No Veto: UN Security Council Adopts Anti-settlement Resolution; U.S. Abstains PART 2

No Veto: UN Security Council Adopts Anti-settlement Resolution; U.S. Abstains

As Israel's population comprises 25% Palestinian Arab Israelis any ' Jewish state ' is impossible under a democracy. So would the Israelis abandon democracy in exchange for theocratic fascism ?

Which Arab nations would back such unacceptable abandonment of Arabs ? There are over five million Palestinians in the refugee diaspora- all with the legal right to return to their homeland inside the current Israeli state. Putting these numbers together with the existing Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza they vastly outnumber all of the Jews in what is currently Israel and the illegal squats. It would be a mistake of gargantuan proportions to think that the facilitation of any Jewish state would be a simple matter of removing one quarter of Israel's population.

It's high time that respectable Arab states disassociated themselves from the puppets and got solidly behind the Palestinians in order to consolidate a viable and contiguous state of Palestine on the pre-1967 borders - as supported by 138 United Nations members to just 9 against.

 

It is. The decision still has to be made by the Palestinians if they want any peace. I am confused about this Kerry thing. It does not look like a good deal for the Palestinians to me but it seems Israel is terrified of it.

 

The White house too, apparently. A ' spokesperson ' stated that any UN Resolution based upon Kerry's speech would be vetoed. False news ?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-obama-will-veto-any-other-un-resolution-critical-of-israel/

 

It always ends with the Paleostinians demanding that Israel give back everything they gained in wars after the Arab armies attacked them in the past.


I say give Trump 2 years into his term he has the whole thing solved.

 

According to this
http://www.piotrgorka.com/us-will-v...te-at-un-key-obama-aide-tells-haaretz-haaretz
it is what Kerry believed the people of Israel and Palestine would have agreed to. Others suggest it is pro Israel, good for Israel, strongly Ziionist and if he had suggested it 3 years ago it would have been accepted - (perhaps by Israel)

But we can see that in the last three years Israel has gone by leaps and bounds to the right and to the extremes. They are expecting to annex area C soon - which is why they have been demolishing Palestinian homes there for several years and making them leave - one of the reasons the US abstained at the UN vote.

Now we have Trump coming in supporting employing those I hear who are to the right of Netanyahu and of course backed by the white Nationalists who currently have an affinity for Israel and her ethnic nationalism. They believe in making the make believe they speak of - that is that the West Bank is Israel a reality. Not sure what the reasons for the agreement from the Arab states was but they would in any case be aware that Israel would not accept Kerry's pro Israel Zionist proposal - at the same time the Palestinians learnt a long time ago that the Arab States, not necessary their people, but the States were not really any friend of theirs.

Meanwhile May is ticking Kerry off for being honest about Israel for not presenting the other side also

- on false news

https://www.article19.org/pages/en/false-news.html remind you of a particular repressive state?

Obama seems to be trying to put a few obstacles before Trump and the white nationalists. I believe he has destroyed a list of Muslims they were (wrongly) keeping their eyes on who people were concerned would be the first rounded up by Trump. The vote the Americans abstained on is a good one and it could itself provide continuous friction to Israel but this proposal, so the article says, was never intended to be brought to the UN for approval - such an agreement would be difficult in that way. It was rather to show what he believed the people of both Israel and Palestine would accept. I do not know how the Palestinians could accept Israel as a Jewish State. If you remember at the last 'talks' Israel was talking about evicting her Arab citizens to the Palestinian State. Maybe they might accept that as the lesser evil. What it does show is that Israel will not accept the strongest pro her suggestions made as she is waiting with Trump to take over the rest of the Palestinian State. Not surprisingly I have seen several threads around asking if the US should be gritting up for a lot more terrorism in retaliation for what it intends on doing to the civilians of Palestine.

http://www.piotrgorka.com/us-will-v...te-at-un-key-obama-aide-tells-haaretz-haaretz

 

alexa;

The US should be ' gritting up ' for action from the 138 world states that voted for a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 borders in 2012 at the UN. When you're on the wrong side of history it hits you in the coffers. Trump must know that. Backing fascist Israel is betting on a clothes horse.

 

Israel needs to change course soon or they will destroy themselves.

 

He might if he can convince the Israelis not to turn an Israeli state into a theocracy. (There are already too many in the ME).

[Has the time for a two state solution passed? Those settlers (the fundamentalists on the Israeli side of the scenario) won't go quietly; the Israeli leadership must be aware of Rabin's fate, and civil war is almost a certainty].

Certainly Trump will achieve the status of Solomon if he can solve it!

 

Mr Kerri has to think about the day after he leaves office. How he is going to get finance for the rest of his life.
See Karter, Indic and many others who found good living in attacking Israel.
See who finance their funds and the 'think tanks', and then read carefully what they say.

 

Israel have been told that for the last 70 years, thank you.
Isralis can take care of themselves.
As the saying goes: I can take care of my enemeis, god help me with my friends.

 

If as you say:

why have they required $ Trillions in U.S. Aid[1] & the U.S. to fight their Wars [2]

Additionally, without German Aid both before WW2[3], [4], [5] and after WW 2, [6],[7]your Zionist Colony would not exist.
In reality, it was the Germans who "...made the desert bloom" while Zionist Terrorist Gangs were free to go massacring Palestine's native Christians, & Muslims.








[1] “The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel – $3(*)Trillion” (as of 2002)
https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-real-cost-of-us-support-for-israel-3-trillion/
EXCERPT “ While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg.

There are many billions of dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S. support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3 trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars.

“The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion” is a summary of economic research done by Thomas R. Stauffer.

Stauffer is a Washington, D.C.-based engineer and economist who writes and teaches about the economics of energy and the Middle East.

Stauffer has taught at Harvard University and Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service.
” CONTINUED


[2] “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03


[3] “The incredible “Haavara Agreement” between Nazis and Zionists“
http://unacuba.org/wordpress/the-incredible-haavara-agreement-between-nazis-and-zionists/
EXCERPT "Haavara was intended to promote both the emigration of German Jews and the export of German products to Palestine."CONTINUED


[4] “The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration”
http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/07/the-zionist-nazi-collaboration/

EXCERPTS “The Zionists......rather than opposing anti-Semitism in the first half of the 20th century, the Zionists found common cause with Hitler, Eichmann, and the Nazis and used anti-Semitism and Nazism as a means of achieving their end which was the establishment of a Jewish state.
The Zionists’ use of Nazism involved, among other things, the blocking of avenues of escape to other countries of Europe’s Jews and diverting them to Palestine.....
The rise of Nazism and Hitler to power was never, or almost never, opposed by the Zionists prior to the establishment of Israel."CONTINUED



[5] “Nazis SS Funded Nascent Israeli Army”
http://www.henrymakow.com/israeli_haganah.html


[6] West Germany's Holocaust Payoff to Israel and World Jewry”
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p243_Weber.html

EXCERPT .......every train in Israel is German, the ships are German, as well as the electricity,
It is difficult to exaggerate the impact of the program: the five power plants built and installed by West Germany between 1953 and 1956 quadrupled Israel's electric-power-generating capacity.

West Germans laid 280 kilometers of giant pipelines (2.25 and 2.5 meters in diameter) for the irrigation of the Negev (which certainly helped to "make the desert bloom"). The Zionist state acquired 65 German- built ships, including four passenger vessels
. . . . . . . . .
“ That the goods Israel received from Germany were a decisive economic factor in its development is beyond doubt. I do not know what economic dangers might have threatened Israel at critical moments if it had not been for German supplies. Railways and telephones, dock installations and irrigation plants, whole areas of industry and agriculture, would not be where they are today without the reparations from Germany. And hundreds of thousands of Jewish victims of Nazism have received considerable sums under the law of restitution. “CONTINUED
Nahum Goldmann, Autobiography, p. 276.



[7] “How Israel Tried to Conceal Its Biggest Arms Deal With Germany”
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.576629

EXCERPTS” The topic was “scientific and military cooperation between Israel and Germany.”
Classified as “top secret,” the cable reported that a decision had been made to prevent the matter from being reported in the Israeli media

The documents also reveal how dependent both Israel’s security and its economy were on Germany."CONTINUED

 

Yes- but the USA has manufactured fascist Israel. Things would never have gotten so bad without the blanket veto on criticism of Israel's ethnic cleansing. Fascist Israel has become America's baby- and it's America's problem- even though the dumb Brit imperialists allowed Palestine to be invaded.

 

Now there's a choice paranoid expression for the new year.

 

Grau;

Well , the US is the richest country in the world- apart from being 20 trillion dollars in debt.





Of course, Israelis deserve the money. They're...er.....Jewish. Well, 75% of them are anyway.

 

But why just an abstention? Why not back up the motion? Israel already reacts as if that's what was done, anyway. Worse - Bibi actually accuse the USA of having built it.

Why is the US having its hands tied like this about everything Israel? I think there are more Cherokees than Jews in the US. So why the (counter-productive) lock?

 

Pat Buchanan takes on fellow Republicans as the Likunik tail continues to wag the dog:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/12/patrick-j-buchanan/israel-first-america-first/

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Pat Buchanan takes on fellow Republicans as the Likunik tail continues to wag the dog:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/12/patrick-j-buchanan/israel-first-america-first/

 

It's unhealthy. Netanyahu gives a paranoid , anti-law address to Congress and it responds with twenty standing ovations to a visiting fascist. Billions of dollars in annual gifts. Blanket political protection at the United Nations, no matter what heinous crimes Israelis commit , Well, until now. The US has been so far up Zionism's ass in the past that a mere abstention in support of international law draws the strength of criticism you'd expect if Obama threw Bibi off the White House balcony.
It has to be the electoral system. Israel, and its criminal supporters, are buying American politicians. There's no other explanation for the cheering and stomping in support of the sort of crimes that America joined WW2 to eliminate. Otherwise it's just plain nuts. Or Americans have chosen to elect fascists themselves.

 

International law demands that Israel remove herself and her 'settlers' from the Occupied Territories. Israel is, and has been for decades, in violation of international law in this regard-irrespective of what stupid Biblical imperative for land theft they might whine on about.

 

Israel can take care of itself? Good, so you won't be needing the $4 billion annual handout then, will you?

 

America is rapidly becoming a far-right entity and a police state. Full on fascism is surely not far behind, despite pretentions to 'democracy'.

 

The entire occident is.

Fascism shall be passed on the people as "security" and self-protection.

Still, I must have missed the part where the US became an Israeli protectorate, and such as lost its independance in the UN or wherever ME matters are discussed.

 

Yes, and it looks like the fascist Holocaust denier, Marine Le Pen, is going to be France's next leader. Fascism is on the rise again in Europe. 'We live in interesting times'.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rench-presidential-lead-sarkozy-a7428126.html

 

United Nations lol! United Dictators and Moochers would be a better name. Still can't understand why they hate Jews so much.

 

The British and French hate the Jews?

Hardly. And we were behind the resolution. What do you think of that?

 

Suggesting all Jews are responsible for the actions of Israel is still considered a key sign of anti-Semitism. The UN does not do this. You it would appear do. Jews have always been the key opposition to Zionism.