likely to be attacked than white farm owners. Farm attacks may be motivated by greed rather than race.

 

They are the wrong religion and ethnicity, plus - horrifically - they might not go on welfare and possibly would teach their children to vote Republican and conservative - so hell would freeze over before they would ever be allowed into the USA.

 

The mentality expressed here would have me rolling on the floor with laughter, if it wasn't also quite dangerous.

 

There is also no good time to try and disenfranchise and violently oppress a majority that out numbers you 20 to 1.