Ben Carson unqualified to run HUD

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    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...against-black-cabinet-nominee/comment-page-2/ Kayleigh Mckenany got picked apart, down to the bone, and humiliated after the panel schooled her on Ben Carsons HUD qualifications. Are these folks like Mckenany for real? Ben Carson himself said he was not qualified to run HUD, yet, the Trump clown party want to put Carson in there anyway. Go figure! What are they thinking? It's like the panel said; it's like putting a guy in there to fly a jumbo jet who's never flown a plane before full of passengers. It's insane. Folks, the Trump administration has decided to put "Team Idiocracy" in the drivers seat. Enjoy the ride; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Leyn-oS5ASI
     
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    And Obammy was unqualified to be president.
     
  3. Lil Mike

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    Carson isn't qualified. Between Carson and Rick Perry, those are the two worse picks Trump has made. As far as Carson goes, I'm assuming he's paying back a friend, and hopes he won't stay in the position more than a year or so. But with Perry, I suspect that is a pure troll. Perry was an anti-Trumper during the campaign, and I'm guessing Trump offered the position to Perry (the head of an agency that Perry vowed to eliminate) just as a troll in the same way he dangled Secretary of State before Romney and had him grovel before passing him by. I think Perry is fired within a year.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not so quick to say Carson isn't qualified for HUD. He did after all get out of the projects and prosper. That seems like a better pick then someone who's "qualified" on paper but has no real life experience to relate to such as Carson does in this case.

    The goal of welfare/public housing is get the recipient on their feet and not relying on tax payers for their housing, the quicker the better.

    As far as Perry and wanting to originally eliminate the Energy Dept. that makes sense (personal feeling of Perry one way or another aside) since "eliminating" any agency is a fantasy unfortunately. But being able to cut them down a size or two is a hopeful reality.

    We shall see. I hope that useless departments that are crawling with cube dwelling federal workers that don't provide a single service/product that any private person would pay them for are given a dose of reality. That may seem harsh, but it is what it is.
     
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    Unlike those the hate-filled obstructionist Left prefer to rule the inner city hellholes they have crafted to hold blacks in squalor, worse in some ways than the Democrat plantations, Dr. Ben Carson has actually LIVED in HUD Housing!

    Dr. Ben Carson will his medical lens to the job — pushing for quality housing for low-income people and improving people’s health conditions within public housing.

    “Not having access to safe, affordable housing is one of the least healthy situations you can find yourself in,” said Mariana Arcaya, an assistant professor of urban planning and public health at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

    Research has shown that lacking stable housing is related to a variety of health outcomes, such as higher levels of depression and anxiety, more illicit drug use, and greater use of emergency departments at hospitals.

    http://www.rootcausecoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/White-Paper-Housing-and-Health.pdf

    “For people who move from place to place, it’s very difficult to have a regular source of health care,” said Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association. “We know that a regular source of health care is very important to having good health.”

    And being sick makes it difficult to find better housing, Benjamin said. Bad health and bad housing go hand in hand — and there are some things that the federal agency can do to help.

    HUD funds housing developments and neighborhood projects across the country. It gives money to state and local organizations that build and subsidize housing, and makes policies for public housing that impact the health of residents and communities, such as setting the acceptable levels of lead in the blood of children living in federally subsidized homes.

    Where money is invested in housing, and what kind of housing is built, both have large health impacts, scholars say.

    “The location of housing itself is the determinant of all the neighborhood factors you’re exposed to, and those have implications for health,” Arcaya said. For instance, where you live determines where you go to school, where you buy your food, where you can exercise in public parks, and whether or not you’re close to a doctor’s office.

    The quality of your home can also have a direct impact on your health. Dr. Megan Sandel, a pediatrician at Boston Medical Center, recalled an 8-year-old girl she saw in the intensive care unit 20 years ago. The child had terrible asthma, and Sandel couldn’t figure out why — until the family told her that they recently got a cat. The child was allergic to cats, but the family bought one anyway to get rid of a mouse in the child’s bed.

    “The prescription I wanted to write was for a healthy home,” Sandel said. The bad house, she said, was “was ultimately the underlying illness. Asthma was the symptom of the disease.”

    Arcaya said that she hopes a physician in the secretary’s seat would take medical-related housing concerns more seriously. But that she’s concerned about Carson’s critiques of some HUD programs, including his characterization of certain agency programs as “social engineering.”

    “These government-engineered attempts to legislate racial equality create consequences that often make matters worse,” he wrote in the July 2015 op-ed.

    Carson’s high profile could benefit the agency. Sandel said that HUD is often a “forgotten department” that doesn’t get enough attention, and that Carson’s nomination opens up “a critical window of opportunity to potentially have the ear of the president.”

    Benjamin offered Carson a suggestion — he would like to see HUD release an annual report about the health of people living in public housing. This would allow the agency to gauge its success in part by how the health of public housing residents changes year to year.

    Making Our Inner Cities Great Again!

    https://www.statnews.com/2016/12/06/ben-carson-medical-hud/

    The Left Wing Obstructionist Dead-Ender are going to lose. Dr. Ben Carson is a magnificient choice, and he WILL be confirmed!

    Churchill's Bust Returned!
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  6. SillyAmerican

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    Yes, but nobody is interested in going there...
     
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    Ben Carson did not live in public housing - CNNPolitics.com - CNN.com



    www.cnn.com/2016/12/06/politics/carson-public-housing/



    Dec 6, 2016 - Ben Carson HUD hearing qualifications_00000000.jpg .... Williams, said Monday that Mr. Carson had never lived in government housing.".


    Turns Out Ben Carson Never Lived in Public Housing



    nymag.com/.../turns-out-ben-carson-never-lived-in-public-housing.html



    Dec 6, 2016 - The argument that Ben Carson is qualified to serve as HUD Secretary because he once lived in public housing never made any sense.


    Trump HUD pick Ben Carson didn't live in public housing after all | Mic



    https://mic.com/.../trump-hud-pick-ben-carson-didn-t-live-in-public-hou...



    Dec 5, 2016 - Ben Carson is first HUD Sec to have actually lived in gov't housing. ... Williams tld me earlier, [MENTION=3512]real[/MENTION]BenCarson never lived in pub housing.


    Ben
     
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    Carson may be able to provide climate control. Currently, HUD is providing incentives to builders of multiple housing units across the country to "build in" accommodation for low income dwellers. There is a huge philosophical war between the old way of building housing dedicated to low-income/no-income residents that later turn into the hell-holes, vs integrating those residents into regular housing and having the cost of housing split between taxpayers and other renters in the building. Of course, this is not welcomed by the regular renters who have to pay a higher rent.

    It's highly charged, and of course accusations of "racism" shuts down any discussion. So Carson may have his own ideas about how to help people struggling with housing as it is the environment he grew up in and successfully escaped from. That's the ultimate goal, after all... not low-income housing but escape from the need for low-income housing.

    He is a brilliant man. I wish him success!
     
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    Dr. Carson is arguably one of the most intelligent men in America. His bonafides are pretty much unimpeachable. The fact that he pulled himself up by the bootstraps, out of abject poverty and into a scenario of success, should present him as a solid candidate for just about any position America could hand him.

    It would appear that, rather than looking at the man based on his accomplishments and as Dr. King hoped at the content of his character, he is being viewed through the lense of political division that sours nearly all of our interactions.

    Say what you will, but Dr. Carson is highly qualified and has the life history to make his service to HUD quite successful. He also has the background to be able to commiserate with those whom his agency is to assist.
     
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    Yes he appointed a woman to head the dept of education who never attended a school in her life. Born a billionaire she is intent upon infusing mythology into the curriculum and refunding public education. She I'll no doubt do so much damage that the next generation will be even dumber than the current one . Many schools will close. Many colleges will close. Online school will become the norm. So not only will they know nothing , they won't even learn how to interact with their peers.
    He has a guy running the EPA who hates the EPA.
    They are going to sell off our national parks for oil exploration.
    Ben Carson is a doctor. He is not an executive. He does not know how to run a business, he does not know how government works. He does not even seem to be a person who cares much about his fellow man. HUD is about caring for children trapped in poverty.
    People get trapped in poverty for a thousand reasons. You can chose to blame them for it or you can chose to help them. You cannot do both. Not everyone can be successful in life. Many people are disabled. Many people simply never have a chance. For some it's about survival not success. The HUD agency has along history of corruption. The W administration destroyed it and used it as a way to literally steal a trillion dollars . Expect the drump to do the same. I think everything the drump does is to enrich h himself. I don't think he cares at all about anyone but himself. That is what a narcissist does.
     
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    Carson ran a department in a hospital, but I'm not sure that's equivalent to the executive experience usually needed to run a large organization like HUD. On the other hand, he's very bright so he may surprise me.

    I don't expect Perry to surprise me however. If he does, I'll be....well I guess I'll be surprised by that too. In any case, we'll see.
     
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    Carson is much more qualified to run HUD than Rick ( real name Ricardo Suarez Perez ) Perry is qualified to run the Energy Depot...since Moron Boy Perry didn't realize that the Dept of Energy was in charge of nuclear energy.
     
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    Like a neurosurgeon knows how to handle housing urban development.....

    Welcome to Deplorable Trump's America everybody, where the clueless are granted special powers.
     
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    The quality of public housing is not a problem. I have observed a good deal of public houing close up, and in most areas IMO the quality often equals or even exceeds that of the housing in the surrounding communities.

    The problem with public housing is the questionable people--or their relatives--that are let in who then prey on the rest. Standards should be set so that safety in public housing for younger people matches that of public housing for the elderly, which for some reason has been kept safer.

    Few would oppose public housing in more accessible areas if this were done.
     
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    Amazing isn't it? Ben Carson NEVER lived in HUD housing.
     
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    Don't start blaming closed colleges on Trump. Enrollment is way down in colleges who allowed all that progressive nonsense be acted out by students. No one spends tuition money on such a ridiculous waste of time and energy. Colleges are already feeling it in the pocketbook.
     
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    I agree wholeheartedly. REAL poverty means no shelter, no protection from heat or freezing temperatures, no food, no shoes, and surrounded by squalor and filth. I have seen families, all three generations living in a 20x20-foot space with a cement floor. The floor was scrubbed to shining, the kids were wearing clean, pressed clothing and were sent to school everyday and admonished to study hard. Meals were served and the family members acted in loving support of one another.

    We don't have real poverty in the US. Most low-income housing far exceeds poverty levels when it is newly built. The poverty is in the hearts and minds of the inhabitants.
     
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    Ben Carson never lived in HUD housing...... Facts are still important.
     
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    Sorry a brilliant mind and an outside the box thinker is infinitely preferable to some career bureaucrat who is, more than likely, part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
     
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    A lot of low income housing/apartments (HUD) are pre-existing.. HUD demands they be brought up to pristine condition and pays market rates.. . while the renter pays according to income. In some jurisdictions they are very strict about maintenance.
     
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    The name of that fallacy is "false dichotomy".

    We are absolutely NOT limited to Carson or someone who is worse.
     
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    Sorry anyone the left is likely to think better would almost certainly be worse. Out side the box thinkers are rare in government and the longer they've been in government the more likely they are to have had any desire or for that matter ability to make the sort of whole sale changes necessary to change a system that for the vast majority, merely traps them in a vicious cycle of poverty, government dependence, drug dependence, and jail, removed from them.
     
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    Thank God the true mythologist are leaving the WH. Now maybe people can figure out which bathroom to use.
     
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    Never attended a school? I would sure like to see you substantiate that claim. You seem to be infusing quite a bit of mythology into this line of commentary. You also seem to be taking a shot at home schooling here with the standard socialization trope.

    Which parks would those be?

    How about substantiating this claim? Dr. Carson is a hugely successful neurosurgeon who came up from the exact circumstances that the HUD program was intended to address.

    There are a lot of unsubstantiated comments in this one. Do you have any credible sources for these allegations?
     
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    What a racist position. The left hates any and all black Conservatives
     

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