Blatant discrimination:’ Christian B&B owner fined $80K for refusing gay ‘wedding’ co

Blatant discrimination:’ Christian B&B owner fined $80K for refusing gay ‘wedding’ continues fight

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PAXTON, Illinois, December 8, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) — The Illinois Human Rights Commission has ordered a Christian businessman to pay two homosexuals $30,000 because he declined to host their gay "wedding."

A panel of three commission members refused to hear an appeal from TimberCreek Bed and Breakfast owner Jim Walder..............

In addition to the $30,000 that Walder was ordered to pay for causing emotional distress, he is responsible for more than $50,000 in attorney fees.

Two of the three commission members on the panel were publicly involved in gay activism and/or were openly homosexual, according to Walder.

"The fix was in from the get-go," Walder said........................

"We will never host same-sex civil unions," Walder said. "We believe homosexuality is wrong and unnatural, based on what the Bible says about it. If that is discrimination, I guess we unfortunately discriminate."

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Yet another case where a Christian is being punished for not participating in a specific event, the celebration of the gay-sex lifestyle.

This over-reach by the govt has to stop. What is also troubling is when 66% of the "review panel" are themselves involved in the gay lifestyle get to make the decision. I hope this case also goes to the SCOTUS and not only make the homsoexuals repay the $30k but interest as well, be charged for harrassment and anyone involved in punishing this Christian must also be held accountable. Nobody is refusing a person, they are refusing a specific activity.

 

SCOTUS has already ruled on this. A business is bound by the rules of the State and local regulations to conduct business. A wedding is a wedding, there is no distinction between gay and hetero weddings in the eyes of the Court.

 

According to the Bible, wearing blended fabrics is also wrong and unnatural. I wonder if they check the material of wedding gowns before they allow a marriage to occur?

 

Oh Please! Yeah... you do. Stop paying the idiot-card, pretending like you didn't know the meaning of discrimination.

This angle on conflict of interest only makes me wonder about the details of the life of the third member. Was he or she a Christian? I so, wouldn't also imply a conflict of interest using this angle?

 

I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what the SCOTUS says.

In what universe do you think progressive activists in a robe can be impartial?

This is called FASCISM.....

Just because this was allowed doesn't mean its legal or even RIGHT.

FDR threw US Citizens in camps..... Of course if this was 1943 you would be defending that too wouldn't you?

 

This is discrimination alright - it's discrimination against Christians..

But hey, discriminating against Christians is not only tolerated by progressives it's encouraged.

 

and once a new justice is on the bench, and the environment reverts back to the Constitution, the suspension of rights of Christians on behalf of those engaged in gay-sex will cease.

 

I would love to know why these progressives don't pull this crap with Muslims..

Oh yea. Of course we know why that is.

 

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No sympathy. His civil disobedience just cost him 80 big ones. Just think of all the poor children that could have fed.

 

Yea, it's called progressives being fascist.

It doesn't matter - good people will come in and save him and his business from the fascist state.

 

And the SCOTUS ruled on segregation in Plessy v. Ferguson. Let's not pretend the Court is infallible.

Does the government fine conscientious objectors $80,000 for refusing to serve the American people, Daniel?

It does not.

How are we to explain and accept this inconsistency - this unequal treatment?

Why does the government accommodate the principle of conscientious objection in some cases but not all?

 

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It's actually called "Common Sense". The "good people" I know in business, (mainly Christians) don't have bizarre ideological hang-ups that interfere with making a profit. So long as your credit is good and your cash is green, what you believe in is your own business.

 

So what....

Since when are your values the standard?

"Common sense" is pretty objective no?

When Hillary talks about banning guns she uses language like "common sense"....

 

Near Paxton there are 333 places where a couple can have a wedding hosted. It's amazing how gays frequently find the one that doesn't perform what they want and make a big deal about it rather than move to another venue. And once a gay couple finds out the establishment is not gay friendly, why would they even consider having their wedding there? Is someone going to try to tell me these gays wanted to support an anti gay establishment? And they always seem to find a place operated by Christians, never Muslims.

https://www.theknot.com/marketplace/wedding-reception-venues-paxton-il

 

With REPUBLICAN Justice Anthony Kennedy writing the majority decision.





Funny thing is, right wingers continue to say religion in USA is under attack but where the hell were they when the churches were persecuted during Vietnam???

 

Its not going to happen.. Even conservatives support civil rights.

 

Which was overturned in Brown v. Board of Education (1954).

 

Do we still have a military draft?

 

Destroy people's lives because they don't agree with you all while trampling on their religious freedoms.

Amazing thing isn't it?

This is why America rose up on the 8th.

We're tired of this plague of radical liberalism being used to selectively punish people that don't submit control of their lives to the whims of special interests.

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I'm not a Christian but I have a suggestion for those Christians own business and don't want to be persecuted for upholding their rights to practice how they choose.

Just lie - for the time being.

If you don't want to conduct business that conflicts with your religion just lie, make up some excuse, tell people you're booked up or cant meet their deadline, anything to get them out the door.

And if there is any push-back just say you're Muslim and, who knows, some radical tyrannical fascist liberal council on "rights" might just be awarding you $30 grand.

Republicans control the entire government and soon the entire SCOTUS so we'll get things back on track but for now: just lie and don't give these radical hate mongers any ammo to be used against you.

 

Neah. They need to shove this equal rights down everybody throat.
Otherwise we are going back to the Jim Crow theme of "fair" but " equal".

We can't have that.

 

It's amazing how many people have a problem with this. A private business is not a religious entity. It doesn't have beliefs and it won't burn in hell. A business is bound by law to not discriminate. If individual employees or owners of a business can't bring themselves to treat everyone equally, as proscribed by law, then they need to find employees who can. Or stop offering services that they find to be so objectionable when utilized by whatever type of person they hate at the moment.

 

Boo (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hoo. Christians need to get over it. They give up their rights to "discriminate" the second they open a business and are beholden to state licensure laws.

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You're trying to compare laws that address the conduct of individuals versus laws that address the conduct of businesses. It's not an inconsistency, you're just confused.

 

Sorry that bigots are finding it harder to hide behind religion and if they will not provide services to all citizens then they can find another manner to earn a living in my opinion.

 

You would think a pro gay, business oriented person would open up a bed and breakfast that caters the gays. That would be how the free market would handle this. The government should not be involved in who a business engages into a private contract with.

That's right, if they don't want to serve white people, Christians, gays, arabs, Hispanics, blacks, women, men, kids, pisces, capracones, blue eyed people, brown eyed people, fat folks, thin folks, cripples, veterans, dog lovers, cat lovers, city dwellers, rednecks, IT IS NONE OF THE GOVERNMENTS BUSINESS.

Let the market take care of it. If these guys B&B suffers from folks who wont go there because they don't serve the gays, then it will suffer. No need for a fine.