Get your FACTS here about Muslims

Discussion in 'Ethnic & Religious Conflicts' started by Robert, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People, I implore you to get educated about the Muslims.

    I hear it now. Democrats will explain to me all about good Muslims. But notice they NEVER name a single good Muslim.

    Let that sink in.

    They brag we have good Muslims.

    OK, well and good. Name them?

    If there are that many, surely you can give me a list of the top ten good Muslims?

    Okay, now you will see a not long video. This gives you the history of Muslims.

    You will learn mind blowing things.

    Are you ready for it?

    By the way, in this video, you will learn why Muslims can put their hand on the Koran and lie to you and not suffer due to his religion.

    Trump understands this far better than Obama does. You will see how Iran outfoxed Obama. You will see what the big deal was when the Ayatollah took power.

    [video=youtube;Uj8J62BqRMo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj8J62BqRMo[/video]
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The vast majority of Muslims are just like the vast majority of people in general, neither especially good or especially bad, which is why we don’t know their names. Most are just getting on with doing their jobs, raising their families and living their lives. In the context of your thread and in comparison to the general population, isn’t that “good” enough?

    This article lists some notable American Muslims. A couple come with some political baggage but I don’t think any could be called fundamentally bad and several certainly come across as good people; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-famous-muslims-us-history
     
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    My neighbors and their families.

    Robert needs to stop the bigotry
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I gave tried and tried fir 60 years to name a "good" Russian but there just aren't any. Then what happens but thecLiar In Chief gets elected and he lies as he is trying to convince me Turd Ball Putin is somehow a "good" Russian.
     
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    Bigotry on either side is abhorrent.
    I work with MANY "good Russians"...which does not excuse Putin's dictatorship in the least
     
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    Who can watch OP's video and not realize that Islam was founded on violence and hate? I don't even care about Mohammad's taste for marrying little girls but without a doubt he created a sicko religion which is long overdue for reformation.
     
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    The OP is better off just saying he doesn't like Muslims. It'll save us all the trouble of having to watch random YouTube videos that are passed off as facts.
     
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    OP is saying that there are few if any good, peaceful Muslims.

    This is the essense of bigotry, of prejudice.

    Its like saying most or all Jews are bad. Which of course would not be tolerated in the USA.

    But somehow, its ok to attack ALL Muslims as being "bad".

    Sad, sad times for the USA.




    and as an FYI, my office has a black Muslim convert several years ago.

    He was in a leadership position. Vietnam Veteran.

    All of my co-workers, even the bigoted ones, could not help but say what a great guy he was. Generous and great.

    He died a few years ago from cancer. The flow of condolences from other staff was amazing, even though they knew I never met him. He had a memorial service at my agency headquarters in Manhattan.

    I wish I had met him.
     
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    I'm all for killing bad guys and calling terrorism what it is. But if you think all Muslims are bad people and subscribe to terrorist beliefs, I don't know what to do for you. You're likely incorrigible, so why bother telling you my Muslim father in law is the greatest man I've ever known in my life? No one you know comes close to having his character, brains, love, wisdom...I swear to God you don't even know anyone on his level. I don't. More people call him a friend than call you a friend. I guarantee it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and if someone says "all Jews are bad", they get attacked for being anti-Semites.

    but its ok to attack all Muslims. Thanks to Trump.
     
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    This is hate speech. It's is lies . Flame baiting .How is this tolerated here?
     
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    The left, in response to 9/11, in their own cowardly way, put normalizing and Americanizing Islam on their agenda. This is the backlash.
     
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    Let's flip the script and add other groups of people into the mix to see if it makes sense or not, for instance:

    "There are few, if any good Christians because they all blow up abortion clinics."
    "There are few, if any good Jews because they all hoard money."
    "There are few, if any good Catholics because they all rape children."
    "There are few, if any good white people because they're all racist scumbags."
    "There are few, if any good black people because they're all ghetto gangbangers."
    "There are few, if any good Mexicans because they are hop borders illegally."
    "There are few, if any good Native Americans because they're all drunken casino owners."

    See how stupid that train of thought is?
     
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    After 15 years of research I was able to come up with one good Muslim, Hi Jolly. (Hadji Ali) But he died in 1902.

    https://armyhistory.org/the-u-s-armys-camel-corps-experiment/
     
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    Many Jews during and before WW2 were Communists and had powerful positions in the USSR and many national Communist parties.

    Hitler used this to justify hatred against ALL Jews, even though not all Jews were Communists, but a good number were.

    Hitler used the same logic of the OP, that's its ok to hate and punish an entire people, due to the actions of a minority.

    So, does the OP think the Holocaust was ok, that the Nuremberg Laws were ok, since many Jews were in fact Communists?
     
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    Robert starts many hate Muslims threads.
     
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    Keith Ellison.
     
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    I have many nice Muslim co-workers.
     
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    Exactly how many Muslims have you met in a personal capacity and specifically what made you think they were bad?
     
  21. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    im sure the number is a big fat ZERO


    bigotry against Muslims is just as bad as bigotry against Jews, but due to Trump its now ok to attack Muslims.
     
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    hating ALL Muslims due to the acts of a few, is like justifying the Holocaust since many Jews were Communists.

    they are both bigoted and wrong.
     
  23. Robert

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    I have personally been acquainted with and on a first name basis with a good dozen. I have met at least 100 but those include people like customers where I appraised their home. As to whom made me see them as bad, several of the Iranians over a long time frame gave me the idea they are not honest humans. Most of them don't get into a comfort zone to really lay it all out.

    There is nothing wrong with the Muslim faithful lying to a person and having approval.

    It seems the video has been ignored by too many who make me the poster the focus.

    If I only met one decent Muslim, it would make me happy.

    Sia was a Muslim. Sia came from Iran. He and I spent many hours chatting. I met the former head of Iran's police communication and I believe he was a very honest man.

    My thing is not that 100 percent of Mulims are rotten lousy people.

    My thing is for you guys to watch that video where a real expert explains things to you.

    Sia who no longer is a Muslim became Catholic.

    I had the chance to ask him directly.

    "Sia, is that a violent faith?"

    Sia who holds a degree from a university in Iran looked back and told me that definitely it is.

    Sia for what it is worth is more the expert than I am.

    I have watched videos that allege that faith is a cult.

    I suspect just about alll faiths can be called a cult by one or more people. But a lot is said by who told me the list of the top ten Muslims.

    When I see all posts, I hope to have at least the outline of that list of top notch Muslims.
     
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    You're not going to change many minds man, so don't try and plead with them to see reason. Only a few of them are naïve enough to believe that Islam can coexist peacefully in the West. The ones pushing really hard for Islamic immigration already know the truth that you are spreading. They don't care. They've weighed this out long ago and determined that a reasonable amount of jihad terrorism and Western death is worth the left-wing political benefit.
     
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    saying all 1 billion Muslims are bad, due to your bad experiences with a few Irainians, is pure bigotry.

    its like saying all Jews should be gassed because of a few Jewish thieves.and Communists
     

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