No wonder the democrats lost

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Liberals, democrats, the MSM, and the far left was shocked that Trump won, They shouldnt have been.

    Look where the radical left, and the senile old fools that lead the democrat party has led them. While they wont admit it, the Obama admin has been a total failure. Liberals show more support for ciminals, illegal aliens, and the lazy drones in society that simply dont want to work, than they do for the laws of the land. This is compounded by senile old fools like Pelosi that was on the morning news AGAIN blaming Bush for the additional 10 TRILLION DOLLARS that we are further in debt under Obama. Then we have nutso democrats in Congress like Lewis that says Trump was not legally elected. Does he not understand the Constitution. This kind of bleating and lies were simply too much for the average real American to take, so they elected Trump. The American voter stood up and said this stupid and sometimes criminal drift to the left of government must stop. Democrats need to understand this.
     
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    liberals are the biggest threat to America.....

    Thank God for that liberal smasher President Donald J. Trump.............
     
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    Yes, and while all of that is true the Right needs to realize that Hillary Clinton did win the Popular Vote, which in turn means that far too many 'citizen's are now adherents of an 'Give Me Free Stuff' outlook in which an ever shrinking pool of productive people are paying for everyone else's lifestyle and those GMFS citizens are either too selfish or so ill-educated that they cannot or will not . . . do . . . the . . . math. They will try again and again and again to elect leaders who will pander to them rather than make certain that jobs are available and then tell them to set aside the welfare pipe and get off their self-indulged, couch potato rumps and work for a damn living. So forth and so on. Yes Hillary and Obama were rejected THIS TIME but the future remains the future, and their spiritual inheritors will replace them.
     
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    Didn't you just post something about how the left and the MSM were Trump haters. Doesn't this post reflect the same type of hate that you attribute to others?

     
  5. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you are confusing fact with hate.
     
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    Well said. Trumps greatest speed bump and one I cannot fathom to address. How to educate a zombie?
    This problem will post date Trumps presidency and life. I've been of the opinion for many years now it cannot be solved at least not to a satisfactory healthy state for the country. The long term outlook is not good.
     
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    Get a chance explain to the left how the Bush Administration warned the left several times that there was a threat looming but under the ever watchful guidance of grease ball Barney Frank no changes were made and the rest is history!
     
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    Reagan doubled the debt.
    Bush doubled the debt.

    It's pathetic that certain conservatives try to claim that roses grow from their arses when it comes to the debt.
     
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    Well a mathematician you aint ;)

    It is now 2017 and the debt under OBarry is 19,958,651,530,000, I think you missed a decimal point to two! So what's your favorite kool-aide flavor, Berry :roflol:
     
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    I agree with you though I voted for Hillary Clinton.

    I will repeat what I've said before; the Democrats aren't listening. When people complain about paying their bills or finding a job, in other words everyday, concrete concerns they are told that global warming is a more serious threat. People don't want to be told that a problem of concern to university academics is more important than feeding themselves and their family.

    Similarly when people say they don't feel safe because of incidents like San Bernardino, Orlando, Paris, Brussels and the like they're told not to engage in Islamophobia. Wrong response.

    On a non-federal level, people feel hemmed in by getting tickets for texting, when they were merely hitting the "next song" button on their phone. Yes, that happened to me.

    In other words, to quote Jonathan Edwards in the song "Sunshine" that came out in 1971 or 1972, "you can't even run your own life I'll be damned if you'll run mine."
     
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    You need to understand the difference between fact and opinion. Also the difference between criticism and name calling...
     
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    I suppose by action and admission there is no possible argument to your claim!
     
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    Correct. Personally I think it's too late for this nation since the Left has essentially been in full control of the public educational system for decades and shove massive amounts of Cultural Marxism down the throats of students on a non-stop basis. Just about anything that could enlighten a student has been either so watered down or eliminated by leftists at this point that it might as well never have existed. Even if the Right were to take control of the educational processes again the next leftist president would find a way to reinstate Cultural Marxism. Of course there are other issues and problems as well. Education is only one aspect of leftist generated attacks on this nation.
     
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    Your argument illustrates the leftist math solving skills perfectly. Lets see if you really believe what you just wrote though to check.
    Person A had 10 dollars on his credit card and added another 10 this month
    Person b had 10000 in credit card debt but only added 700 dollars to it this month.
    If you had to pick between one of those two credit cards to pay off...which would you choose and why?
    I realize you will never answer and thats just as good to prove my point.
     
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    Both you and Logical bring to the forefront the problems facing this new administration and the years ahead. I write on not only 4 or 8 years down the road but decades into the future. Progressive Socialist Marxism has become the multi-headed Hydra that must be destroyed. This is a tall task and the foundation for this is what our forefathers gave us. Education is the foundation of this country and that is where it must start. All we have to do is look at the state of affairs the system the Left has created and where our young are headed. We've already lost a generation to Socialism in my view. IMO, Conservatives must attack the problem on all fronts, but keep in mind that education will either destroy us or make us win this fight against Progressive Social Marxism.
     
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    Yes, the Obama admin has been such a failure of catastrophic proportions.

    We still have Ford, we still have GM, we still have Chrysler, thanks to Obama we have Volvo making the S90 here, Ford with their Focus, and FCA with the Jeep Wagoneer. Not to forget to note the countless other vehicles being produced in America by Nissan, Toyota, Hyundai Motors, and Honda. God forbid with Obama, all these jobs were saved. God forbid with Obama, and a "toxic" SCOTUS, the LGBTQ community doesn't have to hide in the closet anymore.

    Yes, the Obama admin was such a total failure....
    You Trump boys never fail to crack me up.
     
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    Well said. We are watching the Left's stranglehold on the media actually kill off the media right before our very eyes to the point that now ONLY leftists are inclined to believe what any of the traditional broadcast outlets or leftist cable outlets say about anything. Next we really need to take back the nation's educational system from leftist control, cut out all traces of Cultural Marxism and go back to teaching the classic so that every student of the public school system shares a more or less identical educational background rooted in classic literature, in years of teaching of real history and so forth. They have to know what the U.S. Constitution is all about and why it is a vital document and why the Separations of Powers concept was initiated and -- hell -- why a president is elected by the Electoral College rather than through the mob rule Popular Vote.
     
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    IMO, that is the major problem today. and the progressive left has effectively blurred the lines between all those things, equating accusations with truth, name calling AS criticism, & declaring opinions & beliefs as fact.

    There is little due process going on today, or scientific methodology. And this is DIRECTLY attributable to leftist educational indoctrination, which they have controlled for over 40 years.
     
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    I wish I understood your point.
     
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    Being a liberal well versed in mathematical arts, I have to say that your choices are rather poor ones. You see liberals, real liberals, are educated and led by empiricism. That being so, early on I did the actual math and saw that to finance one's life by way of loans was to unnecessarily give away a portion of one's earnings.

    That is to say that one is much better off in the end by financing tomorrow's adventures with yesterday's profits rather than financing today's adventures with tomorrow's income.
     
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    How many times has it been that I have had to point out that conservatives spend so much time hating liberals that don't exist, that they don't notice the real liberals who are passing them by.

    The Biggs boson has been found, computers continue to shrink in cost with continuous improvements in speed and functionality, autonomous cars are on the verge of becoming everyday reality, cures for cancer are being found, non-carbon emitting energy sources are poised to overtake the burning of fossil fuels......

    Liberals are the ones that move society forward.
     
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    Lots if talky...as I correctly predicted, the question would not answer. Thanks, this illustrates the point I wanted the readers to see.
     
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    :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

    I'm sorry.. were you being serious? Shirley, you jest! :smile:

    I always like it when progressive leftists say the exact opposite of reality, as if merely declaring it dogmatically make it true. Unfortunately, all the history & evidence says otherwise. Progressives are intolerant, dogmatic, have no concern for due process, scientific methodology, or reason. That is my personal experience in this forum, as well as others, & my observation in the visible world. Your claims border on the absurd.. and were it not for the fact that progressives constantly lie & distort reality, i would think you were kidding. But i suspect you are attempting a serious post, and are hoping to deceive any simple minded readers who see what you wrote.

    My only 'hate' is for the lies. I am a seeker of Truth, & it is very important to me. I see truth as a worthy goal, & not just as something to manipulate for a political agenda. For that reason, i hate the lies.. regardless of where they come from. And the progressive left seems to have the most, & rely on them for their propaganda.
     
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    That is inflammatory unsupported slander fueled by hate.


    His comments have nothing to do with constitutional issues. It seems you didn't pay attention to what he actually said before criticizing what he said.


    Trump's election had nothing to do with Lewis or comments he made later. The reason people didn't want to vote for Hillary is that she proved herself to be a status quo establishment candidate.


    No, you need to understand it. People didn't object to a "drift to the left" if they were so heavily interested in Bernie. They rejected establishment candidates which means they wanted someone more to the left, and if not to the left, then a non-establishment candidate was fine with them. And by the time we got to the general election, there was no candidate to the left of Hillary, so nearly half the voters chose Trump.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unsupported slander. Not really just look who they have supported to buy their vote.
     

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