Donald Trump fulfilled his obligations.

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    Insofar as I consider them 'obligations' anyway. If it were me, I would have pissed off the OGE and everyone else who practically clamored for Donald Trump's money, in the most hideous form of asset collection this country has openly seen. The distaste for the man has gone beyond politics and if Trump ended up having a terminal illness while in office, they would actually cheer and berate the man.

    Make no mistake: It was never about ethics(as though someone's businesses could run interference with political operations, no it really can't.). It was about taking claim to what was never rightfully theirs to begin with. Whatever one may think of Donald's business practices, he did them lawfully and ethically(for the most part.) He's not incarcerated, he's POTUS. Like it or NOT. Therefore, in this country that actually believes in private gains and earnings, he is entitled to what he has earned as a citizen(taxes aside, and yes that's the big gazillion dollar thing that's still out there.)

    That said, Donald took significant steps that while "isn't enough" for the moneygrabbers, is more than enough for me. It's significant that all foreign earnings would have been donated. That means the money and everything associated with it, is no longer a part of the Trump portfolio. So it doesn't matter anymore where his companies do business, it has no impact on Trump's bottom line now.

    And I do consider turning them over to his sons, to be a significant middle ground(and acceptable, again, to me. Someone who doesn't want Donald's wealth. I want my own wealth thank you.). Who here honestly thinks that his children will operate on his behalf? If Trump were really nefarious, he could have put all of his earnings in Barron's hands and have Barron act as a de-facto bank deposit that can't actually be touched.

    Seriously, he could have done that and there's nothing you could've done about it. Instead, Donald handed them to capable, functioning adults. That to me, is far more transparent. His adult children and associates are still human, psychologically they think of themselves first and foremost. Donald Trump, second. Believe me, it was probably very difficult for Donald to have to do this.

    But the security Donald does have regarding his wealth(which pisses off these vultures) is that the Trump family will think about the Family financial interest. So Donald's not going to leave the WH a broken man. Like he could have, if he were stupid enough to put it in a blind trust.

    No one does this. Mitt Romney would not do it, if he were elected back in 2012. Every businessman/student knows what a blind trust is, and most of us laugh at the concept. We didn't earn our wealth, just to say "Hey, you manage it!" It was never in the cards for anybody, and the public suggestion was pure greed.

    I'm calling out these public vultures, who use politics as a shield to basically try and rip the man of his earnings just out of sheer hatred that wouldn't have ended, even if he did put it in a blind trust. They would've tried to find something else, to tear him down.
     
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    From what I see reported, there is no legal obligation to totally divest one's self anyway. It has been traditional , however presidents for a long time have been politicians anyway, with primarily stock holdings to divest. Trump has hundreds of companies, thousands of properties- because he is the first businessman to be elected to this office that I'm aware of at anytime.I think the steps he has taken should be more than adequate to satisfy reasonable people, but of course won't satisfy the opposition. Nothing he might do would satisfy them anyway.

    It is also tradition to lay down your hostility after an election, accept the results and work to unify the nation. Show respect for the office and the task a new president must face, even though he is not your choice. Obama, as a first in history black president, was treated with respect by virtually all- and there were a lot of people that had to put aside a lot of feelings and tradition they had grown up with to do it. Yet, the progressive/democrat/liberal side today has chosen to continue to act out in a way that shames the nation, like spoiled brat children. I don't know what to call these people- but calling them "Americans" seems to choke a little coming out even as a courtesy.

    I don't bind myself to either party- because parties change too easily. I believe each person should decide for themselves, and live by the values they respect, which is where integrity and self-respect are based. Such a person is strong and independent- yet, controlled by the standards they hold themselves too, standards that prevent them acting like fools regardless of the situation. If you can set double standards to allow behavior you would despise normally because the game didn't work out the way you wanted- you do not have integrity or self-respect.

    Unfortunately, the shift in the democratic party over the last 20 years has been a creeping alignment with socialism, and with it a gradual shift in basic values. I criticized the republicans in congress for being roadblocks rather than arbitrators during Obama's administration. Now we see the other side plans to go far beyond that and make total fools of themselves under the authority of infantile emotions, lacking adult wisdom. Sad.

    Trump is not the wuss Obama was, and I don't think it's going to work for them. There's a new sheriff in town, and he doesn't bluff.
     
  3. tsuke

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    the thing about a blind trust which is what the left wants is that it requires trump to sell everything. Which means the Trump brand, which he has built up over the years, dissapears. The left knows that was never in the cards so they ask for it.

    Functionally instead of handing over job creating businesses to his children now and after death the left just wants it in a fund to go to the stock market which is a bad thing as well.
     

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