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    Quote Originally Posted by snakestretcher View Post
    What? We have no reason to fear Russia whatsoever. Where on Earth did you get that idea? Remember, it wasn't Britain who instigated the only crisis in history which could have led to global thermonuclear confrontation. That was America in 1962.
    America instigated the crisis in 1962? America? Who introduced medium range ballistic missiles into Cuba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    They've already done something stupid.


    Anyhow, my point stands. Islamic fundamentalists linked to nation states are a real nuclear threat. Our military plans for this exact scenario. It's a scenario our foreign policy is actually helping to create when we destabilize more secular Arab nations. When nations like Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Yemen etc turn further and further towards Islamic fundamentalism our world becomes a more dangerous place.

    Advanced weapons of warfare in the hands of religious fanatics is perhaps humanities number one threat in the 21st century. Especially when these fanatics are linked to nation states. (Which is usually the case.)

    A world war is already bubbling under the surface with Russia, Iran and China forming a sort of axis. We've been using Sunni proxy forces and fascists to fight Iran and Russia. Islamic fundamentalism is a wildcard, a dangerous wildcard. That sort of fanatical ideology nullifies mutually assured destruction. If these people get their hands on nukes they will use them.
    A world war is not bubbling anywehere. The US and Russia are about to have a friendship. As far as spying? We've been caught a dozen times so far. You always spy on your allies, friends, and everyone else. Everyone has always spied.

    Islamic terrorism will never spark a world war. An axis of nations banding together to fight other people can. However, we're about to open a major trade door so China and Russia will be making some cash with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    They've already done something stupid.


    Anyhow, my point stands. Islamic fundamentalists linked to nation states are a real nuclear threat. Our military plans for this exact scenario. It's a scenario our foreign policy is actually helping to create when we destabilize more secular Arab nations. When nations like Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Yemen etc turn further and further towards Islamic fundamentalism our world becomes a more dangerous place.

    Advanced weapons of warfare in the hands of religious fanatics is perhaps humanities number one threat in the 21st century. Especially when these fanatics are linked to nation states. (Which is usually the case.)

    A world war is already bubbling under the surface with Russia, Iran and China forming a sort of axis. We've been using Sunni proxy forces and fascists to fight Iran and Russia. Islamic fundamentalism is a wildcard, a dangerous wildcard. That sort of fanatical ideology nullifies mutually assured destruction. If these people get their hands on nukes they will use them.
    The danger of the future in terms of war and weapons of mass destruction is not Russia or China. It is the Empire of Islam, which fundamentally is imperialistic and warmongering. The religion itself was started by a warlord and it grew by war and forced submission. For over 1000 years this has never changed.

    The USA made a horrific mistake continuing to treat Russia as an enemy after the fall of the USSR and another mistake pushing for the break up of the Russian federation - leaving micro countries we are now supposed to defend since inherently they can not defend themselves.

    The USA and Russia have a common enemy - radical Islam - and rather than treating Russia as an adversary we should join forces with Russi against radical Islam. Us attacking in Syria to promote, train and arm radical Muslim insurgents is one of the best examples of how the goals of the militarists and military industrial complex can be 100% against American interests solely for the motive of profit and greed.

    The USA should form a military coalition with Russia against radical Islam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBayMatters View Post
    America instigated the crisis in 1962? America? Who introduced medium range ballistic missiles into Cuba?
    Indeed; if America had not first installed nuclear missiles (15 Jupiters in June 1961), in Turkey, pointing at Russia and hugely provocative, Russia would not have responded in kind. Read some history.https://turkeywonk.wordpress.com/201...issile-crisis/
    Last edited by snakestretcher; Jan 11 2017 at 12:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    Please don't treat me like a fool and we will get along in the future.
    I don't treat you as a fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throughout View Post
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38537689?SThisFB


    Very good. The more US tanks, soldiers, howitzers on Europe's soil - the better
    Stop using our military for your personal protection force, we pay for this crap with our tax dollars and it helps us ZERO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Democrat View Post
    Stop using our military for your personal protection force, we pay for this crap with our tax dollars and it helps us ZERO.
    Doesn't help us either; on the contrary it makes us a potential target. Take your crap home please, we're quite capable of defending ourselves.
    Last edited by snakestretcher; Jan 11 2017 at 01:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    I don't think it would be wise to pull our troop out of Europe.
    Count me in. Removing american soldiers from EU would tickle the ego of some russians but at the end of the day it would provoke the world war in the region where it always came from.It would be nice though if NATO doesn't play on our nerves, because Putin is exceptionally cold-blooded guy, but next time (in a decade or two) we might have our own Obama or Trump who would get the real military threat and the biggest attacking nuclear arsenal, which was made to overcome american strategic defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakestretcher View Post
    Doesn't help us either; on the contrary it makes us a potential target. Take your crap home please, we're quite capable of defending ourselves.
    I've always supported taking our crap home, but moron politicians want an empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Democrat View Post
    Stop using our military for your personal protection force, we pay for this crap with our tax dollars and it helps us ZERO.
    You are partly right. Europe have to pay more for its protection force. But Canada, Germany, United Kingdom also sends soldiers, tanks, missiles to Russia's doorstep. Not only US sends.
    There are some a--holes in the world that just need to be shot. Mad Dog

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