One of the saddest things in our polarized society are ugly instances of public intolerance. While this could happen on either side of the political spectrum, this particular "Madonna Moment" is starred by one of our friends on the left. At least sanity prevailed and the ending is appropriate: http://www.chicksontheright.com/wre...tm_source=FED&utm_medium=FED&utm_campaign=FED I just hope that all this insanity will eventually end. But logic says it ain't going to happen.
Excellent job removing her. Very professional. Even better to see people around him, who dont agree with his views, stand up and defend him by assisting to get her removed from the plane. Wish more people were like that.
I am sure Madonna had no malicious intent. It's no worse than Trump saying he could shoot up 5th Avenue. I believe that the amount of Secret Service needs to be reduced for the Trump's , does that mean I want him assassinated? Of course not.
My reference to Madonna had nothing to do with her rants about blowing up the White House. It was the similarities to Madonna's overall loss of emotional control and separation from reality. BTW, malicious intent or not, rational human beings don't publicly make comments about leveling the WH under any context. And there isn't any reasonable equivalency to Trump's statements about 5th Avenue. Madonna again proves that the entertainment world lives in a bubble bouncing uncontrollably outside the real world. What struck me about this woman on the plane was the unreasonable anger and venom she held. She tried to create a progressive "safe space" around her seat, and otherwise lost all level of human civility. Egged on by progressive leftist leaders who refuse to call out bad behavior, a complicit MSM, and entitled Madonna types who lack all semblance of class, I'm wondering if we're entering a new era where we're going to see more of this stuff.
Years of beta conditioning. One of the saddest displays of masculinity I've ever seen. He should have stayed on the flight and let her spend the night in jail.
awesome! One of the reasons i moved from democrat to republican (for now at least), was that liberals were becoming so hypocritical and it was beginning to induce nausea for me. They claim they are the party of inclusion and unity but preach division (wall street is evil, rich are bad, white are racists, cops are bad etc..) and shut down speech all over the Country with riots and protests. They pretty much put Trump in power because they pushed many like me out... temporarily at least. In my own immediate family, there are members of the left which will not allow any of us to express any support for Trump, the reaction is aggressive and confrontational, pretty much we are all caused of being bad people. You see this more on the left than right...
I didn't know passion was being called, "loss of emotional control and separation from reality." Actually, there is. If average folk talked about shooting up 5th avenue, they would be arrested. But, because Deplorable Trump says it, that makes it okay. What you are venting in your original post is the same thing. If average folk talked the way Madonna did, they would be arrested. So, yes. There is reasonable equivalency to Trump's statements about 5th Avenue. I cannot take a statement about the MSM seriously, because that and the fake news excuse, conservatives are using to shift the blame and scapegoat.
There is intellectual passion expressed with dignity, and then there is loss of emotional control and separation from reality. Both Madonna and the Crazy lady on the plane were an undeniable expression of the latter. There isn't a lot to debate here. Now, look at exactly what Trump said: "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters" He was using hyperbole, very effectively I might add, to illustrate that he can be ridiculous to the Nth degree and not lose potential voters. Unlike Madonna, he made no reference to actually thinking about performing a violent act. You're really reaching for a connection. If you understand the nuances of language, there is no reasonable equivalence. None.
There's a saying that what you say reveals how you think. So, hyperhole or not, by making this statement, Trump was indeed thinking of performing a violent act, if we are to follow that saying that applies to human nature. What Madonna said was quite extreme, I'm not downplaying that, but as extreme and mind-blowing as it may be, it was a more extremist version of hyperhole (and I know the definition of hyperhole). Violence is violence, and both Madonna and Trump's statements were toying with violence.
Again, the whole focus, the entire focus, of Trump's statement was that no matter what he says or does, he doesn't lose votes. You can play amateur psychologist and project that deep down in the evil recesses of his soul, he has a death wish to walk down 5th Avenue and randomly blow someone away. But I think any reasonable person who can put partisan ideology aside would reject this straight out. I will say that Trump's attempt at hyperbole was stupid and the wrong choice of words. In a world where raw emotion overrides intellect and understanding of language, people will run with the snippet instead of absorbing context. There were many other effective examples of hyperbole he could have used. Just plain bad judgement on Trump's part. On the other hand when Madonna says "Yes, I'm angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House", there is only one message projected here -- emotional instability and violent thoughts. There was no broader point. I in no way believe she would carry through on her statements. It was simply another unbalanced "Madonna moment" when she said it. It was that same level of emotional unbalance we saw in that lady on the plane. If you're going legitimize that by labeling it "passion", go to the skid row of any major city and witness the "passion" of crazy people ranting to nobody in-particular on the streets. Things might make more sense.
I found a link that has 3 different videos of the event: http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/...-berating-trump-supporter-in-viral-video.html Video #3 is really interesting, where the woman is being escorted off the plane by the police. The final frame shows the old hag flipping the bird to passengers in a final leftist exhibition of "passion". Tolerance and respect for opposing views is such a wonderful thing.
