How hard is teaching.

The results aren't there. We know the kids are different but what about the actual teachers? Do they have what it takes? Are they trained properly?

 

Are you qualified to judge?

What are your qualifications?

 

I'm registered on a forum that lets me ask questions. Lol.

 

Serious answers please.

 

Some children will not learn period.

 

Frankly, it doesn't take much to be a public school teacher. I've known quite a few and none of them are intellectual giants. But they don't have to be as they are teaching children and young people who don't know anything.

The lackluster results I blame on the educational establishment which has been in a funk since school integration. The Black kids can't keep up with the White kids so educators have been tearing their hair out trying to come up with a system that equalizes results of the different races. For fifty years they have succeeded only in bolloxing up the curriculum for everyone.

 

Do you mean they won't put in the effort? Or incapable?

 

Not sure how to take your post. One thing is clear, since teachers are working with kids you feel they don't have to be experts? And I don't think all teachers are that smart as well.

 

Yes to the former, and infrequently as to the latter, though I am sure that happens as well.

 

Good teachers are uncommon. It takes talent and skill and dedication to inspire kids to inquire and be curious and learn. My wife taught in a large big city school system (Portland) and I saw plenty of examples of different skill levels whenever I visited and when she told her daily stories. We have seen specials on TV that illustrate the talent of a really good teacher (if "we" have any interest in watching such shows).

Want good results in education? Pay teachers a high enough salary to attract the best. Hire them and weed through all to weed out the bad ones. They are there!

Yes teachers' unions need some changes as well. But you will only get the worst teachers who can't get a job anywhere else by offering low pay.

 

Teachers I think are doing fine for the most part.

Its at home parents are failing.

Thats not to say teachers are perfect. Mine certainly werent. But if I paid attention, I learned.

 

Currently we educate children like we build automobiles: assembly line. There is no good reason for there to be an emphasis on making sure everyone knows the same thing at the same age. Everyone is different. This misguided emphasis is a product of a public school system with centralized regulation that ensures all systems suck equally and there is no ability to try divergent systems that may be more successful. Competition with this failing model is the only solution.

 

Is it just the pay?

 

A teacher is simply an authority figure on usually 1 topic. Math, history,economics, etc.

But I think it does take quite a bit to be a teacher...more so than most occupations thats for sure.

 

How did I know this was going to get racial real quick?

 

Thanks for participating. This is page 2. Maybe you can be funny on page 7 next time.

 

Wrong. Great teachers are uncommon. Like most professions there are about 10% who are really good and 10% who are really bad and 80% who are "good".

You can't force kids to learn...especially when parents don't do their part.



And here comes the attack on unions.

 

I suppose it depends on the audience.

Teachers where I live seem to love what they do.

 

Because you know the truth although you do not allow yourself to think it.

I feel sorry for people who have to live with such cognitive dissonance.

 

Public schools were designed to prepare students to work on an assembly line.

 

So you feel the teachers aren't really into it?

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And they haven't changed that formula yet?

 

Certainly not. You don't need a PhD in History to teach American History. Or do you mean experts in teaching children?

I don't know there is much expertise to be had. The field is filled with all sorts of faddish ideas garbled by "educationese" which sounds grand but doesn't mean very much.

The teacher training curriculum is filled with so much nonsense and political correctness we would probably do better hiring the school bus drivers to teach the kids rather than the certificate holders from a teacher training institution.

 

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

I'm suggesting that being a teacher depends a lot on how receptive the students are to actually learning something, and how well the administration supports them.

 

Not that I've seem. Students are trained to respond to bells and get the same subject matter that I remember in HS. There are private schools that do things very differently, but they are expensive and exclusive.

 

No.

Public schools were designed to ensure the civil society would remain literate so that they could participate in political discourse. Of course like every public system it devours more and more resources as it commands more and more authority. Our current system is a bizarro superman version of the original design.