Short list of all the countries that influenced the election for Clinton

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  1. tsuke

    tsuke Well-Known Member

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    Foreign Involvement?

    With all the noise coming out of the left in the past couple of days trying to delegitimize President Trump I thought I would compile a list of all the foreign entities that tried to influence the election on behalf of Secretary Clinton and the democrats.

    Pope Francis (Catholic Church) - Released a statement saying that Donald Trump was not Christian if he wanted to build a wall along the southern border.

    Vicente Fox (Mexico)- Constantly went on air saying that Trump was a liar, a bigot, racist, and pretty much everything else you can think of.

    David Cameron (Great Britain) - Said that Mr. Trump's thinking was stupid and wrong. Great Britain also proposed banning Mr. Trump from visiting the country.

    Alwaleed Alsaud (Saudi Arabia) - Mentioned in a live interview that Mr. Trump was a disgrace and should withdraw.

    Christine Legarde (IMF) - In another attempt to sway the public she gave an interview and said that she and her organization was concerned about Trump's stance on trade.

    Sandro Gozi (Italy) - Said that Trump's solutions were false. No mention on the solutions of Secretary Clinton

    Anders Rasmussen (NATO) - Mentioned that he had concerns for the future of NATO under Trump.

    Manuel Valls (France) - Prime Minister of France said that Trump only stokes hatred. Which of course he knew would be played by our press to influence the populace.

    Sigmar Gabriel (Germany) - German economic minister. Said that Trump is a threat to economic development.

    Dar Al Ifta (Egypt) - Official religious state body for Egypt. Printed an article saying that Trump's rhetoric towards Muslims was dangerous to the American community.

    Let us not forget the hacking and the leaks targeted at Mr. Trump. None of them were ever investigated, which is strange considering that the tax return was an actual federal document that was hacked or leaked while the DNC according to their very own statements was a private entity. They could have been hacked by foreign entities or the leaks could have been arranged or paid for using foreign funds.

    Where is the outrage at these foreign countries trying to tilt the elections towards Clinton?
     
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    The outrage from the left is that their darling "it was her turn" candidate got sacked by Americans. That she spent and wasted 5 times the amount of money her opponent did in the general election, was coronated by the corrupt party machine in the primaries that stacked the deck against her opponent with super delegates, all why shunning honest dialogue and questions from the press for months during the final campaign. They even fed her the debate questions ahead of time and she still barely managed to keep her head above water. Their biggest whine, and this is a doozy, is that another government exposed the ruthless and vicious campaign tactics.

    No matter that the information was true and correct, in fact Clinton never refuted it. We'll never know who the messenger was, more than likely an insider. But they choose to attack a straw messenger (if in fact that is even true), rather than appreciate the truthfulness of the message. Instead of being grateful for corruption exposed they only tasted sour grapes.:alcoholic:
     
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    WOW! Well, with all those different officials of all those different countries speaking out against trump, they can't all be wrong! So I guess trump really was a particularly bad choice. And this plays into the notion of him being "illegitimate" and dangerous.

    The right spent 8 years whining that Obama was an embarrassment and not smart enough and blah blah blah. Just wait 6 months. Trump will be the most embarrassing ever due to his inability to articulate a decent speech among other things.
     
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    A difference between a foreign leader expressing who they want to work with, another thing to actively do something about it.
     
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    Very well said.

    It's telling how OK left-wing Democrats were with foreign powers influencing the decisions of Americans for Clinton.
     
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    A rumor.


    No, but nice spin. The actual objection to that is that a foreign power hacked US politics.


    That's right. No matter. Hacking our politics by a foreign power is not permissible. It must be thoroughly investigated and action must be taken.


    No, 17 different intelligence agencies agree that it was Russia. This is very basic. Why don't you know this even now?


    Your exceptionally poor judgements about this makes you a highly questionable source of useful opinions on it.
     
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    Americans want a leader and results at the moment, not another teleprompter reading "orator" like Obama who has the ability to send thrills up the legs of certain people.
     
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    How? When? Where?
     
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    About that many intelligence agencies thought Iraq had WMD's as well. How'd that turn out?

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    Read the OP. All outside influences that left-wing Democrats didn't spend a second complaining about. Gee, I wonder why?
     
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    speaking out against him is actively doing something about it. It is attempting to influence US voters as they get played in the us news.
     
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    yet only the russian hacks were investigated. The motive and identity of the hackers/leakers who gave trump's tax returns which is an actual federal document was not. The motive of these foreign officials in influencing our elections were not examined either.
     
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    I'd say the most telling indictment of ms Clinton is the fact that after losing, her foundation is failing to make it's payroll. Laying folks off as the "donations" slack off. Who believes now that giving her money actually leads to the ear of anyone important?

    Good riddance..
     
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    Interestingly though, as the Clinton Global Initiative folds up and closes their doors...... what happens to all the money? If I were a Clinton, I'd be watching my back. A few of her biggest foreign investors must be more than slightly peeved. Very big give, no got to speak of.
     
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    nah they got it back already.
     
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    now list the ones that committed crimes for Trump..... that is the real issue.. hacking is a crime

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    How so? Link please
     
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    You are here implying what is essentially little more than one of those lies Republicans like to tell themselves. Everyone in the know knew there were no weapons of mass destruction. It was only the gaggle of the gullible that believed that there were weapons of mass destruction.


    When Colin Powell gave his speech at the UN, thousand of people across the country cried foul, his case being so unbelievable. Unfortunately there were millions of the gullible who readily accepted it. Just think. If it wasn't for Colin Powell being Bush's patsy he could have been the first black president.
     
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    uranium deal etc etc. she was sec state for the longest time and the clinton faction had all the power in the DNC. The payments were part payment of old relationships and payment for new services. The "investors" understand that.
     
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    ahh interesting. SO you are not against foreign governments interfering with the election. But rather you are against doing illegal things to interfere with the elections. If US citizens did illegal things such as colluding with the media for example or burning down a black church and then painting vote trump on it would that be as bad?
     
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    The difference is what the truth revealed in Clinton's emails and the DNC emails is there were from the mouth of Hilary Clinton and those in the DNC. Words by others condemning or praising either Clinton or Trump are just politics for their own agendas.
     
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    We MUST impose the harshest possible sanctions against each of those countries and surround them with nuclear tipped missiles, military bases, troops and weapons systems. Congress should explore if ANYONE in the Clinton camp communicated with anyone in any of those governments too.
     
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    Yeah, no.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

    Democrats were "in the know" the same way they knew there would be a mortgage bubble collapse. It's just a huge coincidence that the people who knew it all along tend to speak up long after the fact.

    And our intelligence agencies, as well as several foreign intelligence agencies, believed at the time that Iraq had WMD's. That's not debatable unless you're willing to ignore facts to push a progressive narrative. And you wouldn't do that. I have faith.
     
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    If Putin committed crimes, by all means punish him. But foreign interference and the attempts by foreign leaders to influence the outcome of the AMERICAN ELECTIONS were disproportionately in Hillary's favor, which makes this entire liberal bruhaha about elections compromised by foreign involvment a disingenuous and utterly hypocritical freak show.
     
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    Point taken, but I'm certain that is not all of it.
     
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    What the people from these countries were really doing were warning Americans what this retard really is.

    Of course, Trumpsters failed the heed the warning.
     

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