Let's put this Russian email/hacking thing to bed with common sense....

If the Russians were actually behind all this as liberals purport,

wouldn't the information they gleaned be way more valuable

if hillary would have won the election?

Well of course it would.........The Russians would have owned her.

Not that they didn't already.

This is all just common sense....

The Russians were able to run all over obama and

hillary gave them uranium.

Why on earth would the Russians prefer Trump to clinton?

 

If Russia did do it, I thank them. The government isn't upset because they were hacked, as they get hacked all the time. The government is upset because the American people are less in the dark to their corruption.

 

Only in Washington, D.C. is exposing the truth a national emergency. Like McCain said, "It's an act of war!"

 

No one really thought Clinton would lose to the Orange One. The intel agencies have said they aren't sure that Russia was trying to get Trump elected or just trying to undermine the Clinton administration once they gained office. Trump winning was a bonus

 

i can give you one reason without dipping into the basket of conspiracy theories we deplorables are supposedly so fond of - pragmatism. a glimpse back through modern russian history tells us there is a strong streak of pragmatism that runs through their governance. though often seen as cruel, most decisions have been made based on their practical outcomes and not on ideology alone. when faced with the a choice between the globalists in the clinton camp and the nationalists on trump's side, the answer is obvious for any nation that values its sovereignty. where a globalist will constantly attempt to undermine any nation that opposes his/her goal, a nationalist can be negotiated with on some common ground.

 

IMO the Putin thought that she would win and wanted to damage her Presidency before it began. It makes no sense that Putin would want Trump to win the election.

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Trump will be tough on Russia. He is keeping Putin (the enemy of the US) closer.

 

Let's see if I have this right. The Obama administration says Russia hacked in and helped Trump win. There is no indication that any votes anywhere were altered for Trump; in fact, just the opposite. All the results of the hacking show corruption by the Democrats, but the only point of interest is the RUSSIAN HACKING. Ignore the man behind the curtain. Is that about it?

 

This whole stupid deal is getting tiresome. The Obama regime is shooting the messenger. The message was, the democrat party was corrupt.

Way past time to move on.

 

This is a question posed to a leftie columnist who had written an editorial claiming that the Russians had dishonestly conspired to affect our election. 'In the interest of informing the US voters, if history could be changed would it be better if the information in the DNC and Podesta emails never have been disclosed.' He had no answer. Had the emails been disclosed by an investigative journalist he would have been hailed for performing a public service. The D's have never claimed that the information disclosed was in any way manipulated or inaccurate.

 

And the gov knows that hacking of itself or other private entities (DNC included) is occurring but has not taken action in any meaningful way until now.

 

There is no if about it. A multitude of US intelligence agencies have concluded that the it was what thisevof us whovare not blinded by partisanship knew before- the Russians are at fault. For anyone to say that this was a liberal story about Russia bring the enemy who cyber attacked is the same as assuming 1941 Republicans claimed that FDR and Democrats where just making unproven allegations against the Japanese. Lucky that Republicans by Dec. 7, 1941 behaved as good Americans should not treasonous partisan hacks.

You can babble all you want with would have, should have could have the facts are that thr Russians did and we cannot put this to bed unless you guys apply common sense and a mutt whatvwecall and you know what happened - the Russians did it.

Why on earth would the Russians prefer Trump over Clinton. Common sense , Putin owns Trump. Putin has been playing Trump for his 12 Year ok'd ego. Allutin needed to do was to compliment Trump and Trump kisses Putin's butt, wants to destroy NATO, end sanctions, nominates pro Russian traitors to hus cabinet.

Yeh wonder why Putin preferred Trump over Clinton. ��

 

I believe Clinton would have made a far more dangerous president both for Russia and America. Putin needs to be stopped, true. However I think there would have been very little diplomacy between Putin and Clinton. Instead I feared direct and violent conflict. I think Putin feared this too. Putin doesn't want to fight America. He wants it the way it is under president Obama. Under Obama, Putin can do almost anything he wants.

My guess is that Putin wants Trump because Trump is less likely to start a fight. Also I'm sure Putin thinks he can manipulate Trump. I think he's wrong but that's for another discussion.

To your point, I don't think Putin would have owned Clinton if she were president. The information in those exposed emails was embarrassing but nothing that would have any impact on her presidency. I saw nothing in those emails that could be used to blackmail Clinton, especially consider how much Clinton dislikes Putin.

I do think the Russians interfered and they did so to stop Clinton from being president. I think they made a mistake though because the interference didn't change the results and there's been no proof otherwise. The Russians showed their hand unnecessary and they undermined the guy they wanted (Trump) by making his victory look stolen.

 

You are so right. Supposedly next week the govt is going to release the proof that Russia hacked the election to give Trump a victory. If there is proof that Russia did that then we have a real problem. If there is no proof or if the proof is so weak that it makes no direct sense then the whole thing is just a bunch of crap dreamed up by Democrats for an excuse as to why Hillary lost the election. One thing is for sure, that Democrats are always going to fight Trump no matter what. They already hate him because they think he's going to take away their welfare checks and they just might be right.

 

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper affirmed an Oct. 7 joint statement from 17 intelligence agencies that the Russian government directed the election interference — and went further.
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/05/50835...lutely-behind-finding-of-russia-election-hack

Liberals????

Maybe from this point forward, we should just ask Putin who we should have for prez.

 

An investigative journalist is doing their job.

 

The Russians acted as an investigative journalist. Are you saying that the information they brought to the light of day should not have been disclosed. If so how does that square with the rights of voters to be fully informed ??

 

Has anyone verified the information they provided hasn't been doctored?
A journalist will have it reviewed, give sources, be open and people can see how they obtained it.

This was a covert operation, by what has been an enemy of the USA. And you're ok with this it seems.

 

The Russians acted as an investigative journalist. Are you saying that the information they brought to the light of day should not have been disclosed. If so how does that square with the rights of voters to be fully informed ?? The Washington Post assigned 20 reporters to cover Trump and dig up as much information as possible on him. They didn't get into any emails or possible did and there was nothing to report. But the bottom line is that if the D's had acted with integrity and fairness the disclosure of the DNC and Podesta emails would not have mattered a bit.

 

Or so interested parties might believe.

Trump is so unstable, that he could burn down any standing hear or around him. He's a dangerous man.

 

The DNC and Podesta have never claimed that the emails were not accurate. Wikileaks released the information. And voters were better informed because of this.

 

Doesn't mean they put out all information. Maybe they have more, maybe they have info on R's. I suspect they do.
Still, an enemy puts out good or bad info, and many don't care?
Although, an enemy won't put out good.

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So you trust an enemy of the USA. Got it.

You don't think RNC or similar was trying to dig up same dirt? Yet they didn't.

 

The Russian hack narrative was all about soothing Hillary's fragile ego.They knew they'd lost it when they cancelled their fireworks extravaganza a week in advance.

 

That does'nt make sense....

 

Nothing but unfounded babble....

 

The end does not justify the means. The fact that a foreign enemy even attempted to influence our election is in and of itself what every decent American should be up in arms about. It does not matter which political party was hacked or if the election was affected. The fact alone that there was an attempt to impact our election process is the only issue. I just do not understand his any American can celebrate the fact that a enemy state attacked an American institution. We are all Amerucans soban attack on one of us iscany attack on all of us.