Drugs in the Water

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  1. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This has been a concern for many years, but I wonder if we are seeing the affects of pollutants, including drugs, in the water of densely populated areas.

    If sewage treatment plants are not equipped to eliminate all pollutants and poisons, I wonder how vulnerable we are to adverse affects on populations, especially babies and children.
     
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    It is the agricultural use of antibiotics that is of most concern because we are fighting a losing battle with antibiotic resistance
     
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    The FDA is cracking down on the use of antibiotics in livestock feed and over the counter availability of certain antibiotics. Many drugs that could be bought before this year now require a vets prescription. I think it is about time. My animals get worm treatment... but even they have to be rotated to lessen the chance of resistance. I have been against giving antibiotics to healthy animals for years now. I even bought my own microscope to do my own fecal testing for worms.
     
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    I am also against persistent herbicides.
     
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    Mate, with all due respect that is almost TMI lols

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    Agreed we need to be cautious about the environment.
     
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    I just about always put forward TMI.

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    Is that a character flaw?
     
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    Those are the kinds of things the EPA needs to be refocused on.
     
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    They should test the well water at the owner's expense. Then the laboratory report would tell if the well is contaminated or not. If it is it's time for a new well in a different spot.
     
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    It is not just about antibiotics and herbicides.
    It is also about psychiatric medicines such as Prozac, heart medicines, etc.


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    Coast Guard seizes half a billion dollars of cocaine in the Pacific...
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    A serious thanks to you for your diligence and responsibility.

    However, the future of regulation policing and enforcement under this administration can not be anywhere close to assured.

    The result is that irresponsibility is rewarded with higher profit.
     
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    So, we're going to hand those out to every house in Flint?


    Or, are we happy with damaging the brains of thousands of kids, followed by whining about required social safety net costs and how those communities aren't being as productive as they could be?
     
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    No, I suspect the weak minded will keep expecting the government to come save them, just like in your response.
     
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    The catch here is that we've (corporations, agriculture, pipe materials, etc., etc.) managed to create toxics that the average person can not detect.

    Then, it gets fed to those who didn't realize someone had changed the system in a way that poisons them.
     
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    Your water supply will come under corporate control, just like your food supply has. That's where the world is headed. Nestle, Coca-Cola and others have made moves on buying up South American aquifers already.
     
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    An outcome of american capitalism. They still have not "fixed" Flint.
     
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    We used to be the govt. But yeah, since we handed it off to the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class, no one expects the power structure to do anything at all for citizens. Access to safe water to drink is a privilege to be earned by selling yourself to a "job creator".
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Yeah I'll take care of myself.
     
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    That's why you should want to filter your water.

    Let me see if I understand you: you blame the government for doing these things, then want the government to protect you from the government by giving you what you need.
     
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    Brits sure love to meddle in American matters.
     
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    No, I blame those who put the crap in the water in the first place. Usually, that isn't the government, but sometimes it is.

    Then, I want public water to be tested against agreed standards on a regular schedule to ensure it is what the provider says it is, since I can't do that myself.

    And, you have no idea whether your water filter is helping you.

    If the plan is to go to a system where each individual has to have a water filter, that is CRAZY (inefficient, unlikely to be successful, difficult for individuals to monitor, etc., etc.).

    AND, there needs to be a statement that we're going in that direction so that ALL citizens can take part.

    Knowingly killing the brains of the children in Flint or anywhere else is not an acceptable idea. In fact, it is a crime.

    That's why the perps in the flint case are being charged.
     
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    Between industry and 7+ BILLION human inhabitants of Earth today we already have areas of Earth that have been ruined by our abuses. Whether the issue is drugs in the water supply, or a million other abuses in place today, all of this cannot lead to a happy place. In many ways we have greatly degraded the health of our lakes and streams, our oceans, and our atmosphere and it gets worse each day that passes. Since most inhabitants of Earth live for the moment, few will think about our potential issues in the future, and volunteer to change today in order to have a better future. So whether it's water or everything else on Earth, I suspect we'll just march down our current paths until it's basically too late...
     
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    Good points.

    We just don't appear to be sensitive to the long term affects of our behavior. It's hard to believe that it makes a difference, unless one can accept the results of those who study the changes in our environment.

    So, it's garbage in the oceans and rivers, chemicals into our aquifers, lead into our water supplies, co2 into the atmosphere, etc., etc. - all coming in increments that we just can't believe could make a difference.
     

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