Is this what we can expect from Trump's deal making?

Have you heard the latest about Trump. First, he cozies up to Russia, and Putin supported him by initiating a three-month long smear campaign against his rival. All long he was saying to his cheering fans that he was going to put the screws to China. Well, guess what? China has been putting the screws to us in the export/import business for years.

Now all of a sudden Trump is making deals with a Chinese businessman. Or that is what he would like Americans to think. Actually, it is just another political scheme. Don't take my word for it. This is what Market Watch has to say about it.

Don’t be fooled by the latest billionaire meeting at Trump Tower after which “great” progress in American job creation is claimed: Alibaba won’t create 1 million jobs in the U.S. as promised, at least not directly.

On Monday, Alibaba BABA, +0.24% Chief Executive Jack Ma became, after a 40-minute meeting with Trump in the newly minted politician’s gold-plated tower, the most recent CEO to tout job creation.

However, Ma’s assertion that he’s going to create a million new jobs in the U.S. by helping small businesses sell products and services to China is a stretch. The Chinese e-commerce giant is merely upping its own investments to appeal to U.S. small businesses, providing them with incentives, such as user data and logistics capabilities, in hope that more American brands will sell items on its e-commerce sites. The increased demand for those U.S. goods from the Chinese middle class will prompt, it hopes, increased hiring as U.S. brands expand to meet the heightened demand.

These aren’t promises of traditional labor-force “jobs” that many Americans dream of when they listen to Trump’s rhetoric on job creation. They’re merely part of a publicity stunt that plays on Alibaba’s previous announcements to expand its presence outside of China, particularly in the U.S.

What a nasty trick. Trump will soon be our President. Is this what we can expect from him?

 

Fake news.

 

First highlight, Trump has been say that since 6-2016
Second highlight, when a writer uses phrases like "newly minted politician’s gold-plated tower" the writer loses credibility

 

I understand you allege to be a conservative.

However that claim may be, you are mourning for Hillary Clinton.

There can be no doubt you despise Trump. It seems we now must not only despise the Russians, but we also must despise the Chinese.

I will tell you since I rent space on a building owned by Chinese, those dudes are stingy. An Indian whose family came from India and is a sociologist told me today that the stingy Chinese won't heat this building when it is cold and I know that. We get those small space heaters that have a smell of gas. I know for a fact they refuse cooling in the Summer. Their stingy actions probably will be why I move out at the end of may. My last building had very good heat and cooling. But this Indian says the Chinese are stingy.

 

I'm afraid not. But if you feel that way, what is the true story about Alibaba? Here is the link to the Alibaba story.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/al...1-million-jobs-but-dont-believe-it-2017-01-09

 

Why is that? It is literary license. As usual, Trump fans just don't want to believe their hero could commit such a stupid political stunt.

Have you noticed? I watch Trump-friendly Fox News. It is my main source for news. Well, this one million jobs bonanza has fallen completely off the radar. There is a reason for that. Want to guess what it is?

 

There is no allege or claim involved. I am a moderate conservative and that is a fact. I definitely am not mourning for Clinton. I am having the time of my life. Trump is a lot of fun.

Despise is not quite the right word. I don't trust the Russians or the Chinese. They have given us every reason not to trust them. Wouldn't you agree? Surely, you can remember the Russians interfered in our election, attacked Ukraine and annexed Crimea, and, as an ally of Assad, is partially responsible for the deaths of 500,000 Syrians. Surely, you can remember the Chicom army attacked our troops on the Korean peninsula; China has engaged in unfair trade practices; and is aggressively taking islands in the South China Sea. You know they can't be trusted.

Your landlord is probably from Taiwan. What does your landlord have to do with anything? You trying to change the subject again, Robert? This is about Trump's latest foolish political stunt. I noticed you didn't have anything to say about that. You probably resent Trump for pulling that cheap trick.

 

I'm really enjoying reading whiny leftie posts!

 

It was un-necessary, snarky, Trump Tower as it is known would have been fine.

 

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I'm happy for you. Me, I'm not whining and I'm not a leftie. I noticed, like all Trump fans, you don't dare touch the substance of the article. You know it to be true.

 

Another Trump fan who doesn't dare touch the substance of the article. You know perfectly well it is a con job. Trump-friendly Fox News hosted Lou Dobbs yesterday. He is a commentator on the Fox Business Network. They talked happily about all of Trump's business deals, but Dobbs never mentioned Alibaba. In fact, neither Fox nor any other network has mentioned the Alibaba episode since it was announced a few days ago. According to Trump, it was supposed to bring in one million jobs! Why hasn't it been mentioned? Because Fox and everyone else knows it was a cheap political stunt. No Trump supporter in his right mind on this forum has up the so-called Alibaba deal.

 

Progressive Socialist Marxists and specifically Barack Hussein Obama have hung the albatross from their own necks. The whining and tantrums in the loss of Hillary will reverberate for a little while longer. Given the fact that Obama and his followers are leaving land-mines in the process of this newly elected government is significant. Their scorched earth practices will ne of no avail. Apparently the circulation of disinformation now called "Fake News". This latest concoction of so called scandal of Trump created by the immature Chan4 is just an example of the actions. Claiming that the Progressive Marxists are clutching at straws is apropos and succinct.

 

Look, why do you mind it that an Australian released actual then current data about the Democrats?
Australia gave the data to us. Did you want not to know what the Democrats were up to?

Seems you also do not trust the Australians.

Did Russia really interfere?

Gee, don't you suppose it is time to show evidence?

Had this happened to Trump, no doubt you would blame Trump.

But it was done to Obama, on his watch. Don't you wonder why the DNC failed to defend itself as had the RNC?

Keep pretending she lost due to the Russians who you act as if they are the former Soviets.

Obama gave Cuba a new chance but refuses that for the Russians.
And to please the Cuban dictatorship, today Obama told the hopeful Cuban escapees, they will get sent back to Cuba to face the dictator who never promised to hold those Cubans with no guilt. I wonder how many free cubans will get put to death due to the brand new Obama ruling.

I get a kick of how you claim that Putin attacks Russians that have the now misfortune to live under a newer form of dictatorship in their country.

I so not wish to treat you as dense since I believe you are smart. And had a distinguished military career.

Do you not respect the vote or hold them captive merely because one way to protest the failure we call Ukraine was voted out of office and were grateful to Russia that they accepted Crimea as a free nation?

 

I've had an understanding of Donald Trump since reading "The art of the deal" almost 30 years ago. It helped me greatly in my sales career and now in my business. I get it. I feel sorry for those who don't. Nothing that he does is surprising. As Patton once said of Rommel...."I read your book you son of a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)!".
I also read Obamas two books...that's one of the reasons that I never supported him. I like strong leaders, not wimps.

 

Obama had the duty to protect both the RNC site and the DNC site. That the DNC site failed to listen to him may not be Obama's fault, but surely not the fault of the Australian, Assange who as an Australian created wikileaks.

If he worried we could end up with Hillary, I am pleased he gave this nation a public service.

 

I never read Trumps books. Mainly due to my current library of great thinkers who were proven wealth builders.

Think and grow rich is a classic. The many lectures by Jim Rohn really are powerful. An unknown to virtually all Democrats is Tommy Hopkins and his lectures. I have so many of these sort of people the idea I needed one more book kept me from Trumps books. I have to check to see if I need more of the same old stuff or not.

[video=youtube;vZa29V2L-U4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZa29V2L-U4[/video]

 

Tom Hopkins is good, but different that Trump. Trump did what few have done...he made his name a worldwide brand. And he wasn't actually selling a product, but a brand...a lifestyle if you will. "How to sell" and other books like it are excellent at teaching sales techniques and tips, but Trump took it to a whole new level.

 

That is very encouraging. I am 78 but maybe I should achieve more wealth.

Tommy was in my business field a long time ago. And he was (per him) a top real estate salesman. I went to some of his presentations when he was at my real estate board. This had to be around 1974-75.

At that time, selling a million dollars of homes (prices around $25,000 per home) was a lot of work.

i got the award by my second year and was one of the top agents. I had considered selling insurance. I as Tommy did, got off to a sort of slow start. But near the end of year one, I was selling a lot of homes but too late in the year to be a member of the million dollar club.

In my career, i have come close to that in one sale.

I believe of some of his teaching turned me off. I got the feeling he sold cigarettes and told us they were good for our health. That to me is poor salesmanship.

 

Sales is about negotiation, not manipulation, which is sort of how I felt that Tom Hopkins and others sold. Donald Trump taught me how to run a business and build a brand. Deal with honesty and integrity. Hire the best people even if they cost more. Be a legitimate business. Those types of things.

 

Even though the then Tommy Hopkins show was mostly honest, there were things about him i had issues with.

The board never would have allowed some hustler to give us instructions.

But I studied sales as a machine shop owner prior to my leaving that to get licensed in real estate.

This much is quite clear. My study of many talents gave me a menu of things to pick from.

When I was one of the top area agents, I could play clients like a fiddle. But knowing human nature is not to rip them off.

My clients told me they needed a residence. I was then and now an excellent listener. I had clients frequently tell me that and how much they appreciated that trait in me.

My best skill of really hunting homes just the type they asked me for, and knowing some sales tactics, gsve them more time to enjoy life and for me, time to serve other clients.

It always was a huge win for them and I also won.

Bear in mind, no tricks to fool them were ever used.

 

You're right. ANYONE can sell a customer something once...the goal is to keep them as customers. In 30 years in sales, I've seen shooting stars who could sell anything to anyone once, but soon fizzled out. I've also seen old dogs who barely hung on through instinct without ever excelling. My favorites were guys like me who practiced and learned and followed up and kept in touch and took care of people after the sale. I started selling cars in 1985 and left in 2004 because of the internet...we became order takers rather than sales people.

 

I am not countering you whatsoever.

My first stint in sales was working gas stations. This was around 1956, Back then we were more than expected to clean windows and air up the tires, etc, but to get one of the oil companies products into your hands. It was a mild form of sales though.

The most troubling sales stint I had where I took the manager to the labor commission and won pay was selling encyclopedias.

I think this happened around 1958. Selling encyclopedias door to door was a hustle. i recall one guy that knocked it out of the park selling that sham.

I opened a speed shop when I was 22 and that involved sales. I sold at a lower price Chevrolet engines. I sold the 327 cu inch small block shortly after Chevrolet introduced them and sold some of the 348 cu in big blocks. Many of my customers did business with me since i had raced for 4 years by that time. The Draft put a stop to my race career.

I could have stayed in that for as long as I live since i was passionate about racing engines and worked out some designs.

In Hayward, CA there was the nationally famous racing parts store and I got business from them as well. Vic Hubbards actually is why I got the deal with Chevrolet to undercut the VH prices on those engines.

Anyway, my later regular machine shop never would have made it but for having to sell to keep my workers on the job. By the time i got into real estate sales, I had studied sales. My grounding of selling to experts helped a lot. Still, I kept studying sales.

I know your path is correct. I have trained my share of salesmen. My message was at all times, honesty is the best policy.

I never sold cars as a salesman.

By the way, I was a Democrat for many years. It was 1980 that I first voted for republicans. It felt like a cleansing process. I got into real estate in 1971 and my sales study had helped me. I started working for a republican and felt he is not honest. i went to work in 1973 for an honest republican. I enjoyed their company a lot. That company was sold off to Coldwell Banker. i left them to manage a locally owned company and that was my first training of agents job.

If Democrats could spend time where they are responsible to themselves for their own incomes, I think they would smarten up.

 

Still another Trump supporter who is unable to discuss the substance of my report. This has nothing to do with land-mines laid by Progressive Socialist Marxists and specifically Barack Hussein Obama, and there is no whining involved. It has everything to do with Trump's own actions, a cheap, transparent, moronic political stunt.

No wonder, Trump fans don't dare touch it. They know perfectly well it was a pretty dumb thing for Trump to do.

 

Another who blames the victim, the DNC, instead of the perpetrator of a crime, the Russians.

I have never said Clinton lost because of the Russians.

Another who is unable to address the substance of the OP and wants to change the subject. It won't work. Alibaba was another cheap political trick performed by Trout, and there is serious concern about what kind of a President we will have. The political stunt was moronic and totally transparent. Only a fool would think the American people would buy it.