Trumps defense secretary Gen. James Mattis Placing Russia first among threats

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  1. litwin

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    expected , and predicted news . its really bad day for the paid trolls in Ogino, where they can put Obama name in this story? LOL Republicans are the worst nightmare of ulus of juchi) they will never work as a puppy of kleptocracy PS God Bless the USA :salute:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.ce1fc29da975
     
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    Kremlin may not be happy with this...but then when is Kremlin/Muscovites happy, one just need to look at their angry , constipated faces and it says it all.
     
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    The neophyte Trump should heed the warning of a veteran when it comes with this matter. This not anymore a monetary business.
     
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    They say Mattis is the closest match to Gen. George S. Patton that can be found in the US military today. If you're Russia, China, Iran or any other entity that wants to test Trump's mettle you might want to reconsider.

    [video=youtube;knIGYh5SWBU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIGYh5SWBU[/video]
     
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    I have no confidence in LICE Trum's mettle but I have a lot of confidence in Gen. Mathis.
     
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    I agree that most Republicans are strong on our defending us and our allies against enemies such as Russia but I do not feel that Trump or his gang of Trumpeizda thugs understand that Russia is an enemy.Hope Mathis can positively influence them.
     
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    Don't get too excited. From your link:

    Asked about the possibility that Trump’s Cabinet nominees may differ with him on Russia, incoming press secretary Sean Spicer said that the president-elect was “not asking for clones” in selecting his senior advisers. Still, he said, “at the end of the day, each one of them is going to pursue a Trump agenda and a Trump vision.”

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    Russia is not an enemy.
     
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    According to Gen. Butler, who wrote War is a Racket, indeed it is a monetary business. War is driven by a few people making tremendous profits.

    I think what separates the Trump's pick from the neocons is the general does not want to risk a nuclear war and will not irresponsibly act towards Russia, trying to pick a fight, getting a war started. You can be tough towards Russia, without being utterly insane as we have witnessed recently.

    We can put Graham, McConnell and McCain on a hydrogen bomb dropped from a stealth bomber, and let em ride it down like Slim Pickens did. Let em put some skin in the game in their irresponsible war mongering. Hopefully Trump's pick will not want to send them out over Moscow. He remembers he is supposed to be protecting us, not incinerating us.

    So, he will not play Russian Roulette with the American people. When your congress is exhibiting not only irresponsibility towards Russia, but what at times is insanity, you better have someone like the Gen. to whip the crazy thoughts out of their alcohol crazed brains. Being tough responsibly and being bat crap crazy are oil and water.

    Frankly I am glad we got a crew of real leaders up there, and trump is surrounding himself with men who want to make America great again, fill her guts up with an economy that makes her stronger, after being hollowed out, starving the People. Use some wisdom in foreign policy, and stop destabilizing the world with these elite capitalist driven wars and regime change. Not just the middle east but even the Ukraine, hoping to take Russia's only warm water port away, trying to strangle her economically, remove some of her defense capabilities. What are we really trying to keep Russia from doing? Could it be russia is hindering an elite driven globalist hegemony? Why was Russia on the neocon think tank list in the New American Century? What does russia really stand in the way of? There is the meme of selling russia as being another Hitler, just waiting for the opportunity to start the land grabbing aggression, with its vodka soaked brain eyeing western Europe. They want what Hilter wanted and more.

    Of course it is utter nonsense. It is a lie. And of course there is a motive or motives behind it that are not in the self interests of 99.99999999 percent of americans. In fact it puts these americans at great risk due to the motive of elite profit driven, power driven, globalists. Fascism, oligarchy, the newest scheme created by age old greed.
     
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    General Butler's remarks that war is a racket is true, but I could differ when it comes to Russia, war business is only applicable with conventional ones but never with nuclear oriented confrontations. Russia with all regards could not sustain a conventional war against the US/NATO Alliance meanwhile it is in par with US in terms of nuclear arsenals, in view to this fact I could say that the advantage of Russia is only through nuclear means which is of course Russia will only use if it's very existence is being threatened. The move of NATO/US is very calculative basing upon the fact that it will never confront the alliance just because of the risk and Russia's inadequacy. It is only to contain Russia's pose of aggression which is the main motive of NATO and never to invade Russia for doing the latter is also pose great danger towards Europe considering the same scenario of nuclear holocausts.

    Trump's move of instead befriending Russia, I could say also unfavorable for in past events Russia demonstrated that it's present administration does not have any regard respecting sovereignty and territorial rights when it comes to prospering their own and considering also that they the Russians did muster military power and might to achieve the goals of their self interests. I think what's being needed is to restrain Russia and never to tolerate for an unstable Europe would greatly affect the US but also the entire world and an unstable Europe if dire enough could even instigate a nuclear war considering the capabilities of some prominent NATO members.

    Pressure Russia and forced it to align with the civilized world for harmony, NATO/US alliance still do have the means to do so for now.
     
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    That should make you very happy knowing you will be on the front lines for the Soros one world order freaks ...with them in charge of course. I just read the Washington 'Trotskyites' think that the war can be contained in Europe, and that it won't affect them... but I also read they have bunkers deep in the ground just in case it goes beyond Europe.

    If you're lucky, the Christians in the US might object to Europe turning into another Middle East ...but don't bet on it.


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    Russia has strong traditional values, as do other countries, and will never bow to Soros' one world order agenda. As Vladimir Putin said at the UN when referring to the destruction and deaths caused by the US in the Middle East; "do you people realize at least what you have done?"
     
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    The truth about Russia, a subtlety perhaps missed by most, is that they long were and to some extent remain a rival of the US and our strategic alliance with Europe, but are not an enemy. An enemy would be hostile. Russia is not. The Russians are open to good relations with the US. It's just that they also have certain strategic interests that the US insists on opposing at every turn. Added to this is the long-standing European attitude towards Russia, which of course was formed decades ago during the Cold War, when the USSR's dominance of certain countries and regions in Europe, coupled with the extreme rivalry between the Communist regime and the western regimes, led to very negative attitudes and great fears of possible military conflict.

    We are still struggling to emerge from that past, and some of us are sadly struggling to try and maintain that past even without the USSR, choosing to view modern Russia the same way.
     
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    Ironic when they did the same in Syria. ;)
    What should be that strong traditional values of Russia,
    would you please care to elaborate.
     
  14. litwin

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    You know nothing about Muscovite history,it list most of its war, they lost 2 wars to small Chechenya and pay yearly huge war contribution to bunch of sheepherders , Afghanistan , Ukrainian war, Crimian war in 19c, Japan 1905, etc.
     
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    Think about that. 'Pressure them, and force them to align for harmony'. Now, when has it ever worked? The Soviet collapse was an economic collapse, not a military one. I don't think people recognize that you didn't want to CONFRONT the Soviets, you wanted to bankrupt them. Furthermore, increased US "defense"(military) spending means less dollars overall to our declining social and infrastructure programs. Big parts in making "America" great again.

    NATO no longer secures the North Atlantic, for the very reason that it depends on the US. In the Russian calculus therefore, it becomes very simple "Remove the US, and we can conquer the North Atlantic." It impels the Russians towards the war that McCain wants. But I don't think he realizes how nasty it's going to get.

    An independent, and strong Europe defensively, secures the European continent much better than its dependence on the US. And in turn, the US extension will one day lead to a military overthrow, as Rome once lost its Empire.
     
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    That's pretty rich from the Kremlin midget..considering how many war crimes the Muscovites committed!
     
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    They needed help from usa in ww2 against the Krauts.
     
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    How would we spend more if the troops will just be stationed their keeping the pressure, the rationale behind is that even though military and economic pressure are imposed they are still given that option to align with the West. I think it's just a matter of being with the group they could even continue conducting commerce within the EU with their gas and oil supply more freely.
     
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    What is so amazing is that General Patton had a very high squeaky voice.

    HE might have been taller than George Scott was when he still lived.

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    Topic title- "Trumps defense secretary Gen. James Mattis Placing "Russia" first among threats"
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    Huh? Russia is on the other side of the planet from America, so where's the "threat" to the USA?
    As for NATO, Trump has already criticised its structure.
    If Putin decides to invade anywhere, why should America care? How would the American people feel about sending US servicemen to die for the corrupt incompetent European Union??

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    I fear this is bigger than Donald Trump. Much bigger!!
     
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    mattis is maybe the only sane person in the trump team. I have heard Trump greatly admires him, so we can hope that Mattis will teach trump how things are. Trump doesn't know much about these things, and that's bad.. but could turn out to be good as long as some sensible person like mattis teaches him.
     
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    Yes, because Patton was mentally unstable too?
     
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    Donald Trump is #1 when it comes to making decisions
    on America´s financial/economic matters,but continues
    to surround himself with what appears to be more than
    capable personnel/Cabinet members who look after the
    nations other affairs,both foreign,and domestic.
    Isn´t it dreamy/lubby-dubby?
    All I personally admonish those of maybe another persuasion
    is that they´d better get used to it.
    For there´s a new sheriff in town.
     

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