Almost The Entire World Is Going To Hell!!

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  1. jrr777

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    Today one cannot even bring God up, yet anything wicked they can. America has allowed for same sex marriage, we have legalized weed/marijuana, abortions, and so much more, yet we have kicked God out of the schools and public. God is not going to be very merciful on those who hide His children from Him. Nothing but demons walking around with the exception of only a few. Cursed, knowing nothing of the truth, because the truth is not wanted by them. They have constructed a life that is corrupt, and live this life of corruption, the only alternative is Jesus but for most He's just a joke. The entire earth is filled with abominations and wickedness, as in the days of Noah. Satan has everyone deceived, in lust after his evil ways and fornication, and hatred towards God and all of His righteousness.

    In what way can God's people bring more people to Him? One cannot be nice about it, the other person just simply says, "Haha ha haah, get a load of this guy what a dumb()()()! Satan having his way with nearly everybody, and everybody is clueless on the matter, dead already no life, just apart of a program that on it's own will go up flames. There is no love, people saying "I love you", or "I do", nothing but bs most don't even know what love is, how could they when they hate the truth. They're not in love, they're in lust. Which is why over 50% of marriages don't last, people are more interested in themselves, having no discipline for compromise, forgiveness, and righteousness. Love, that's funny.

    I am not proud of what God created let me cover it in make-up, let the devil paint my face so I'm sexy, God didn't do a good enough job. Let me get breast implants so I'm very sexy, never-mind the homeless, sick, or less unfortunate, I need $25,000 for implants, I also need a lip job, and a vacuum to suck out the fat. And once I get my BMW I will be perfect, everyone will adore me.

    America didn't allow swearing in music. Now we have children listening to rap, where they mention slanging crack-cocaine, killing, raping, b()()()h this, b()()()h that, ni()()a this, ni()()a that, drop it like it's hot, suck my ()()()() b()()()h, and people wonder what drives such evil, killing, raping, drug dealing and usage. Kids look up to this, and parents promote it, why because the parents are kids as well. Satan is everywhere in everything, and people are like, there is no such thing as God. Sick perverted demons. Oh they most certainly will have their reward. Keep laughing keep sinning, keep corrupting God's children. Keep doing your everyday life that contributes to the beast system. Ignore God, claim He doesn't exist. You'll have your reward.

    Infatuated by the bling bling. That's what our entire society is based off of. Worshipping at the altar of consumerism, worshipping money, worshipping materialism, caring not for other people, rather themselves, as it is written it would be in the last days. Sick demons that are dead already. No righteousness in them at all. "Claiming to be wise, they became fools."

    Destroying the planet with their way life, destroying the oceans, the natural habitats for the beasts of the field, spraying the sky's killing the fowls thereof, piling up trash from every single household, businesses, and everywhere man's touch is. They was given the earth and everything therein, and complete dominance over it all. And utterly destroyed it with their sinful nature. Sick demons they are everywhere.

    Homosexuals being felt sorry for, legislation being passed for all these demons. Men dressing as women, women dressing as men, surgical implants transforming one gender to the other, completely messing with God's creation clear down to the molecular level. Sick demons, perversion and lust causing them to cut open, slice, and transplant parts from another person on to them all to fulfill their lust and perversions Sick demons.

    Can you believe the things he's saying. He is pissing me off. Yeah truth hurts, that's why it's hated.

    Everybody will continue their abominations clear up until they see Him, and then they will be like, "I'm so sorry I didn't know, please forgive me." No, you did know and you wanted these things, so you can have them. "I never knew you, depart from me yea that work iniquity."

    Again keep laughing.

    Please Jesus come and destroy this evil that is everywhere, this evil that doesn't allow for you or your people. Please Jesus bring your kingdom and peace here to earth.
     
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    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    What was Jesus' stance on political issues? He resisted when people came to make him king (John 6:15), he made a clear distinction between the worldly and divine (give unto Caesar, Mat 22:15), he rejected the idea that his kingdom was of this world (John 18:36).

    Of course, anyone's interpretation is subject to debate, but I do not find it obvious that Jesus thought he should bring any kingdom here or that having him in schools or public.
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you off your meds today?
     
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    I'm not going to hell. I'm going to Narnia.

    I have exactly the same amount of evidence Narnia exists, as you do for hell.
     
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    What loving God would do such a thing?
     
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    They reckon its bloody hot down there...I guess I wont need to take a coat...
     
  7. jrr777

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    KJB-
    Matthew 7:21
    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

    What is the will of our Father which is in heaven. The 10 commandments, and to spread His word. How can we do that if were not teaching our young.

    KJB-
    Jeremiah 8:9
    The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?

    Without the word, you are without wisdom.

    KJB-
    Proverbs 9:10
    The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

    When it comes to education, what or who is wiser than our Father which is in heaven, the creator of everything? The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, this does not mean wisdom cannot be gained elsewhere, but do have the fear of the Lord, acquiring knowledge would be that much greater, no matter the topic.

    Our Father who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thine kingdom come thou shall be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

    The New Jerusalem will be Jesus kingdom for 1,000 years here on earth.
     
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    Cricketts.
     
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    You can teach your own children. Nobody is stopping you from teaching your children the 10 commandments, the only objections are about people wanting the state to do it for them.
    I don't see that this addresses any of the issues at hand. I suggested that the will (and word) of the lord is to let politics do its own thing. How wise one can be considered without following it is not relevant to figuring out what the will of the lord is.
    I don't see how any of this threatens my suggestion that God would want to keep preaching and stately functions separate.

    That sounds like a request more than a prediction, and given the track record, God does not seem to attempt to bring religion into the state. I mean, are you suggesting that he's trying to make the state more religious but failing?
     
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    When things get too rough in the real world you can always move to Vatican City.
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If his God came back as hitler on steroids, he would still follow him.
     
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    God and Jesus want all of earth to be their way, and their laws. So your making no sense, and I mean no offense whatsoever.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Principalities is politics, legislation passed specifically for our united beliefs, morals, and principalities. There are also laws passed as to discipline, to uphold those principalities.

    One huge example although may seem small, would be music. America used to never allow swearing in music. This is specifically just discipline as to not allow "as we have", gangsta rap which is all about violence, rape, killing, drugs, suck my d()()() b()()()h, smoke weed everyday (that's an actual song title), heaven for a g (another title) "g" as in gangsta. All promoted by parents, why because they grew up listening to it, so how can it be bad for their children to. I've seen kids in car-seats, with the mom and dad blaring the radio showing off their bass, completely careless to the child's ears. Making the young think this is not only ok, but the way to be, for there is no God. I won't even get started on Hollywood, where what use to be rater R is now rated pg-13. Just think, soon pornography will be rated g.
     
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    No, you don't. There are plenty of examples in this life where people are justly punished. The symbol of justice can point to the existence of a heaven or hell. The same cannot be said for Narnia.
     
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    Well, thank Obama for queerifying America. I agree with you to a point...basically agree with much of what you said except god and Jesus. Sure our world is going to hell. But not biblical hell, it is just degenerating and standards are declining. God and Jesus...they are all manmade fantasy and lies.

    http://godfinder.tumblr.com/post/132405757586/godfinder-archive

    I mean if you god did exist that god is a evil god. Read your bible...EVIL! If you god existed and listen to you order it around what would that say about your god? Suck it up, move on and realize you need a crutch to get through life and you have been lied to all your life.

    ...and listen, in a pinch some of them shemales have some pretty juicy breasts. You'd be happy to have one if your were marooned on a deserted island!
     
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    Is Jesus' law sharia?
     
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    Of course I do.

    Nothing points to the existence of either.
     
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    It really hurts you to see your god being revealed as impotent.

    The world turns away, people think for themselves and discover a higher and better morality than what your bible preaches and there is nothing you or your god can do about it.
     
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    Thank you for your posts. It helps me understand how someone like donald could be selected president.
     
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    Let me repeat myself; the symbol of justice in this world CAN point to the existence of heaven or hell. The same cannot be said for Narnia.
     
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    Nope. They both have the exact same amount of evidence for their existence.
     
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    This thread has an interesting title "Almost The Entire World Is Going To Hell!!" because it's reflective of one of the ideas in the Babylonian Talmud and also the special status that Paul gave himself in the Bible.

    According to the Babylonian Talmud no rabbi can ever go to hell. That's a powerful exemption because they can commit all kinds of severe and disgusting crimes without facing the consequences of being tossed into hell (or the lake of fire, which is a better description of the Talmud hell).

    As it says in the Babylonian Talmud Talmud - Mas. Chagigah 27a

    "R. Abbahu said that R. Eleazar said: The fire of Gehinnom13 has no power over the Scholars. It is an ad majus conclusion [to be drawn] from the salamander. If now [in the case of] the salamander, which is [only] an offspring of fire, he who anoints himself with its blood is not affected by fire, how much more so the Scholars, whose whole body is fire, for it is 14 written: Is not My word like as fire? saith the Lord.
    Resh Lakish said. The fire of Gehinnom has no power over the transgressors of Israel. It is an ad majus conclusion [to be drawn] from the altar of 15 gold. If the altar of gold, on which there is only a denar thickness of gold, is not affected through so many years by the fire, how much less so the transgressors of Israel, who are full of good deeds as a pomegranate [is of seeds]; for it is written, Thy temples are like a pomegranate split open. Read not ‘thy temples’ [rakkathek] but ‘thy worthless ones’ [rekanim shebak].
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    (13) A fabulous animal generated in fire which, according to the Midrash, must burn incessantly for seven days and nights; but Rashi here postulates seven years, and the Aruch (s.v.) seventy years. For a fun account of the legend, v. J. E. vol. X, pp. 646-7.
    (14) Jer. XXIII, 29. ihtau
    (15) Denarius, v. Glos. For Moses wonder at the miracle, v. Tosaf. s.v.
    (16) Lit., ‘precepts’.
    (17) Cant. IV, 3.
    (18) Lit., ‘thy empty ones’. The thought is the reverse of Eccl. VII, 20; there is none in Israel that sinneth, and yet doeth not good, for even the transgressors, devoid of merit as they may seem, still have innumerable good deeds to their credit."
    http://halakhah.com/pdf/moed/Chagigah.pdf

    Notice how it says that there are no real sinners in Israel because even the worse person has enough good deeds to his credit to overcome all of the bad things he has done.

    In the Bible in 1 Corinthians 6:12 Paul is telling the crowd how certain people will be excluded from the kingdom of God but not him because all things are lawful for him but not for them.

    1 Corinthians 6:12 (NKJV) = "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

    So Paul is saying that his own particular good deeds will give him a "get out of hell card" because they outweigh the load of evil things that he did because he was a Jew. That's exactly what the Babylonian Talmud says.

    Jesus said that he was a rabbi but the story has him spending three days in hell.
     
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    As I said before, religion and gods are all man-made gobbledygook.

    Religious nutters are like the compulsive gambling addicts and live in a dream world.

    Gamblers Anonymous on the subject…

    “A lot of time is spent creating images of the great and wonderful things they are going to do as soon as they make the big win. They often see themselves as quite philanthropic and charming people. They may dream of providing families and friends with new cars, mink coats, and other luxuries. Compulsive gamblers picture themselves leading a pleasant gracious life, made possible by the huge sums of money they will accrue from their ‘system’. Servants, penthouses, nice clothes, charming friends, yachts, and world tours are a few of the wonderful things that are just around the corner after a big win is finally made.

    Pathetically, however, there never seems to be a big enough winning to make even the smallest dream come true. When compulsive gamblers succeed, they gamble to dream still greater dreams. When failing, they gamble in reckless desperation and the depths of their misery are fathomless as their dream world comes crashing down. Sadly, they will struggle back, dream more dreams, and of course suffer more misery. No one can convince them that their great schemes will not someday come true. They believe they will, for without this dream world, life for them would not be tolerable.”

    Are you ready to admit you have been lied to your entire life and all gods are fantasies created by humans to keep you under control. Admitting the problem is step one!
     
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    Of course all gods are man-made. The Bible even tells how men make gods. The god racket is a good business model because it gives the con men power, status, and wealth. The vast majority of people simply go along to get along and never do any critical thinking about their religious beliefs.

    People, since we are social animals, love and demand strong leaders who act with confidence and determination even if what they are doing is completely destructive. The average person hates to do his own thinking and loves it when someone tells him what to do and how to do it. That's how con men are able to use imaginary deities to their own benefit, People want to believe so they deceive themselves. Con men guide them into believing the con.

    Have you ever considered Martin Luther?

    At one time he was a nice Catholic priest sitting in a mud hole far from power and fame. Then one day he decided that he might be able to run his own con game. So he attacked his own gang. Now that did take a certain amount of guts and conviction since his gang could have killed him for his disloyalty. But he was lucky. He shacked up with a nun and then convinced the local yokels that he had received some sort of divine revelation that revealed that his former gang was full of crap about the religious thing that he had been a part of for most of his life. And guess what? They believed him! And then his converts converted even more people, mainly based on their own connections. And before you knew it the two gangs were killing each other by the tens of thousands all across Europe just because one guy wanted to be someone special.

    And since then a lot of other people have followed that model and started their own cults. People can't start a new Catholic or Orthodox church but they can start new Protestant churches at any time they want to. And it's even possible to start a new Islamic cult if you have the guts to do it. Judaism seems to have a full house of cults right now so there's no opportunity there.
     
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    None taken. If I'm not making sense, I am the one who should clarify.
    That's not a Jesus-quote, is it? The Jesus quotes and actions I mentioned I would consider more relevant. Besides, I would suggest that this quote of yours has to do with people not being allowed to practice their religion, which in practice is quite different to Christianity taking a central place in government.
    I think it's clear enough what Jesus thought one should do, for instance not kill (I don't think Jesus mentioned rape or drugs in any relevant and unambiguous way, but that's for another debate) but the matter here is what Jesus thought one should do in order to get others to follow the same rules. He said "Thou shalt love the God/neighbour...", "Thou shall not swear" and so on. He did not say "Everyone shall love the God/neighbour", "Make sure nobody swears". Jesus' commandments seem to me not to stretch beyond the individual believer and certainly does not into government.

    "If ye love me, keep my commandments" seems to indicate to me that the following of these rules is a covenant between Jesus and the believer. It seems to me a person who does not believe, or who believes something different, is not under order to keep those commandments.
     

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