The LGBT fraud has been exposed, and they’re definitely not happy about it

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by sec, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/deceit-and-lies-we-have-been-told-on-homosexuality

    HYPERLINK has full story

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    The other author is Dr. Paul McHugh, one of the leading psychiatrists in the world. He was psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore from 1975 to 2001. These scientists reviewed hundreds of peer reviewed studies on sexual orientation and gender identity from the biological, psychological and social sciences. Their conclusions were as follows:.........................

    the belief that sexual orientation is an innate, biologically fixed human property – that people are “born that way” – is not supported by scientific evidence.
    The belief that gender identity is an innate, fixed human property independent of biological sex – so that a person might be a ‘man trapped in a woman’s body’ or ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’ – is not supported by scientific evidence.
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    Only a minority of children who express gender-atypical thoughts or behaviour will continue to do so into adolescence or adulthood...............

    Non-heterosexual and transgender people have higher rates of mental health problems (anxiety, depression, suicide), as well as behavioral and social problems (substance abuse, intimate partner violence), than the general population. Discrimination alone does not account for the entire disparity............................................

    The second bombshell was exploded by a top researcher for the American Psychological Association (APA), lesbian activist, Dr. Lisa Diamond, co-author-in-chief of ‘the APA Handbook’ of sexuality and psychology and one of the APA’s most respected members. She admitted that sexual orientation was “fluid” and not unchangeable. By doing so, Dr. Diamond confirmed that the myth that “homosexuals can’t change” is now a dead-end theory

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    I am confident that this study will be widely covered by the liberal media as they are in the business of truth and facts. I do understand the rationale behind promoting the falsehood of "born that way" but for how long should we allow the charade to continue?
     
  2. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    So, this study didn't tell us anything that we don't ALREADY know.

    Got it!
     
  3. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

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    You've been touting the same bs study forever.

    Lmao. What a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing joke.
     
  4. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This topic only seems to be important to people who, for some reason or another, sit around and obsess about two guys having sex with one another.

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    Does this image upset you? If so, then why?
     
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    pocket aces Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Damn sec I had thought you had gotten over your strange obsession with gay people. Guess not.
     
  6. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Don't care. Doctors have higher suicide rates than average. Should we prevent people from becoming doctors? Pathetic post on your part.
     
  7. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you consider that normal?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't consider people dedicating their life to a book written by man that directly contradicts itself throughout normal, but I will fight for their right to believe it.

    No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, so homosexuality is a normal trait, bisexuality even more so.

    Again, why does that image upset you so?



    To the op: it is irrelevant if homosexuality is innate, environmental, or completely consciously chosen.
    Seek help, you have a strange obsession with gay people.
     
  9. sec

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    as I've said time and again, go and have as much gay-sex as you want.

    The issue is when politicians act as if it's akin to race which it is not. It's nothing more than a lifestyle choice.

    If a person doesn't want to service an event for gay-sex then that is fine just like folks who for religious reasons are against the heterosexual lifestyle can boycott events which celebrate those.
     
  10. Junkieturtle

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    Nobody is born religious and yet you're not allowed to discriminate against someone because of their religion. There is no universe where it's okay to protect that clearly optional "lifestyle choice" but must rage against folks that are attracted to the wrong gender for you to be comfortable, sometimes directly because of that clearly optional previously mentioned "lifestyle choice".

    Poor Sec, still thinking gay people are going to go back into the closet and become the 2nd class citizens he most desperately wants them to be again. Not even Trump could accomplish that.
     
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    They could if they put their minds to it! :mrgreen:

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    Well they are, sort of - it's in their DNA, so same thing, different gravy.

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    It doesn't upset me per se, but I find it unsettling.
     
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    Anyone else remember the good old days when sex was something you did in the bedroom with the lights off? Now you can't get away from it it's like polite dinner conversation now.
     
  13. sec

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    It is sad when the only argument you have is to try and lob personal attacks. There is no Constitutional right to the type of sex that one chooses but there is to religious freedom. Nobody is telling you to stop from having some gay-sex. The issue is that there is no PROOF that you were born wanting some gay-sex and thus, it's simply a lifestyle choice and should be treated as such. It's no different than if someone chooses to be a Vegan.
     
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    That’s not what the scientists you’re quoting claim. They’re saying it’s not fixed but they’re not saying it’s a free choice or a “lifestyle”.
     
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    Or if someone chooses to be religious. You can't point to the 1st amendment as a defense of the 1st amendment. Saying religion is constitutionally protected is not an argument for why religion should be constitutionally protected when it's just a "lifestyle choice", a more direct unambiguous one than whether or not homosexuality is innate.

    So if you're really against "lifestyle choices" being protected, religious protections should be on the chopping block too, aye? Or is it only the "lifestyle choices" that you don't agree with that should be banned?
     
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    There is no PROOF that homosexuals are not born that way either.
    However...
    • On one side of the issue there is the overwhelming medical consensus that homosexuality is not a choice.
    • One the other (your) side are a few people, driven more by religion than science, that continue to insist that homosexuality is a choice.


    Why is it that you insist on proof from the other side, but are OK with opinions that support your side?
     
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    this was a pretty good watch, science is showing us just how wrong we were about gender

    [video=youtube;tjeX71hTK1E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjeX71hTK1E[/video]
     
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    But isn't there a difference between "choosing" to do something that is explicitly protected in the Constitution and "choosing" to do something that isn't?

    It doesn't even matter if a person's sexual preference is natural or not. All sorts of behaviors are "natural," but they aren't all equally protected under the law. If sexual behaviors are to be treated as inalienable rights then the Constitution ought to be amended to protect them.

    My problem is that we've stretched the meaning of the Constitution to speak to things it never intended to address. If the Constitution needs to be amended then there's a process to do so, and if an amendment passes or fails then that tells us something about the will of the people.
     
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    Lifestyle choices are protected by the constitution
     
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    Actually the right to be vegan is also constitutionally protected. Imagine if a state said vegans could not marry. Lol
     
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    ok

    The science is still out on that one

    Prove it, I've asked for citations hundreds of times and am generally met with silence. Do animals also make this lifestyle choice? I bet a giraffe gay pride event would be awkward.

    When a protected class of people begin calling for open discrimination against another class a people then I would argue they are no longer in need of protective status.

    When chosen religion is removed I will have no problem with what you suggest, but when gay people are forced to serve religious people but the opposite is not true it is an injustice.
     
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    The freedom of religion as mentioned in the constitution does not grant public accommodation of that belief - yet refusing service on the basis of religion is illegal. If you want open discrimination, fine, allow it for everyone. But don't sit in your tower thinking you should be able to openly discriminate against others while refusing them the same right.
     
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    Perhaps we need more studies to see if we can find a cure for homosexuality.
     
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    Life shi-te news, not the best place to start really, given their record of lying and misrepresentation.

    a rebuttal to the first "study" - http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warren...tation-and-gender-identity-thats-not-a-study/
     
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    Lawrence v texas
     

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