Will Trump Sec. of Navy Change Stupid Ship Names?

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  1. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is almost certain to pick Rep. Randy Forbes to be his Secretary of the Navy, and he will hopefully rename a series of inappropriate service ships slated to be named after civil rights activists with little or no connection to the Navy.

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    https://news.usni.org/2016/11/09/randy-forbes-is-the-favorite-for-trumps-secretary-of-the-navy

    Current Obama Secretary of the Navy Mabus has made a list of insignificant, or disgusting historical figures that include the pedophile Harvey Milk.

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    I would suggest renaming the ships after true heroes that will give the Navy back its fighting spirit. No finer example than the USS Michael Murphy.

    "We used to have wooden ships and iron men, now we have iron ships and ....whatever."
     
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    The U.S. Naval Institute the other day mentioned that Rep. Randy Forbes would likely be the next Secretary of the Navy in the Trump administration.

    USNI also mentioned that Rep. Forbes was one of the over a hundred Congressmen who voted against repealing DADT.

    Looks like Trump is taking the job of being the CnC more seriously than Obama has. The U.S. Navy went almost five months without a Secretary of the Navy when Obama slithered into the White House. And when Obama found his yes man to be Sec. of the Navy he picked the worse Sec. of Navy in America's history, Ray Mabus.

    The only problem I see so far with Rep.Forbes, he want's to give the Navy's Little Crappy Ship a chance. But can we afford to build a tug boat to escort every LCS that puts to sea and brakes down and has to be towed back to port ?

    From Wikipedia so take it for what it's worth.
     
  3. waltky

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    I sure hope so...

    ... Boaty-boat...

    ... is kinda embarrassin'.
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  4. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the only ship that should be named after Harvey Milk should be one that takes pedophiles to the Clinton's favorite hangout, Orgy Island.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We should have saw it coming, naming U.S. Navy ships after pedophiles.

    First they legalize buggery in the Navy so what's next ? Naming ships after pedophiles.
     
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    Fun fact: never before Obama had Navy ships been named after anyone save Navy servicemen or people with extensive ties to the Navy.

    At least, that's what the OP wants you to think.

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    Should we rename the Thomas Jefferson too, or are we okay with naming ships after rapists, just not pedophiles?
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never before have there been such stupid and inappropriate names for Navy ships.

    Harvey Milk?

    Sorjorner Truth?

    Earl Warren? barf.

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    Even the two cargo ships already given names of Leftists by Mabus are bad enough: USNS Medgar Evers (T-AKE-13) and USNS Cesar Chavez (T-AKE-14).
     
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    That all depends, was the rape victim conscious or sober ?

    California's liberal loony Governor Brown says raping an unconscious or drunk girl is no longer a violent crime and the rapist should do little time in prison and be released quickly as possible back on to the streets.

    That's what Jerry Browns proposition 57 was all about and last Tuesday the low information voters in California passed it.

    It gets better, if you're a bad pistol shot and you miss the person your trying to cap, it's no longer a violent crime in California.

    The same low information voters who voted for prop 57 were the same loons who voted for crooked Hillary.

    The insanity of the political left.

    Deplorables in California are outnumbered 3 to 1 by loons.

    But I digress. Back to Obama's PC Navy.

    Twenty Six US Navy Ship Naming Controversies

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    USS Bloomer?

    USS Dorothea Dix?

    USS Susan B Anthony?

    The Navy has a LONG history of naming ships after civil rights leaders and reformers.
     
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    The USS Bloomer ?

    The USS Bloomer is named after women's underwear not a person. The Bloomer sank during the American Civil War and from that day on it's considered bad luck to name a war ship after womens undergarments.

    The USS Susan B Anthony was sunk during the Normandy D-Day landings and from that day on it was bad luck to name a U.S. naval ship after political activist.

    King Neptune gave the USS Dorothea Dix a complete pass in believing that the ship was a floating mental asylum.
     
  11. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not a long history.

    The Bloomer was built in 1857 by a Union Man in the South. Not named after a civil rights activist at all.

    The Dix was built in 1940. Dix isn't really a civil rights icon.

    The Susan Anthony was a renamed liner by the Navy in 1942.

    So the history isn't that long or substantial.

    If Obama and Mabus really wanted to promote gender equality in the US Navy or armed forces, they would do away with separate physical fitness test requirements for women and just use the current standards for men.

    You see, there should be equal pay for equal work. Ya know.
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), does your blatant misogyny know no bounds?

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    By that definition of what defines "a long history", Democrats don't have a long history of supporting government welfare programs.
     
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    Some what true, the Democrats create the welfare programs while the 55% of Americans who pay individual income taxes pay for the welfare programs.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You could at least support true gender equality in the Navy with equal PT test standards.

    Your misogyny knows no bounds.
     
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    Is the problem that you don't know what the word "support" means in this context?

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    I DO support unified PT standards.
     
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    I don't know about changing the ship's names, but I will say that Congressman Forbes would be an excellent choice for Sec of Navy.
     
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    Agree. Name them after MoH winners. They deserve the honor.
     
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    Please show your evidence otherwise.


    There is no U.S.S. Thomas Jefferson currently in service.
     
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    1. Numerous ships throughout US Navy history have been named after reformers or civil rights leaders. For women alone we have the USS Dorothea Dix, the USS Susan B Anthony, and the USS Elizabeth Stanton.

    2. There is one planned. There isn't a USS Harvey Milk in commission yet either, but you guys constantly (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about that.
     
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    What has been pointed out is that the Obama administration politicizing the U.S. military has politicized the naming of ships to further a leftist politically correct agenda.

    Not uncommon naming a ship after a woman in the merchant fleets of the world. All sailors refer to a ship as a woman. It's always "she" never "he."

    What the Obama administration did was adopted cultural-marxism and changing the definition of words to further a political agenda like naming of the USS Cesar Chavez. U.S. Navy T-AKE's are usually named after famous explorers or pioneers who settled the West. The Obama administration changed the definition of pioneers and in the name of political correctness now say that political activist are pioneers.

    Back when the U.S. Navy was in the war fighting business you use to be able to tell what kind a ship it was by the ships name. It was so simple before political correctness and social engineering of the U.S. military.

    aircraft carriers = famous battles

    battle ships = states

    cruisers = cities

    destroyers, destroyer escorts and frigates = navy and Marine Cotps war heroes

    submarines = fish

    tug boats = Indian tribes

    large troop ships = Army generals

    LST = counties

    garbage scows = liberals :smile:

    But since Jimmy Carter every time you get a liberal in the White House they start (*)(*)(*)(*)ing with long standing naval traditions in the name of PC diversity.

     
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    If Milk had helped create a nation and one of the greatest historical documents in the history of humanity then perhaps he would have EARNED having a ship named after him even if his bedroom hobby was poking little boys with his little wiener. One wonders why it's so hard for leftists to comprehend that meaningful accomplishments . . . matter?
     
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    Yes, we all know your idea of social engineering in the military began with day whites had to serve with blacks.

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    So just to establish a clear standard, being a rapist is okay if you are a good writer and orator?
     
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    They fixed it with the all volunteer military, whites only have to serve with blacks when they are REMF's.

    Something about combat arms scares blacks. I think the sounds of jet engines also scares blacks.

    But no mutinies in what, forty years and only a couple of fraggings. But there's still that little dirty secret on the "Rock" ( Okinawa ) that can't be fixed because it wouldn't be politically correct.
     
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    Depends on who's calling one a rapist. When leftists use the term they generally mean that someone right of center said, "Hello."
     
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    In this case it means "Forced a person he held against his will to be impregnated with his child."
     

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