Conservatives: What did Hitler get wrong?

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conservatives won't admit this, but a lot of their ideas are very similar to those held by Adolf Hilter. Most prominently, many of them, including certain members of this forum, think that whites are superior to non-whites. That's not even controversial. Some of you openly say that data proves whites are superior. I'm sure there are republicans who don't believe that, but I would say they're probably a minority on this forum.

    Despite the fact that many conservatives think whites are superior, as did Hitler, nearly all conservatives resent being compared to Hitler. My question is what did Hitler do that's so different from your beliefs?

    Note that conservatives are constantly comparing liberals/socialism to communist Russia, Cuba or Venezuela. So why can't we compare conservatives to Nazi Germany? The parallels can't be denied.
     
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    The only 'parallel' you made between Hitler and Conservatives is a gross red herring <Off-topic> Namely, the so-called parallel that Hitler believed in German Supremacy, while Conservatives 'supposedly' believe in 'White Supremacy'. But you can't pinpoint one thing in the official GOP platform that states this.

    You can't even find a single politician, not even Trump himself who asserted this at all, really post George Wallace. Now you can "argue" that they're "hiding it", but I don't care to tickle your fantasies. <Off-topic>
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you denying that there is a belief among conservatives on this forum that whites are superior to non-whites? I mean, I want to start naming posters who openly and proudly admit this, but I don't know if that's against the rules.
     
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    If he isn't, I am. How stupid do you think we are? I'll put it to you in this way. I am so Conservative I make McGovern look like a New Dealer and I will not suffer racist fools, no matter who they are nor their ethnic background because you get these losers from all stripes, and yes, especially from all political backgrounds. So before you continue this broadbrush <Off-topic>, try looking at your own bunch of Bolsheviks and spot the racists there.
     
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    its funny how liberals bash the others every day from rasist to hitler when it apears to me that they are the ones thinking on a consistant basis in terms of races in general and your going so far that you really got nothing else to say anymore and nothing else to defend yourself with
    while hitler was against the jews he started in the exact same way that you guys are doing now to white people hence you got alot more in common with nazi ideology and hitler then the other way arround

    while you seem to try to uplift your holy minorities and he wanted a pure single race(majority) your using the exact same methods(propaganda and demonizing the other side) he did before he got in power
    hence i reckon its a good thing the liberals are not in power because if you had the change many of you wouldn't hesitate to kill the while majority like some racist liberal professors/teachers clearly stated already since the election not to forget what BLM has done is clearly far more racist then the general concervative

    what might be true however is that alot of normal and concervatives people think black people are idiots because they do stuppid (*)(*)(*)(*) after they see groups like BLM do those things(no offense meaned just a example)
    that doesnt make them racist it makes that group the one that needs to get his act together

    calling people racist on a daily basis for every single thing you disagree with makes the entire concept pretty hollow and just shows how stuppid and smallminded liberals really are

    personally i feel
    that in your/liberal mind
    if my neigbor is black and he does some stuppid (*)(*)(*)(*), i'm a racist if i dont like him
    if my neigbor is black and i do some stuppid (*)(*)(*)(*) so he doesnt like me, i would be the racist
    and if my neigbor is white you wouldnt care even if he blew up his house with mine to

    while i wouldnt like my neigbor because hes a retard doing stuppid (*)(*)(*)(*) not because hes black of white and it may affect me badly if he keeps doing it
     
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    they would probably claim the Jews had WMD if they were him
     
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    So now the GOP is supposed to control random voters/posters? This is the mindset that had them returning donations from a fringe conservative group because Dylan Roof happened to read their literature. And it's a misguided mindset. If we believe in a country where freedom of speech is a virtue, then equally no one can be persecuted for that speech(unless it was criminally intended), otherwise it's not a free country.
     
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    Case in point. Do these Communist Bolsheviks really think that in order for one not to be racist, they have to be lunatic Leftists also?
     
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    I remember at least 10 threads that had that as the topic...just in the last 6 months
     
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    in the liberal mindset it would be claimed that the whites having WMD so the jews use it as a excuse to nuke them and save themself from white opression
     
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    I directed my question at conservatives on this forum, not the GOP in general. I strongly suspect that most people in the GOP think whites are superior to non-whites, but I don't know that for a fact. However, it is blatantly obvious that most conservatives on this forum believe whites are superior to non-whites. So I have asked the conservatives on this forum to reconcile that with their hatred of Hitler, a man with whom they seem to sympathize.
     
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    It wasn't conservatives who coined the phrase 'white privilege.' If liberals think white privilege exists then they're the ones who think whites are superior.
     
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    Being a conservative has nothing to do with thinking one is better than non whites. This isn't a conservative thing. No more is it a liberal thing that they think they are above conservatives in some fashion or the other. This is an issue of morality and decency, which one finds on both sides.

    Comparing cons to hitler is an exercise in ignorance not to mention a basic lack of decency. And I speak as a FDR liberal, not a conservative. You guys are corrupting and bastardizing liberalism. Turning it into something it never was.
     
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    Well, you're wrong. I can name many posters who have stated that evidence shows that whites are superior to non-whites. Again, not sure I'm allowed to name names. But one of them starts with a B and ends with "ier". This poster has actually stated that blacks have a "warrior" gene that makes them prone to rape and violence. And he's not alone (though he's probably the most humorous example).

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    Only if you're dimwitted and easily conflate "more privileged" with "superior".
     
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    Heh, yeah, Donald Trump is literally Hitler. You guys are a bunch of geniuses.
     
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    Belief in nationalism and white superiority seems to be far more common among conservatives than liberals. Conservatives point to the crime rate among blacks and conclude blacks are more likely to be violent. So it's only fair that we point to incidences of "white superiority" thinking among conservatives and conclude that conservatives are more likely to be racist. I don't exactly agree with the logic in either case, but they deserve a taste of their own medicine.
     
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    Hence I left. If this is their intent of what the future of the Democratic Party is, then we need to restore the actual principles of equality and raising the social mobility for all. (As much as I disagree with FDR's new deal, and appeal more to JFK's sadly short presidency.)
     
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    You cannot compare conservatives to Hitler because Hitler was a totalitarian dictator like democrats dream of.
     
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    Interesting that you attack me over a statement I didn't make.

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    Which is what I was referring to of course
     
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    The platform is now the Trump platform. Trump has
    1) Called for Torture beyond waterboarding
    2) Called for the mass murder of innocent people [the families of terrorists]
    3) Called most but not all Mexicans rapists and murderers - treats groups as monoliths
    4) Said he loves war
    5) Said he wants to use nukes
    6) Uses the same message as Hitler - make Germany great again
    7) Appeals to primal fears and bias
    8 ) Mezmerizes crowds with fact free Speeches
    9) Wants to round up and deport millions of people
    10) Seeks to discredit the free press
    11) Praises despots and dictators
    12) Is highly narcissistic and possibly psychopathic.
    13) Seeks to use concentration camps and military prisons

    and these are just a few off the top of my head. This is certainly a recipe for Nazi Germany.

    But scarier than all of this are the attitudes of his supporters.
     
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    Ouch. That's uncomfortably accurate
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a nice list and all, but Trump cannot be hitler because he doesn't have a mustache. LOGIC BOMB, LIBS
     
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    <Rule 3> I don't know where you get your facts from, but they're mostly wrong.

    Let's start with 5. He never said he wanted to use nukes. Rather, he wanted to arm our allies(such as Japan) with nuclear weapons. An advanced form of containment, that I'm not sure I agree with. On one hand, a nuclear Japan would deter North Korea. But on the other hand, the more nukes are spread the less effective they are as an actual deterrent.

    This is some of the CRAP you've been spewing, to lead yourselves to believe a reality very different from the one that took place.
     
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    Then those posters are complete idiots and I will call them out as much as I call out delusional Liberals.

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    Question on that. Isn't there a prohibition in place since the Japanese surrender in 1945 that forbids Japan from having nukes?
     
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    Yea...let's talk about that. Trump being interviewed by Tweety Bird Mathews

    MATTHEWS: Where would we drop&#8202;&#8212;&#8202;where would we drop a nuclear weapon in the Middle East?
    TRUMP: Let me explain. Let me explain.
    Somebody hits us within ISIS&#8202;&#8212;&#8202;you wouldn`t fight back with a nuke?

    &#8230;
    MATTHEWS: OK. The trouble is, when you said that, the whole world heard it. David Cameron in Britain heard it. The Japanese, where we bombed them in 45, heard it. They`re hearing a guy running for president of the United States talking of maybe using nuclear weapons. Nobody wants to hear that about an American president.
    TRUMP: Then why are we making them? Why do we make them?
     

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