You read that right, Obama's former Islamist home of Indonesia when growing up violated WW ll war graves ! My comment is the same comment I left on the Maritime-Executive website that reported the disgusting story. apacherat 10 minutes ago Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by Maritime Executive. This is disgusting. What is called for is a military punitive action against Indonesia. If it were American naval warships sitting on the bottom of the sea, put a few gunboats offshore, land some U.S. Marines and bluejackets and kick some butts, break some things, maybe even kill a few people and then you leave, leaving a message, (*)(*)(*)(*) with America again we'll be back. They use to call it "Crush and Bolt." It was very effective back in the day.
I came in here purely to see how this was going to be associated with the American left and was not disappointed. Obama's former home country that he lived in as a child. Genius.
Yep. And in this case it would be terrorism against a country and its innocent people for the actions of criminals.
LOLOL.. Did you actually write that? Obama left Indonesia when he was 9 years old. How childish are Americans?
Are you referring to liberal snowflakes as being childish ? You may be right. But Obama returned to his former homeland where he was raised to be a Muslim back in 1981 so they say. If you remember the MSM gave Obama a complete pass on his passport unknowns. Obama's U.S. passport should have had an Indonesia visa stamp and when Obama left Indonesia he traveled to Pakistan for what ever reasons and there should also be a Pakistan visa stamp but there is none. Did Obama travel using an Indonesian passport ? Obama did attend a Muslim school in Indonesia that required Indonesian citizenship. Did Obama's stepfather pass on Indonesian citizenship to his stepson Barack ? We can only know the unknown by looking at Obama's sealed Occidental College transcripts that would show if Barack registered at Occidental as a foreign student and if he did apply for a foreign student loan ? It's no secret that Barack was a U.S. citizen, a Kenyan citizen and a British subject by birth.(Natural Law, "Son follows the condition of his father." ) But Barack might have held four citizenship's, Indonesian citizenship. So many unknowns about Barack Obama's shady past.
Muslims have a problem with America not bolting after being crushed. It's a liberal thing, crush and then go into the nation building business.
If China sent its military to America and murdered your family for the actions of criminals that nothing to do with you and who acted without any authorization from the American government, would you meekly submit to their "crush and bolt" or would you do everything in your power to get vengeance?
All wars could be called terrorism since it causes terror. "Crush and bolt" is in reference to punitive action wars. Punishing a sovereign state or rouge people who (*)(*)(*)(*)ed with America or American citizens. America has fought over 200 armed conflicts in it's history, most were punitive action wars of "crush and bolt." From 1800 to 1934 U.S. Marines and Navy blue jackets made 180 armed landings on foreign shores. Most of these were punitive actions to punish sovereign states for (*)(*)(*)(*)ing with American citizens. The first punitive action war that America waged was in 1800, the Barbary Pirates Wars. FYI: It was during the Barbary Pirate wars was when U.S. Marines coined the phrase "gook" and there were no Orientals in North Africa back in the day that the PC word police would like you to believe. There are five different kinds of wars, "punitive," "pacification" (nation building) "profiteering," "protective" and when a nation is attacked and fighting for survival. I only approve of punitive and wars of survival. FYI: Before the War Powers Act of 1973 the President had to get approval from Congress to use the U.S. Army outside of the CONUS but not the U.S. Navy and the Marine Corps is a branch of the U.S. Navy.
Like when Obama used UAV's (drones) over sovereign territory targeting low level Jihadist fighters and more innocent bystanders were being killed than the enemy that the Obama administration changed the definition who's a combatant, if you're close enough to be killed or wounded by a Hellfire missile, you are a combatant and a legal target. The Obama administration was warned that Obama was writing the rule book on how UAV's can be used and how America used UAV's killing people makes it legal for every other country to do the same including the Chi-Coms. That's why you will never see me using public transportation. The Chi-Coms may want to take out a wanted Chinese citizen who's living in Alhambra, Ca. in the San Gabriel Valley and I don't want to be sitting next to the guy at a bus stop being targeted by a Chi-Com armed UAV. Obama says it's legal for the Chi-Coms to use armed UAV's over the CONUS. Obama wrote the rules.
You dodged the question while indirectly answering it. Our drone strategy is causing terrorist blowback. BTW provide evidence for your lie that Obama approved of armed Chinese UAVs over US territory.
If Obama can use armed UAV's over sovereign territory, so can anyone else. Until the Hague and the rules of war are amended, there are no laws or rules how UAV's can be used. So until the rules are written, Obama's rules will be used. I think it's very likely that using armed UAV's will become a war crime in the future.
If you want to play with words. It's a fuzzy area, especially in the modern era but there are some distinctions. It doesn't really matter since what you excitedly fantasised about would be unacceptable in either case. So your position is this that if there were US WW2 wrecks in foreign waters and those wrecks disappeared, you'd propose an immediate declaration of war against the nation whose waters that happened to occur in and an aggressive assault targeting civilians and private property? Imagine the situation was reversed and these were foreign wrecks in US waters? You'd presumably be in complete support of a foreign military taking it out on your home town?
Oh what a mess you have made of the facts... There was NO travel ban re: Pakistan in 1981.. If you go to the US state Dept website on TRAVEL ALERTS.. it goes back for years... In 1981 was there were delays in visas .. Indonesian law forbids dual citizenship.. Obama's birth was NEVER registered with any British Consulate in Kenya or Hawaii. He never attended a Muslim school in Indonesia. He attended a Catholic elementary school and then a co-ed international school founded by the Dutch.
No declaration of war needed for punitive action. America has waged over 200 wars, most were small wars lasting only a few days or a few weeks. I'll point out again, before the liberals "War Powers Act" of 1973 the President only needed Congress approval to commit the U.S. Army into combat outside the CONUS but not the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps. No where in the Constitution is the U.S. Navy mentioned when it comes to waging war. Read the "Patton Papers" George S. Patton already points out during the late 1890's that the U.S. Marine Corps was America's elite combat force because of all of the little wars they have fought over the past 100 years. Most Americans hear "Korean War" and not knowing American history can only think of the last Korean War. (1950-1953) Unaware of America's first Korean War of 1871. What about the Falklands War ? Not the British Falklands war of 1982 but America's Falklands war of 1831. My favorite little war took place in the South Pacific in 1813 against the Polynesians in the Marques Islands. It wold be the first time a Marine officer would command a warship. America gave up it's claim on the Polynesian Islands and the French were quick to claim the Polynesian Islands.
I never mentioned any thing about travel bans. But would like to know what passport Obama used back then, don't you ?
Obama has had a US passport since he was about 6 years old.. He couldn't be an Indonesian citizen because Indonesia didn't allow dual citizenship.. and NO American child under the age of 21 can renounce his US citizenship.
That would mean if Obama's stepfather passed on his Indonesian citizenship to "Barry Soetoro" aka Barack Hussein Obama so Barry could attend a Muslim indoctrination school that requires Indonesian citizenship and Indonesia doesn't recognize dual citizenship, did Barry Soertoro lose his Americanand British subject status ??? I don't think so, English Common Law protects Barry's citizenship being a British subject and since the U.S. Constitution is based upon "Natural Law" and the 14th Amendment comes from Vattels, (Son follow the condition of his father) Barry holds numerous citizenship's under the Law of Nations. It's like Mexican anchor babies in America, Mexico holds jurisdiction over all anchor babies who's parents were Mexican nationals at the time of the birth of their little anchor babies and are considered to be Mexican citizens who must hold loyalty to Mexico. If you don't like it, take it up with the Mexican government and the Mexican Constitution. And they will hold up a copy of Emer de Vattel, "The Law of Nations, Or, Principles of the Law of Nature." That's what America's first Supreme Court Chief Justice, John Jay use to do.
You do understand that the countries we operate armed UAV's over occurs with the consent of their government, right?
If the Syrian government didn't want our drones there, they have SAM's and Fighter aircraft. UAV's are incredibly easy to shoot down.
